Are G21s inherently accurate?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Are G21s inherently accurate?

Posted: 8/31/2013 11:40:59 AM EDT

I hear about it quite often - Glock owners talking about how their G21s are accurate.

So far I've owned 2 G21s, sold the first one off (Stupidly), bought a second one. Both have been BY FAR the most accurate 45 handguns I've owned, quite possibly the most accurate handguns I've owned period.

Don't get me wrong, my other glocks are accurate too, but the G21 will put a nice fist sized group on a plate at 50yds, i can't do that with my G35 with a longer sight radius, or my G17 with an identical sight radius.

I'm curious if this is just something with me, or if there's something else magical going on.

Posted: 8/31/2013 12:44:00 PM EDT

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No Sir, my G21SF is VERY accurate; I have friends who have .40 and 9mm Glocks comment on how accurate my G21 is.

Glock hit the ball outta the park with their .45's.

Posted: 8/31/2013 12:48:29 PM EDT

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I would say its the cartridge, more than the gun.

Posted: 8/31/2013 12:51:03 PM EDT

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How so?

Posted: 8/31/2013 1:19:59 PM EDT

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I would say its the cartridge, more than the gun.

How so?

I shoot my G30 as well as I shoot my G21...and I shoot them both way better than my G19

Posted: 8/31/2013 8:06:21 PM EDT

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Mine is accurate, but my hand fitted 1911 is more accurate and has been ultra reliable with over 10k rds through it.

I've actually went through 2 other polymer high capacity pistols because they would not run suppressed 100% like my 1911.

My glock 21 is pretty darn accurate but I haven't shot it suppressed yet.

Posted: 8/31/2013 8:53:43 PM EDT

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Out of the 5 Glocks I own my G21 Gen 4 is the easiest to be accurate with.

Punches out great targets without even trying.

Posted: 8/31/2013 9:15:11 PM EDT

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G21 I used to have was very accurate. Much to the chagrin of a very pompous Les Baer owner who could not shoot 1/2 as good as his two pistols.

Posted: 8/31/2013 9:31:48 PM EDT

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I'm doing it wrong I guess... I can't shoot as accurately with my G21 as my 1911 or G19 and G26. Must be my ladylike hand grip!

Posted: 9/1/2013 4:55:37 AM EDT

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Most firearms are more accurate than the person behind the sights!

~g

Posted: 9/1/2013 5:27:19 AM EDT

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I guess you have to define some sort of accuracy yardstick - I guess this is one of my pet peeves- IMO only by quoting routine on paper easily replicated groups done at a minimum of 25 yards ( throw some fifty yards groups in as well) can you have some idea of accuracy- steel targets lie sometimes - hitting an edge that still rings steel that you simply ignore and anything inside 25 yards can not show up ( shooters the same way groups a shooter shoots at5-10 yards can still look decent while hiding fundamental errors in technique that are blatant at 25 yards and beyond)
Ok enough of my rant _ it has been said by many that the 45 cal glocks are the most accurate.

Posted: 9/1/2013 6:50:14 AM EDT

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100% agreed by me!!!

Posted: 9/1/2013 7:50:06 AM EDT

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I have had a 30 and a 21 for over 5 years. I did from them being brand new and still do much better with the 30. I can't explain it.

Posted: 9/1/2013 8:45:44 AM EDT

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I was informed by a knowledgeable Glock owner who shall remain nameless, that the octagonal barrel rifling is a reason for their 45 accuracy.
My 21sf, and 30sf, have a tendency to make one ragged hole @ 7 meters.
My G19 ain't bad tho...take any of em for a job.

PS: please correct me if I'm wrong on the barrel info. I am no expert.

Posted: 9/1/2013 10:43:39 AM EDT

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Cav any gun can make ragged one hole seven yard groups proves nada. Need to stretch the range before you really know anything

Posted: 9/1/2013 11:27:30 AM EDT

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I think the G30 is known to be more accurate. Mine is.

Posted: 9/1/2013 1:53:58 PM EDT

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I always wondered, if they are more mechanically accurate....

....or just really easy to shoot well?

Posted: 9/1/2013 3:22:18 PM EDT

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Very true, sir. Next time out I plan on a trial @ 50m.

But as you know longer than 7 m engagements is not probable. When qualifying with the 1911 at Ft Knox, the range did stretch to 50 meters, and I was easily capable at that distance.

Looking forward to seeing what holdover if any is necessary. Should be fun!

Posted: 9/2/2013 5:51:56 AM EDT

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Do g21's normally have a looser slide to frame fit than say a g19?

I am more accurat with the g21 so far but you can shake the gun and hear the slide rattle around a little. On the g19 it feels tighter and does not rattle. It doesn't seem to affect function it just sticks out when I handle them side by side.

Posted: 9/2/2013 6:11:22 AM EDT

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my G21sf is th emost accurate pistol I own. I just picked theis GEN4 up this morning

Posted: 9/2/2013 6:46:50 AM EDT

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I agree my G21 I own several are easy to shoot and the 30 as well. Very accurate. But if I do my part hitting soda cans at 50 yards is easy.

Posted: 9/2/2013 6:48:13 AM EDT

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My G21 Gen4 is silly accurate, but with that said, my gen4 G30 is quite possibly the most accurate Glock I've owned, out of dozens.

Posted: 9/2/2013 7:08:37 PM EDT

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Somebody once said all Glocks should be 9mm. And eventhough so far all my Glocks ARE INDEED 9mm, I say NONSENSE.

I want a 21 so bad, and as usual, the Glock forum isn't helping in that department.

HTR.

ETA, can I get a G21+streamlight TLR1 light combo pic please? Anyone?

Posted: 9/2/2013 7:09:14 PM EDT

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Android induced double tap

HTR.

Posted: 9/2/2013 8:25:43 PM EDT

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I would say its the cartridge, more than the gun.

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Heavier projectile = less subjectable to being aerodynamic-altering forces. Also the lower pressure should been less flexing whether in the frame or the barrel.

In addition to this, the 45 Glocks are a little bit more accurate as they use a different type of barrel rifling that takes advantage of the .45. I suspect this is the main reason why the .45 Glocks are more money than the 9mm/40/.357

Posted: 9/7/2013 5:53:17 AM EDT

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I would say its the cartridge, more than the gun.

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......because its a .45?? hell you could be off a 1/4" and still hit your target

Posted: 9/7/2013 10:58:02 AM EDT

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Somebody once said all Glocks should be 9mm. And eventhough so far all my Glocks ARE INDEED 9mm, I say NONSENSE.
I want a 21 so bad, and as usual, the Glock forum isn't helping in that department.
HTR.
ETA, can I get a G21+streamlight TLR1 light combo pic please? Anyone?

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Not TLR-1s, but close enough?

Posted: 9/7/2013 5:01:53 PM EDT

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Not TLR-1s, but close enough?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/schenninge/GUN%20STUFF/DSC00630.jpg

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Somebody once said all Glocks should be 9mm. And eventhough so far all my Glocks ARE INDEED 9mm, I say NONSENSE.

I want a 21 so bad, and as usual, the Glock forum isn't helping in that department.

HTR.

ETA, can I get a G21+streamlight TLR1 light combo pic please? Anyone?

Not TLR-1s, but close enough?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/schenninge/GUN%20STUFF/DSC00630.jpg

Yes, thank you.

Do you notice a lot of difference between gen3&gen4 recoil wise? As in, gen4s are suppoused to be less snappy...does that really happen? Is the difference, if any, noticeable?

Thanks again for the photos.

HTR.

Posted: 9/7/2013 10:40:26 PM EDT

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I'm not sure if there's an actual or perceived difference in recoil. That being said, I prefer the Gen 4 due to the grip texture and larger magazine release.

Posted: 9/8/2013 10:49:25 AM EDT

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who considers a gen3 snappy?

both are identical in the recoil department... gen4 may be a touch calmer but neither are snappy by any means

Posted: 9/8/2013 11:31:14 AM EDT

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who considers a gen3 snappy?

both are identical in the recoil department... gen4 may be a touch calmer but neither are snappy by any means

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Owning three .45 ACP 1911s, not me

but if like you said, gen4s are a little calmer, I think waiting a little longer to get one is worth it as you also get a larger mag release which works better IMO with the larger frame and a arguibly better grip texture.

I guess it all comes down to personal preference.

Thanks for your input.

HTR.

Posted: 9/8/2013 12:42:15 PM EDT

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well a gen3 paired with a Vickers mag release is pretty nice too.... but I do like the 4th GEn mag release. the 4th gen (for me) is slowly edging out my 3rd GEN SF

Posted: 9/8/2013 3:48:30 PM EDT

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I think it's the people that buy G20/21's that are inherently accurate.

Posted: 9/8/2013 4:45:10 PM EDT

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Here ya go.

Posted: 9/8/2013 6:11:22 PM EDT

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Thanks!

BTW, that's a colorful in the true and good sense of the word, you got there. Very nice

HTR.

ETA: Im in Argentina, 95% of the Glocks that get imported here come directly from Austria via Glock America in Uruguay. I've been into firearms all of my life, a firearms instructor for over 10 years and in the firearms dealing busines for another 10 years (started off working
at a gunshop) and now I buy and sell used guns for fun (all of my personal firearms were purchased brand new and none ofbthem are for sale).

Why am I telling you all this? Well, as much as I have been still am and always will be around firearms, for some odd reason, I've never seen a gen4 Glock, in any other caliber than 9mm or .40 in the Arg market. Same thing goes for FDE Glocks, they just don't get imported into this god forsaken country. Any ideas why?

Posted: 9/8/2013 6:15:31 PM EDT

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Thanks. All the others are boring black.

Just got the 21 today. Ran some rounds through it when I got home. Awesome gun.

Posted: 9/8/2013 6:35:49 PM EDT

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No Sir, my G21SF is VERY accurate; I have friends who have .40 and 9mm Glocks comment on how accurate my G21 is.

Glock hit the ball outta the park with their .45's.

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I've had the same experience with the Glock 45 cals. I've recommended so many G21, G30 and G36 I should be getting a commission. Of the 3, I am the most accurate and precise with the G30, and I have no explanation as to why; I just am.