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Posted: 7/31/2013 6:56:01 AM EDT

I have a NIB PAP that is one of the older ones with the # in the rear and I'm offered a like new Draco with 100 rounds through it. Would you trade?
I already have a 107UR SBR and a Draco-c with an underfolder and perm 5" flash hider.
Can't decide!
Current Draco

Posted: 7/31/2013 7:23:36 AM EDT

[#1]

Chrome lined?

Yes.

Posted: 7/31/2013 7:48:31 AM EDT

[#2]

Draco yes
Pap no

Posted: 7/31/2013 8:03:33 AM EDT

[#3]

Keep the PAP and convert it to this

Posted: 7/31/2013 11:02:33 AM EDT

[#4]

So did you just leave out the bottom rivet?

Posted: 7/31/2013 11:58:34 AM EDT

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Yep, only on the serial number side, for obvious reasons.

Posted: 7/31/2013 3:09:48 PM EDT

[#6]

Chrome lined barrel gets my vote.

Posted: 7/31/2013 4:09:29 PM EDT

[#7]

Since you already own a draco i would not trade.

Posted: 7/31/2013 4:33:56 PM EDT

[#8]

i am bias

but with what you have allready why not leave the m92 as is. in yugo's non chrome lined is mil-spec

to me the yugo is one of the best looking ak's, in pistol form it is 100% yugo, and that will mean the most when they have dried up. they seem everywhere right now, but these guns come and go, or atleast since i've been paying attention it seems that way.

Posted: 7/31/2013 6:26:59 PM EDT

[#9]

Go chrome....

evl....

Posted: 8/1/2013 4:37:05 AM EDT

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Yep, only on the serial number side, for obvious reasons.

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Yep, only on the serial number side, for obvious reasons.

Did you do the work? If not would you mind telling me who did?

I have a old PAP that I would really like to get started on the way to SBR-dom

Posted: 8/1/2013 5:02:53 AM EDT

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Did you do the work? If not would you mind telling me who did?

I have a old PAP that I would really like to get started on the way to SBR-dom

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So did you just leave out the bottom rivet?

Yep, only on the serial number side, for obvious reasons.

Did you do the work? If not would you mind telling me who did?

I have a old PAP that I would really like to get started on the way to SBR-dom

Conversion was done by Matt Yeamans AKA TurboThis

http://www.mygunsnorthwest.com/

Posted: 8/1/2013 4:12:38 PM EDT

[#12]

Are you going to shoot either enough to see the benefits of chrome?

Posted: 8/1/2013 4:37:38 PM EDT

[#13]

The Yugo is a better short gun with the krinkov features. If chrome is a deal breaker, the 556 Yugoslav guns are chrome lined.

Posted: 8/2/2013 7:16:54 AM EDT

[#14]

My vote goes to the Draco.....go chrome or go home!

Posted: 8/4/2013 8:49:41 PM EDT

[#15]

In the end I wish I didn't put the UF on my Draco.

Posted: 8/4/2013 9:53:15 PM EDT

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what type of magazines do the 5.56 Yugo pistols take?

Posted: 8/7/2013 9:10:16 AM EDT

[#17]

I agree. There is nothing like a good AK 100 side folder.

Posted: 8/9/2013 6:57:25 AM EDT

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what type of magazines do the 5.56 Yugo pistols take?

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The Yugo is a better short gun with the krinkov features. If chrome is a deal breaker, the 556 Yugoslav guns are chrome lined.

what type of magazines do the 5.56 Yugo pistols take?

Thats a thread unto itself....

The best bet is the proprietary magazine. Galil mags work with small mods. Tapco Galil mags work as is, with some wobble.

Posted: 8/9/2013 9:15:47 AM EDT

[#19]

Proprietary SUX!

Draco's ROCK!

Posted: 8/10/2013 8:10:19 AM EDT

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What is the reasoning behind this

Posted: 8/15/2013 11:07:38 PM EDT

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At the time I was in the early stages of my collecting AKs, I am a bit of a purest, so I wanted what would be correct on a Draco. So my dumbass assumes it must have been an underfolder because of the trunnion, well I'm pretty sure it was a wire folder and so now it just bothers me me.

Posted: 8/16/2013 6:34:12 AM EDT

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At the time I was in the early stages of my collecting AKs, I am a bit of a purest, so I wanted what would be correct on a Draco. So my dumbass assumes it must have been an underfolder because of the trunnion, well I'm pretty sure it was a wire folder and so now it just bothers me me.

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I see what you are getting at, but where have you seen a Mini from the factory with any type of stock on it?

Posted: 8/16/2013 8:44:45 PM EDT

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I have not seen a mini with a stock however there were a few photos of Dracos used in in Europe in the early 90's and they don't use underfolder stocks, looked to be some type of folder. Also went to Mario's ( pice of history) and he showed me one he was working on, it had a wire folder on it. The way I understand it he was doing that because it was correct to the gun.

Posted: 8/17/2013 6:31:20 AM EDT

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I have not seen a mini with a stock however there were a few photos of Dracos used in in Europe in the early 90's and they don't use underfolder stocks, looked to be some type of folder. Also went to Mario's ( pice of history) and he showed me one he was working on, it had a wire folder on it. The way I understand it he was doing that because it was correct to the gun.

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Again, I see where you are going with this but there really is no such thing as being a purist when it comes to a Mini IMHO.

Posted: 8/17/2013 8:23:54 PM EDT

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Not talking about the mini Draco, I'm talking about my the Draco-c which is pictured above.
Look at this, this is what I'm talking about.
Link

Posted: 8/18/2013 5:00:10 AM EDT

[#26]

If I had a PAP and an opportunity to trade for a Draco, the PAP would be history. It doesn't take long to see the benefit of the CL, especially if corrosive ammo is used and the cleaning is forgotten or neglected for a while. I have seen a pitted Yugo barrel. It kept me from buying an otherwise beautiful pre-ban Yugo that was a great deal at the time. I haven't entertained the thought of buying a weapon with a non-chrome lined barrel since. It was that bad. I like being able to shoot and forget about the weapon for a few weeks and CL allows that.

evl....

Posted: 8/28/2013 2:16:23 AM EDT

[#27]

CAI describes their Zastava PAP M92 PV Pistols, both the new and the old, as having "chrome plated gas piston, bolt and barrel" here: http://www.centuryarms.biz/search.asp
Search term is 'M92'

Posted: 8/28/2013 6:23:09 AM EDT

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CAI describes their Zastava PAP M92 PV Pistols, both the new and the old, as having "chrome plated gas piston, bolt and barrel" here: http://www.centuryarms.biz/search.asp
Search term is 'M92'

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True, but that does not equal a chrome lined barrel.

Posted: 8/28/2013 7:22:07 AM EDT

[#29]

The BBL is not chromed. Century always misrepresents their product

Posted: 8/28/2013 9:16:26 AM EDT

[#30]

Can you make your draco look like this? then no.

Posted: 8/28/2013 2:42:07 PM EDT

[#31]

COME ON ARin GIVE US SOME PIC'S OF IT FOLDED FOR GOD SAKES!!!!!!!

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Can you make your draco look like this? then no.

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Posted: 8/28/2013 3:13:30 PM EDT

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not at home right now to take a pic, but it looks like any other folded krink. what are you hoping to see exactly?

Posted: 8/28/2013 3:36:35 PM EDT

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it's like tits man, you've seen one pair and you want to see the rest, same concept here
can you take a pic of it folded with a magazine in it?

Posted: 8/28/2013 3:48:49 PM EDT

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ARin

will you post pics in my thred too?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/150771_new_M92.html

i really like your set-up.

what mag bag is that???

Posted: 8/28/2013 7:15:03 PM EDT

[#35]

Here ya go you bunch of weirdos.

Posted: 8/29/2013 4:48:31 AM EDT

[#36]

If I had that bitch Id make her wear a chastity belt. She may look like a lady, but I'll bet she can get down and dirty with a thirty.

Posted: 8/29/2013 5:00:20 AM EDT

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True, but that does not equal a chrome lined barrel.

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CAI describes their Zastava PAP M92 PV Pistols, both the new and the old, as having "chrome plated gas piston, bolt and barrel" here: http://www.centuryarms.biz/search.asp
Search term is 'M92'

True, but that does not equal a chrome lined barrel.

But, the M85 does have a CL barrel.

Posted: 8/29/2013 5:45:18 AM EDT

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However we were talking about the PAP M92.

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But, the M85 does have a CL barrel.

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CAI describes their Zastava PAP M92 PV Pistols, both the new and the old, as having "chrome plated gas piston, bolt and barrel" here: http://www.centuryarms.biz/search.asp
Search term is 'M92'

True, but that does not equal a chrome lined barrel.

But, the M85 does have a CL barrel.

Posted: 8/29/2013 6:24:45 AM EDT

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However we were talking about the PAP M92.

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However we were talking about the PAP M92.

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CAI describes their Zastava PAP M92 PV Pistols, both the new and the old, as having "chrome plated gas piston, bolt and barrel" here: http://www.centuryarms.biz/search.asp
Search term is 'M92'

True, but that does not equal a chrome lined barrel.

But, the M85 does have a CL barrel.

My initial response was to back up Evil's comment which did not specifically mention the M95.