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Posted: 9/25/2012 8:32:38 PM EDT
and some other models as well.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=49898.0 List of discontinued CZ products for 2013:
01104 – CZ 75 B cal. 9mm Luger, dual tone – 10rd magazine 91104 – CZ 75 B cal. 9mm Luger, dual tone – hi cap 01105 – CZ 75 B cal. 9mm Luger, satin nickel – 10rd magazine 91105 – CZ 75 B cal. 9mm Luger, satin nickel- hi cap 01122 – CZ 75 B cal. 40 S&W, dual tone 01123 – CZ 75 B cal. 40 S&W, satin nickel 01192 – CZ 75 Compact cal. 9mm Luger, dual tone – 10rd magazines 91192 – CZ 75 Compact cal. 9mm Luger, dual tone – hi cap 01193 – CZ 75 Compact cal. 9mm Luger, satin nickel – 10rd magazines 91193 – CZ 75 Compact cal. 9mm Luger, satin nickel – hi cap 01212 – CZ 85 Combat cal. 9mm Luger – dual tone – 10rd magazines 91212 – CZ 85 Combat cal. 9mm Luger – dual tone – hi cap 01213 - CZ 85 Combat cal. 9mm Luger – satin nickel – 10rd magazines 91213 - CZ 85 Combat cal. 9mm Luger – satin nickel – hi cap 01301 – CZ 83 cal. .380 ACP, glossy blue – 10rd magazines 91301 – CZ 83 cal. .380 ACP, glossy blue – hi cap 01302 – CZ 83 cal. .380 ACP, satin nickel – 10rd magazines 91302 – CZ 83 cal. .380 ACP, satin nickel – hi cap 91305 – CZ 83 cal. 32 ACP, glossy blue 01401 – CZ 97 B cal. .45 ACP, black poly – will be replaced by upgraded version with aluminum grips and FO front sight 01411 01402 – CZ 97 B cal. .45 ACP, glossy blue – will be replaced by upgraded version with aluminum grips and FO front sight 01412 01406 – CZ 97 BD cal. .45 ACP, black poly – will be replaced by upgraded version with aluminum grips 01416 01601 – CZ 75 Kadet cal. 22 LR, black poly 01709 – CZ 75 Shadow T-SA cal. 9mm Luger by CZ Custom Shop – 10rd magazine 91709 - CZ 75 Shadow T-SA cal. 9mm Luger by CZ Custom Shop – hi cap 02008 – CZ 513 Basic cal. 22 LR 02072 – CZ 453 Varmint cal. 22 LR with single set trigger 02073 – CZ 453 Varming cal. 17 HMR with single set trigger 02076 – CZ 453 Varmint cal. 17 HMR with fluted bbl and single set trigger 02081 – CZ 453 American cal. 22 LR with single set trigger 02083 – CZ 453 American cal. 17 HMR with single set trigger 04171 – CZ 550 Medium cal. 300 WinMag Battue quarter rib, 5rd fixed magazine |
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Yes, but understand that they arent selling very well. Almost every online store that normally sells the 83 has them in stock.
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But why kill the Kadet? When I wanted one I had to wait a couple of months. Damn thing just runs and runs . It's one of my favorites.
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Quoted: But why kill the Kadet? When I wanted one I had to wait a couple of months. Damn thing just runs and runs . It's one of my favorites. They might just sell the top end versus the entire pistol. I don't know too many people that will spend $600+ on a centerfire much less on a .22. |
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But why kill the Kadet? When I wanted one I had to wait a couple of months. Damn thing just runs and runs . It's one of my favorites. They might just sell the top end versus the entire pistol. I don't know too many people that will spend $600+ on a centerfire much less on a .22. This. Selling a whole pistol is counter productive most of the time. |
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But why kill the Kadet? When I wanted one I had to wait a couple of months. Damn thing just runs and runs . It's one of my favorites. They might just sell the top end versus the entire pistol. I don't know too many people that will spend $600+ on a centerfire much less on a .22. This. Selling a whole pistol is counter productive most of the time. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Cheap surplus 82's killed any reason to buy a new 83 I suspect this is probably one of the reasons. I would have liked to had one in .32 ACP to go along with these two. http://home.mchsi.com/~cz75fan.mo/cz83x2.jpg It's not too late: |
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But why kill the Kadet? When I wanted one I had to wait a couple of months. Damn thing just runs and runs . It's one of my favorites. They might just sell the top end versus the entire pistol. I don't know too many people that will spend $600+ on a centerfire much less on a .22. This. Selling a whole pistol is counter productive most of the time. Well at least I have mine. |
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Did anyone else pick up an 83 in .32ACP?
I ordered one last night and now the .32s are out of stock. |
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there is a Kadet 2 now.... Yes, but that SKU number is for the full pistol. I'm not so sure that there is a Kadet 2 pistol. I think it's only a Kadet 2 adapter, intended to work with the Omega models. |
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The 83 has been in need of a revamp for years....it's a homely pistol, especially considering how nice the 75 looks. It's also kind of big for not being a 9x19 gun. I'm not sad in the least, I just hope that ceasing production will add to capacity increase of other, better models. I know that stainless guns in all metal framed models would be a big hit, not to mention an aluminum framed SP-01.
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The 83 has been in need of a revamp for years....it's a homely pistol, especially considering how nice the 75 looks. It's also kind of big for not being a 9x19 gun. I'm not sad in the least, I just hope that ceasing production will add to capacity increase of other, better models. I know that stainless guns in all metal framed models would be a big hit, not to mention an aluminum framed SP-01. Kind of agree. Sad to see it go. Still not sure which one I like better the 83 or Beretta 84. Ideally the Beretta with the CZ's function. |
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The 83 has been in need of a revamp for years....it's a homely pistol, especially considering how nice the 75 looks. It's also kind of big for not being a 9x19 gun. I'm not sad in the least, I just hope that ceasing production will add to capacity increase of other, better models. I know that stainless guns in all metal framed models would be a big hit, not to mention an aluminum framed SP-01. I wouldn't say it's large for it's caliber. Maybe in this country where 9x19 is legal to own, but for many other countries where .380 is the biggest legal pistol cartridge, there certainly would be a market for a compact size double stack handgun. But yeah I think what killed it here is $400 for a largish .380 in a country where .380 is mainly wanted in a pocket sized handgun. All the CZ 82s for half the price certainly don't help either. |
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The supply of CZ-82s is big, I think it just ended up not having economic sense to import it. That said, a cheaper version of the CZ-83 (plastic framed?) would be competitive.
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I would have loved to have had a .22LR version of an 83 with a suppressor-ready threaded barrel. I know there is the JANE conversion, never saw one in person though and I don't really expect to.
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Bummer. I always thought they were neat pistols. Not everybody wants their .380 in a little micro-sized plastic fantastic LCP.
Time to buy another CZ82 |
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Quoted: Bummer. I always thought they were neat pistols. Not everybody wants their .380 in a little micro-sized plastic fantastic LCP. Time to buy another CZ82 It looks like there's a decent amount left, I thought they had dried up. The Widener's deal with two mags and holster for $232 looks like an excellent deal. Not sure what they get for shipping though. http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000116&dir=700 http://www.jgsales.com/cz-82-czech-9x18-makarov-military-pistol,-good-to-very-good-condition,-one-mag.-c-r.-p-3050.html http://www.classicfirearms.com/c-r-eligible/cz-82-pistols http://www.allans-armory.com/aaresult.php?PageId=50 <––––excellent mag prices here for the 82/83 |
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Ooh hey thanks for those links. I actually just put through an order from Bud's. Yeah I know, I'm a sellout $249 shipped for the pistol in VG condition, 2 mags, and assorted paraphernalia. Definitely gonna have to check out Allan's Armory for those mags though...
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Quoted: Ooh hey thanks for those links. I actually just put through an order from Bud's. Yeah I know, I'm a sellout $249 shipped for the pistol in VG condition, 2 mags, and assorted paraphernalia. Definitely gonna have to check out Allan's Armory for those mags though... I picked up an 83 in .32ACP from them: |
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Ooh hey thanks for those links. I actually just put through an order from Bud's. Yeah I know, I'm a sellout $249 shipped for the pistol in VG condition, 2 mags, and assorted paraphernalia. Definitely gonna have to check out Allan's Armory for those mags though... I picked up an 83 in .32ACP from them:
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It's understandable from a practical sense. A little large and heavy for a non-9x19. But it's still a neat package of a double stacked blowback operated pistol. I've always liked the looks and feel of Beretta's M84 but I'm amazed of the stout recoil. I'm guessing it's a combination of blowback operation and lightweight alloy frame. The CZ83 has a steel frame and I find it a relatively light recoiler. The 82 chambered in 9x18 has a stouter recoil and reminds me of the 84, still not quite as stout feeling. The 83's chambered in .32 have always seemed very intriguing, a medium framed blowback pistol chambered in a relatively mild caliber, having a fifteen round magazine capacity. Now for looks, I love the appearance of the 83/82 series, large grip and small slide look very exotic to me, especially the older round trigger guard guns. I morn the passing of this classic and will value mine all the more.
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It's understandable from a practical sense. A little large and heavy for a non-9x19. But it's still a neat package of a double stacked blowback operated pistol. I've always liked the looks and feel of Beretta's M84 but I'm amazed of the stout recoil. I'm guessing it's a combination of blowback operation and lightweight alloy frame. The CZ83 has a steel frame and I find it a relatively light recoiler. The 82 chambered in 9x18 has a stouter recoil and reminds me of the 84, still not quite as stout feeling. The 83's chambered in .32 have always seemed very intriguing, a medium framed blowback pistol chambered in a relatively mild caliber, having a fifteen round magazine capacity. Now for looks, I love the appearance of the 83/82 series, large grip and small slide look very exotic to me, especially the older round trigger guard guns. I morn the passing of this classic and will value mine all the more. Well also when you think that for $180 you can get an 82 plus accessories, and then drop another 200 in grips and refinishing (On the expensive side) and for $380 or less you can have a handgun restored to whatever you want it to look like, cheaper than an 83. I could find an 83, buy and 82 and customize it to look the same for cheaper than buying new. |
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OP, thanks for the head's up on this. I have been wanting a CZ83 in 32 for some time and never pulled the trigger––but with this news, I finally did. I may buy a 380 in nickel as well before they are gone. Mags sure are expensive though––like HK expensive!
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according to an email I got from CZ CS today "It's not being produced and never will again. Sorry we sent you the wrong finish, but there's nothing we can do to assist you".
They packaged a black polycoat as a Bright Blue...so I got screwed. Thaks CZ. |
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I have a Beretta 84FS that I am very happy with, and use as a carry gun. I like the 83, but really have no need of another 84 sized .380. However, I am a fan of pretty much anything .32. I wonder if I can still dig up a .32 ACP 83?
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GRABAGUN still has them listed as bright blue--but they cannot guarantee that it will actually be bright blue after this.
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according to an email I got from CZ CS today "It's not being produced and never will again. Sorry we sent you the wrong finish, but there's nothing we can do to assist you". They packaged a black polycoat as a Bright Blue...so I got screwed. Thaks CZ. I have two of them, been thinking about selling one. Let me know if you're interested. |
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An update:
I questioned CZ on their lack of willingness to provide better CS in this instance, and the rep actually agreed and sent me a fREE mgazine! WOW! Now I am going to buy nother CZ, maybe a rifle. |
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An update: I questioned CZ on their lack of willingness to provide better CS in this instance, and the rep actually agreed and sent me a fREE mgazine! WOW! Now I am going to buy nother CZ, maybe a rifle. CZ USA seems to try to give good customer service, sometimes they're a little short; this time they stepped up. Thanks for the update. |
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Over the years that I have owned CZ's their service has been as good as any. As for the 83...buddy has one. The thing is a good piece but when you put it next to my 75 P-01 I can see why they would drop it. The P-01 is about the same size, its lighter, its real 9mm and not the 9mm Kurtz (9mm Browning...or .380 as you know it). The 83 is just an older model that has newer guns out to take its place. I would imagine it uses up production capacity for a pistol that frankly is not a big seller...despite a loyal following from some. I have looked at them but never could see the money as the P-01 matched it in size but with the power advantage.
As for the Kadet: One expensive .22 pistol! And, the Kadet is a .22 and nothing more. If you buy a 75 and a Kadet Kit you can change back and forth. I have a Kadet kit and love it, other than hard to get and expensive magazines. I have a new 75 with the Omega trigger and guess what....my "Kadet 1" will work with it with a very minute adjustment. So, I can use my Kadet upper on both my P-01 and my 75 Omega....I am a happy camper all the way around. |
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Saw two 83's at the show yesterday - I did not know they were discontinued. I have two 82's and really love the feel. Dang.
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