Beretta 92FS failing to eject, what should I do?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Beretta 92FS failing to eject, what should I do?

Posted: 2/27/2006 11:52:07 AM EDT

A friend loaned his Beretta 92FS to me to see if I could fix it for him. I took it shooting today, and it kicks the slide back far enough to recock the hammer, but no far enough for the empty casing to contact the ejector and kick it out, and not far enough to allow the bolt to begin stripping another round from the mag. It did this about 14 times in a row.

What should I do?

Posted: 2/27/2006 3:16:34 PM EDT

[#1]

Weak ammo or is the recoil spring too strong for the pistol (did he replace the spring with the wrong/too strong spring (96 unit))?

Is the barrel lock cracked?

Did he change out the factory spring guide with a buffered unit, and now the buffer material has exspanded and it binding the spring?

Pistol correctly lubed, including the barrel lock and the lock plunger?

Hammer strut installed correctly in the hamer notch, and not on one of the edges?

Posted: 2/28/2006 1:46:05 PM EDT

[#2]

before you go jacking around with the pistol, FIRST try shooting a different kind of ammo from it. also have somone else shoot it. the problem could lie in your grip of the pistol. if the ammo change and shooter changed doesnt help, then start looking for mechanical problems

Posted: 2/28/2006 1:54:16 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:

What should I do?

Send the gun to me & forget it ever existed!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 2/28/2006 1:58:16 PM EDT

[#4]

some loads eject less than enthusiastically from my 92, mostly pmc and pmp and the like, the brass ends up sort of dribbling out at my feet.

I would try different ammo, but also take a look at the springs, guide rod, locking block, etc.

Is it a real PIA to rack the slide?

Posted: 3/1/2006 9:02:34 PM EDT

[#5]

I tweaked my brother's 96 using an 18 lb recoil spring, factory is 13 IIRC. It spit out cases like a champ, slinging them back onto the windows behind the shooting stalls.

I tried some more ammo today, the first batch was PMC, FTE. Today I tried some Winchester White Box, FMJ, it too FTE.

I double checked the rod that pushes the hammer, it seems to be seated correctly. I dissasembled the pistol the other day to look for any issues, and I hope I put the striker/hammer rod back in like I'm supposed too.

Posted: 3/2/2006 12:52:39 AM EDT

[#6]

You could try a lighter spring from Wolff. Just a thought. Is the pistol all factory or tweaked?

Posted: 3/2/2006 1:33:31 AM EDT

[#7]

I would just thoroughly clean the pistol and remove the extractor and clean under it in the firing pin channel really well then reassemble and properly lube it with Militec-1 and try some Federal ball ammo or a +P ammo and see if the problem goes away.

Berettas can get very dirty under the extractor and prematurely let go of the casings before the slide moves far enough rearward for ejection.

Posted: 3/2/2006 9:28:59 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
You could try a lighter spring from Wolff. Just a thought. Is the pistol all factory or tweaked?

completely stock

Quoted:
Berettas can get very dirty under the extractor and prematurely let go of the casings before the slide moves far enough rearward for ejection.

It never lets go of the empty case, holds on to it like a champ, but the slide never goes back far enough for the ejector to contact the case. The slide cycles, traveling back far enough to recock the hammer, but it doesn't go far enough to force the case to contact the ejector, then it returns to battery, and can pull the trigger and drop the again on the fired case.

Posted: 3/2/2006 11:39:23 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
I would just thoroughly clean the pistol and remove the extractor and clean under it in the firing pin channel really well then reassemble and properly lube it with Militec-1 and try some Federal ball ammo or a +P ammo and see if the problem goes away.

Berettas can get very dirty under the extractor and prematurely let go of the casings before the slide moves far enough rearward for ejection.

I second this and would completely clean every thing.
Also is your ejector screwed up?
Has it moved back or wore or chipped or filed down?
Will it eject if you cycle the slide by hand?
Is there a burr or something that hinders it?

I am just throwing things out.

Posted: 3/2/2006 11:53:40 AM EDT

[#10]

My Beretta 92FS had failures to eject when I first got it. I got some more powerful ammunition. And it worked great. The cheap stuff just wasn't enough power to cycle the action properly. After I got the gun broken in, it will now shoot anything 100%. So I say just keep shooting it, or maybe leave the gun with the slide locked back when not in use to weaken the spring. Or worse come to worse buy a new recoil spring from Wolf. How old is the gun?

Posted: 3/2/2006 4:24:52 PM EDT

[#11]

I looked, and the ejector looks fine, no exposed metal that looks deformed or broken.
The action slides quite easily, until the slide contacts the hammer, then there is a sginifican't increase in force required to get it all the way to the rear. That's were a lot of resistance is felt when cycling the slide.

If you give the slide a healthy pull, it will eject a cartridge just as any other pistol I've encountered.

Posted: 3/2/2006 6:24:45 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I looked, and the ejector looks fine, no exposed metal that looks deformed or broken.
The action slides quite easily, until the slide contacts the hammer, then there is a sginifican't increase in force required to get it all the way to the rear. That's were a lot of resistance is felt when cycling the slide.

If you give the slide a healthy pull, it will eject a cartridge just as any other pistol I've encountered.

You need to pull the slide,
Push up on the Hammer Spring Cap, then push the cross pin out (Hammer Spring Cap, hammer spring will drop out).
Then pull the hammer pin out of the pistol to remove the hammer and Hammer Spring Guide.

Now load the hammer and then the Hammer Spring Guide correctly into the bottom of the hammer slot (when you re-install the the Hammer Spring Guide , and keep the pistol rail side down as you load the spring, Hammer Spring Cap back on.

Right now, it sounds like the Hammer Spring Guide is installed wrong, and/or, not installed into the hammer bottom pivot rail and it is binding in the spring channel.

Note: Hammer Spring Guide ball end goes towards the hammer (into the hammer slot detent), and the top bended section will go back towards the back of the frame (you load it from the hammer side. The spring will get loaded threw the bottom on the Hammer Spring Guide, and will pressured against the ball end retaining lips on the Hammer Spring Guide by the Hammer Spring Cap.
www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1150z92FS
part 35 is the strut

Posted: 3/2/2006 7:45:15 PM EDT

[#13]

Dano523,
Thanx for that, I've got some digital vids of the disassembly and reassembly, I'll follow your advice and see if that cures the problem.

Posted: 3/3/2006 10:25:20 AM EDT

[#14]

I put a lighter hammer spring in mine to help with the double action trigger pull but put an xtra power recoil spring in at the same time. It runs like a champ but it did before too.

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