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Posted: 3/23/2010 4:24:07 PM EDT
how i made it: http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com/app.php draco is base gun. VZ stock, and that one awesome compensator , that i cant find any info on your thoughts on this concept? any information, like pricing, on the comp as well, i emailed them, no reply. thanks in advance KK-47 |
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Posted: 3/23/2010 5:55:23 PM EDT
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I think the VZ-58 stock is the best overall fit for the Draco. I am not fond of the muzzle break, a little big for me...
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Posted: 3/23/2010 7:16:17 PM EDT
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Very Nice!
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Posted: 3/24/2010 3:49:30 AM EDT
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i forgot to note: in the game, there is not a VZ stock availible so i modified a H&K stock and built a folding mechanisim. so its not actually a VZ stock, but an accurate representation.
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Posted: 3/24/2010 6:25:38 AM EDT
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I noticed it was an HK A3 stock, like the one my HK-94 had.
 It looks very nice. It's got that "SBR Look" but without actually being NFA. The muzzle device is much better looking than just plain barrel.
OTOH, you've got the limitations of a pistol AK's shorter sight radius, and a 12" barrel and subsequent 200fps, give or take, loss of velocity of 7.62x39. 
So cosmetically, it's VERY, VERY, COOL. Functionally, or in bang-for-buck terms, not so much. |
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Posted: 3/24/2010 6:40:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/24/2010 7:49:44 AM EDT
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WOW, look at Mr Fancy pants here! Thats some very cool computer work! Looks slick but I to dislike the brake. I change it out for a non-existent brake I made with MS paint. <a href="http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/stomp13/?action=view¤t=untitled-2.jpg" target="_blank">http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/stomp13/untitled-2.jpg</a> Much better. However, I think the OP is looking to avoid the NFA expense/hassle at this point in time. So he's got a 4" brake either high-temp silver soldered or blind pinned welded so it's 16". |
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Posted: 3/24/2010 7:57:33 AM EDT
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WOW, look at Mr Fancy pants here! Thats some very cool computer work! Looks slick but I to dislike the brake. I change it out for a non-existent brake I made with MS paint. <a href="http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/stomp13/?action=view¤t=untitled-2.jpg" target="_blank">http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/stomp13/untitled-2.jpg</a> That brake is on point. Wish I could find something like that 
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Posted: 3/24/2010 12:15:24 PM EDT
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That brake is on point. Wish I could find something like that Thank you. Im thinking that if you take the O.P.s brake, cut it down to size, and rethread it, it would work, if it had enough meat. Halflife you wouldn't have a 14mmx1 tap and matching drill would you? |
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Posted: 3/24/2010 12:21:24 PM EDT
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Great ideas. If you are gonna go w/the mile long FH to avoid NFA go high class and get a Surefire muzzle brake for .30 cal. It is gonna have to be pinned/soldiered/welded anyway.
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Posted: 3/24/2010 2:02:38 PM EDT
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That brake looks like an ak 74 with a krink stacked on top!
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Posted: 3/24/2010 2:35:53 PM EDT
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That brake is on point. Wish I could find something like that Halflife you wouldn't have a 14mmx1 tap and matching drill would you[/span]? 
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Posted: 3/24/2010 3:11:42 PM EDT
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heres another, good for getting ideas. this ones just for y'all
and the design in post 1 is basicly what im going to do. my mind is made. |
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Posted: 3/24/2010 5:46:19 PM EDT
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Didnt I buy a 12mmx1 tap and matching drill from you? Kind of a joke. I guess not a very good one |
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Posted: 3/24/2010 5:47:46 PM EDT
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kalashnikopy47
I must know what program you are using? I love the idea duh. I see it in the first post. |
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Posted: 3/24/2010 6:44:55 PM EDT
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kalashnikopy47 I must know what program you are using? I love the idea duh. I see it in the first post. i like playing around in that game. an update is due soon, and we'll be abel to do more then. and remember, its only the beta |
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Posted: 3/25/2010 6:22:17 AM EDT
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http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt324/xp41007/dracowithvz.jpg how i made it: http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com/app.php draco is base gun. VZ stock, and that one awesome compensator , that i cant find any info on any information, like pricing, on the comp as well, i emailed them, no reply. thanks in advance KK-47 I also called the number on the link you provided & they haven't even setup their voice mail. Maybe they're out of business? I found this other alternative. The VZ stock is available at czechpoint-usa.com BTW. |
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Posted: 3/25/2010 12:28:53 PM EDT
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Thanks a lot RED-X
i will definitely consider it. ill either go with this one or make my own by combineing a 74 and krink somehow without a trashy look. |
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Posted: 3/30/2010 12:53:17 PM EDT
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Okay thi sis close to your original specs
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Posted: 3/31/2010 1:15:54 PM EDT
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pretty flippin sweet! i saw all the other photos aswell. awesome, BTW, hows the muzzle flash?
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Okay thi sis close to your original specs http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/swatbwana/rifle/2009_040612-07to4-080057.jpg |
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Posted: 3/31/2010 3:58:22 PM EDT
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Not too bad, that extension soaks up some Burning gas for sure nice big BOOOM however...
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Posted: 3/31/2010 4:28:58 PM EDT
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Okay to recap cost
Draco 375 out the door VZ 58 folder and lock nut plus bolt 65 Brownells moly Spray 22 utg FRONT END 55 tapco Brake 20 barrel extension 12 $549.00 Not to bad for a one of a kind folder AK with a Picatinny rail. Oh and the 7.62x39 is like the 6.8 you get great velocities from 10 inches to 14 inches and really no gain with a 16 incher. |
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Posted: 4/1/2010 12:31:18 PM EDT
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Okay to recap cost Draco 375 out the door VZ 58 folder and lock nut plus bolt 65 Brownells moly Spray 22 utg FRONT END 55 tapco Brake 20 barrel extension 12 $549.00 Not to bad for a one of a kind folder AK with a Picatinny rail. Oh and the 7.62x39 is like the 6.8 you get great velocities from 10 inches to 14 inches and really no gain with a 16 incher. Very nice. What kind of pad are you using on your VZ folder & are you using a 2" barrel extension w/ a 2" brake? |
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Posted: 4/5/2010 10:41:05 AM EDT
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Pad is from a VLTOR Emod, I bent and epoxied to the stock after removing the glass breaker tip Barrel extension is 2 inches and the brake a little over 2 comes out to just over 16.1 from the breech to out the barrrel.
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Posted: 4/5/2010 12:13:34 PM EDT
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Pad is from a VLTOR Emod, I bent and epoxied to the stock after removing the glass breaker tip Barrel extension is 2 inches and the brake a little over 2 comes out to just over 16.1 from the breech to out the barrrel. Thank you. Would an accurate way to measure the overall barrel lenght be by inserting something like a narrow rod down it w/ the bolt in the close position & measure? |
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Posted: 4/5/2010 12:47:26 PM EDT
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Yo dog, I heard you like muzzle brakes so we put a muzzle brake on your muzzle brake so you can brake your muzzle while you brake?
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Posted: 4/5/2010 3:31:33 PM EDT
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yup thats what the atf does
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Posted: 4/5/2010 8:21:04 PM EDT
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Yo dog, I heard you like muzzle brakes so we put a muzzle brake on your muzzle brake so you can brake your muzzle while you brake? LOL xesbit! right (spellcheck) |
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Posted: 4/6/2010 12:04:11 PM EDT
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fashizzle
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Posted: 4/12/2010 9:15:23 PM EDT
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Awesome find in that Pimp My Gun website. Thanks.
Here's one I did for my Draco. I'll eventually SBR it, but for now, I'm trying to decide on furniture color and muzzle attachments. http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr298/Saiga-Fan/DracoConcepts.jpg |
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Posted: 4/13/2010 4:08:27 AM EDT
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WOW. those are great! but i cant find what you used in the program like the AMD forend and the super realistic front sight/gas block. which version are you using?
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Posted: 4/13/2010 9:01:11 PM EDT
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I drew those myself in MS Paint.
If you want the bitmap files for them, email me and I'll send them to you. I'm still looking for a SAW grip somewhere to use, since my Draco has one. http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr298/Saiga-Fan/Dracoright.jpg Here's a better view of some of the concepts: http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr298/Saiga-Fan/DracoConcepts2.jpg |
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Posted: 4/14/2010 4:16:44 AM EDT
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Sweetness man. great job.
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Posted: 4/20/2010 7:22:43 PM EDT
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The OPs idea of non-NFA carbine built off a Draco, is exactly what I was thinking about doing.
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Posted: 4/21/2010 4:10:20 AM EDT
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UPDATE:
new parts, i may use a rommy "G" wood VFG, AKA, donkey shlong, ect... and the K-var long krink muzzle device as apposed to the AK-USA, as no contact could be made. also, i am currently working as a video editor for a christian fitness company, so, as soon as my first project is complete the build will start. thank you all for the great ideas. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:19:48 PM EDT
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http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/ex-oga/DRACO%20Build%20Concept/DracoUnderfolder1.jpg
Anyone know if an underfolder is possible with the DRACO trunnion? This is my concept using pimp's limited library. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:49:38 PM EDT
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[quote
Anyone know if an underfolder is possible with the DRACO trunnion? This is my concept using pimp's limited library.[/quote] if they used an underfolding trunion without drilling the reciver, yes. just drill the reciver properly and install. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:29:52 PM EDT
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http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/ex-oga/DRACO%20Build%20Concept/DracoUnderfolder1.jpg Anyone know if an underfolder is possible with the DRACO trunnion? This is my concept using pimp's limited library. Would the AFG interfer with the underfolder when closed? |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:37:16 AM EDT
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Yes, I'm sure it would. I just included it because pimpmygun doesn't give many other options. Ideally, the rail would be an Ultimak like Gardner's super cool build. That would allow some sort of grip pushed way out front. Maybe a LaRue or KAC handstop rather than a grip.
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