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Posted: 5/5/2005 2:00:07 PM EDT
[#1]
Holy crap, Batman!
Are you OK? First supicion would be bad ammo. Maybe overcharged load blows up, or weak load leaves the bullet in the barrel then the next load hits the obstruction. Did the preceeding round sound/feel different? |
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Posted: 5/5/2005 2:15:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Nope never have.
Now let me make sure I understand, you bought a USED Kimber that some UNKNOWN plummer CUSTOMIZED and you think that Kimber should take care of the problem?  Who'd you purchase the Kimber from? An individual or gunshop? That would be my starting point, provided that it wasn't an ammunition malfunction as Homer has suggested. Can you post PICS???????????????????? |
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Posted: 5/5/2005 3:02:10 PM EDT
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Thanks for your responses! I'm fine although if I wasn't wearing my eye protection I'd be missing an eye. Here's one of the photo. Sorry it's pretty crappy (camera phone) but since I was at a gun shop when this happened they took my info and sent it to Kimber since the barrel has not been touched.
 Notice the ammo that was used in the background... |
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Posted: 5/5/2005 3:07:54 PM EDT
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Thanks for the pic but it's a little hard to make out much of the detail.
From what I can see it looks like you may have had a squib load leave a bullet at the muzzle. Most likely your relief for the damage will have to come from Winchester. |
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Posted: 5/5/2005 3:09:50 PM EDT
[#5]
The round prior to the barrel buster went through fine... forgot to respond earlier..
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Posted: 5/6/2005 7:57:44 AM EDT
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Hmm.... got some of the ammo left to look at?
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Posted: 5/6/2005 8:14:54 AM EDT
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Was this the Win White box 100 round value pk from WalMart? I found these four deeply seated rounds in a box during my IDPA match a few nights ago. None were ever loaded into the gun and 1 was loaded in a mag, and before inserted the next round I noticed the prior one was WAY too short. I've contaced Winchester customer service with a WTF! Luckily I saw them before shooting them in my SA 1911 Loaded, I'm certain it would have blown up. Only lot number I can find on the box is W A A1 inside of one of the large flaps on the box. The two rounds furthest left are normal.  On a good note, I shot the match 3 times and placed: 1st place SSP SS (w/G17) 2nd place ESP UN (w/CZ85 Combat) 2nd place CDP SS (SA 1911 Loaded) |
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Posted: 5/6/2005 8:22:46 AM EDT
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gotm4 - good catch man! Geeze, that ammo is AWEFUL
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Posted: 5/6/2005 8:48:56 AM EDT
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 That is some terrible ammo! It looks just as bad as the first four rounds I ever reloaded. I had my seating die set way too deeply. If they were never even chambered, then it can't be a setback issue. That's just poor quality control. Glad to see nobody was hurt in either incident. It's stuff like this that makes me glad I reload and check every round with a caliper for proper overall length. MJD
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Posted: 5/6/2005 11:14:28 AM EDT
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whoa! Guaranteed that ammo will NEVER go through ANY of my guns again! I may just have to get into reloading! I swear this whole barrel blowing up on me has got me thinking of what to say to Winchester! I'm sure I'm going to get my Kimber back from the factory and have them say it was the ammo, then I'll send a not so nice message to Winchester. URGH... what a week...
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Posted: 5/6/2005 3:02:23 PM EDT
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Get Kimber and Wincheaster involved.
They will work something out between them I'm sure. Esp if there was not a squib load before it exploded. |
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Posted: 5/8/2005 5:55:23 PM EDT
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+1 Glad you're o.k. Sucks about your Kimber. 
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Posted: 5/9/2005 10:00:25 AM EDT
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A split barrel is almost always due to a bore obstruction of some sort. Like SGB, it looks to me like there was an obstruction of some sort at or near the muzzle. A case letting go will usually vent down the mag well, blowing out the mag and often splitting the grips as well. Were you able to find the empty case of the round fired when this happened? Did you, perhaps have a malfunction that you cleared manually immediately prior to this happening? Were you shooting more than one caliber of handgun that night? In particular, were you, or anyone else with you shooting a .40 also?
Is the entire barrel split from the chamber forward or just part of it...maybe toward the muzzle? I am not accusing you of not telling the truth, please realize that, I just know from experience that things can get fuzzy in our memory when something like this happens. The event itself sort of makes whatever preceeded it unimportant to the memory, but often the preceeding event may be the cause. If you still have the ammo you were using do NOT get rid of it! For sure, WW will want to take a look at it. Good Luck, and I am glad you were not injured. |
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Posted: 5/9/2005 5:03:34 PM EDT
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I've seen something like that happen with a M1A. The bullet jammed in the barrel and the gases had no where to go but threw the mag. The metal plate blew out the bottom and went into the bench. It was a load bang and then I heard an "Oh Shit!"
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Posted: 5/11/2005 9:26:49 AM EDT
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Well, I went through the box of Winchester FMJ's one by one and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I did send Winchester a "quick" email about the issue and will see what Kimber has to say about the issue and if was the ammo or gun. I have full trust in Kimber and would hate to just throw the money away I spent on the pistol.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 9:36:43 AM EDT
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I launched a double charge out of my Kimber Classic series I behind a 230 gr. roundnose. Hellava Recoil and nice muzzle flash. No worse for wear, Many, Many rounds since then been down that pipe. Love that Gun!
Keep us posted on this. Are you sure on, NO barrel obstruct? |
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Posted: 5/11/2005 9:46:37 AM EDT
[#17]
 Here's another shot of my dead Kimber
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Posted: 5/11/2005 10:06:39 AM EDT
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I'm nearly possitive there was no obstruct. I shot four rounds. The first three were in my typical 3" grouping  then POW!!! everything went to hell!
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Posted: 5/11/2005 4:22:08 PM EDT
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I have seen this. I also saw the recoil spring was under 6" long and the split barrel was leaded up pretty good.
My most gracious guess is that someone should have serviced that pistol, at least every couple thousand rounds! My less gracious guess is that the 'match' guns Kimber sells have better barrels than the others. Along with all the other parts falures, I am not impressed with these guns. I have a series I gun with thier stainless match barrel. I shoot it but would not carry it. |
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Posted: 6/13/2005 3:58:15 PM EDT
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www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=14&t=18042&page=1 Well it looks as though it's not just a Kimbers fault... Winchester still hasn't made anything right... urgh
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Posted: 8/14/2005 10:15:43 PM EDT
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Alright everyone... this is the letter that was passed on to me by the Gun Shop that's helping me out with my situation. I've of course edited the image to keep some of the information protected. I did however leave Winchesters contact info.
Winchester Letter to me |
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Posted: 8/15/2005 5:47:20 AM EDT
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Hmm........... I'm wondering if this is a CYA. "We'll be nice and pay for the repair, but it wasn't our fault" = "We don't want to be sued for any other damages" Well if they agree to pay, you win....so I'd be happy |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 8:06:41 PM EDT
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Well if they agree to pay, you win....so I'd be happy +1 |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 2:22:40 PM EDT
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Tag for outcome.
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Posted: 8/30/2005 11:12:11 PM EDT
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he posted on the m1911 forum that he got a surpise call from kimber saying they'd shipped it to his dealer, and then a half hour later got a call from his dealer saying they'd received it. he posted that he was gonna shoot it soon, but I havnt seen a reply as to whether or not he's shot it since.....
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Posted: 8/30/2005 11:37:37 PM EDT
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Gotta wonder about that. The only time I've seen something similar was a guy who accidently loaded a .40 in the mag it went click, chambered a .45 then BOOM. The .40 was still in the barrel. NO IT WASNT ME!
IIRC it was an SA loaded. The asshat actually got it fixed by SA after blaming our dept range ammo 
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