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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:33:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
People used to ask us about how to convert an underfolder AK to accept our stocks. My standard answer was that it it was too hard and expensive, so the best thing would be to sell the underfolder and buy a side-folder. I then found that there are quite a few registered NFA underfolder AKs, both full auto and SBRs. They can't be easily replaced.
When the idea was explored, it turned out that there are a lot of underfolders used by foreign militaries who would just as soon find an inexpensive way to convert them all to side-folders. We are now introducing the AKMS Underfolder to Side-Folder Adapter for stamped-reciever underfolder AK rifles. The adapter installs easily in place of the existing stock hinge. It is a modular system that is compatible with our UAS style stocks and our collapsible stock systems, including the recoil-reducing stock system. Here it is with the recoil-reducing folding stock system and the GK-MAG Buttstock, mounted on a Yugo underfolder AK.    Shown on the same rifle with a UAS stock (old style UAS).   |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:36:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Reasons for converting an underfolder to a side folder:
• Underfolders have notoriously poor cheek welds, resulting in a rifle that is more difficult and uncomfortable to shoot well. • Side-folders often can be deployed more quickly and easily than under folders. • Underfolders tend to prevent the use of most aftermarket handguards.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:36:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
[#2]
Features:
• Heavy aluminum construction for strength. • Easy drop-in replacement for underfolding stocks. • Replaces the hinge mechanism and reduces weight. • The stock angle can be adjusted. • Works with all FAB Defense polymer-hinge stock systems. • Military-grade conversion built for nations who are converting their underfolder AKs to side-folders. • No permanent modification to the rifle - it can easily be restored to original configuration.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:38:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Looks like a good option for people with worn out folder mechanisms.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:44:35 PM EDT
[#4]
I will post links and pricing info as soon as I have them, but I wanted to get these photos posted right away.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 7:06:31 PM EDT
[#5]
That is pretty cool.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 7:31:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Ooooh, awesome. I would definitely shoot my M70 more if it had a different stock.
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Posted: 9/25/2013 1:11:40 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba: Ooooh, awesome. I would definitely shoot my M70 more if it had a different stock.  |
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USA
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Posted: 9/25/2013 2:03:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
• No permanent modification to the rifle - it can easily be restored to original configuration. that right there would be a good selling point for someone looking to keep their rifle "pure" but still take it out and tacticool it up |
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Posted: 10/10/2013 7:27:42 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm looking at one of these for my SBR Yugo 92 Krink.
Does this utilize a mil-spec tube that I could attach a Magpul CTR if I prefer that stock..?? |
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Posted: 10/10/2013 11:59:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Tagscribed for additional information.
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Posted: 10/11/2013 3:41:47 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MONGO45: I'm looking at one of these for my SBR Yugo 92 Krink. Does this utilize a mil-spec tube that I could attach a Magpul CTR if I prefer that stock..?? |
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Posted: 10/11/2013 4:50:59 AM EDT
[#12]
When do you guys think this will get released and do you have an MSRP yet?
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Posted: 10/11/2013 10:18:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
The collapsible stock version uses a commercial-spec dimensioned extension. The reason for this is because most of the foreign militaries (the biggest customers for these systems) buy commercial-spec stocks. You would want to use the commercial-spec CTR stock. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
I'm looking at one of these for my SBR Yugo 92 Krink. Does this utilize a mil-spec tube that I could attach a Magpul CTR if I prefer that stock..?? That's the route I'll take..... Cost and availability..??? |
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Posted: 10/11/2013 10:44:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MONGO45: Cost and availability..??? |
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Posted: 10/11/2013 4:56:05 PM EDT
[#15]
I should have that very soon. Out of the country at the moment, but I will check to see if we have the pricing set as soon as I get back.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2013 8:00:25 PM EDT
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Just when I thought I'd seen everything. Good on ya for doing this.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/12/2013 12:07:33 AM EDT
[#17]
You know what I'd like to see??? I'd like to see an OVERFOLDER, now THAT would be cool.
How cool? 
So damn cool!
I have seen them on tacti-Shotguns, and they look.....well, really cool :-) Also, can one install an underfolder trunion if they were so disposed? Or is that a receiver issue? Thank you, cordially, ProfB |
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Posted: 10/12/2013 7:37:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Installing an underfolder trunnion on a non-underfolder receiver would take some work to the receiver. It is quite different. it might be easier to just replace a receiver with an underfolder receiver.
Top folder would be interesting, but there are issues with it that would have to be resolved, like charging handle clearance, and I don't know that we are the ones to get involved with something like that, since it would be more of a novelty than anything, and there are manufacturers better suited to those type of products.
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USA
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Posted: 10/13/2013 11:42:44 AM EDT
[#19]
look at the North Korean design, that's the only AK I know of so far that does that
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Posted: 10/16/2013 10:52:09 PM EDT
[#20]
You get points for this one.
Well thought out. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2013 8:51:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MadRussian75]
[#21]
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Posted: 10/25/2013 9:02:39 AM EDT
[#22]
What options exist for stocks? Only the UAS and M4 style at this point?
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:33:18 AM EDT
[#23]
Yeah, yeah, I know, two posts in a row.
Any updates? It's been about a month since the last one. Will a fixed (non-folding) option be available? |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2013 10:56:33 PM EDT
[#24]
Will this work with a milled receiver ak? Or will there be one for a milled ak?
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Posted: 11/23/2013 5:30:23 PM EDT
[#25]
Apparently this is vaporware since they don't want to post about it.
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Posted: 11/26/2013 3:40:15 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By another48hrs: Will this work with a milled receiver ak? Or will there be one for a milled ak? |
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Posted: 11/26/2013 3:43:02 PM EDT
[#27]
any word on a release date?
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Posted: 11/28/2013 4:39:16 PM EDT
[#28]
So, MakoDefense, whats the update on these?
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Posted: 11/29/2013 12:07:38 AM EDT
[#29]
I am working on getting a price confirmed so I can have them added to the website before our Black Friday 30% off sale is over for those who want to take advantage of that pricing.
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Posted: 11/29/2013 12:11:49 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
I am working on getting a price confirmed so I can have them added to the website before our Black Friday 30% off sale is over for those who want to take advantage of that pricing. No shit? Are they going to ship before Christmas if we order them tomorrow? |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 1:57:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense: I am working on getting a price confirmed so I can have them added to the website before our Black Friday 30% off sale is over for those who want to take advantage of that pricing. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 2:16:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOLL223:
Better hurry the day is half over already. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOLL223:
Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
I am working on getting a price confirmed so I can have them added to the website before our Black Friday 30% off sale is over for those who want to take advantage of that pricing. I've gotten two identical messages from Mako today but they only have 3 items, none of which are that stock. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 5:56:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba: I've gotten two identical messages from Mako today but they only have 3 items, none of which are that stock. For anyone who may have been confused by your post, ALL of our items are 30% off with the coupon code through Monday, and there are a lot more than 3 items.
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Posted: 11/29/2013 5:57:18 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOLL223: Better hurry the day is half over already. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 6:00:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense: Sale is through Monday - I am working on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense: Originally Posted By THOLL223: Better hurry the day is half over already. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 7:25:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Why would you even post something like this? Several thousand people received that email, so chances are several here got the email and will know that what you are posting is untrue. For anyone who may have been confused by your post, ALL of our items are 30% off with the coupon code through Monday, and there are a lot more than 3 items. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By phurba:
I've gotten two identical messages from Mako today but they only have 3 items, none of which are that stock. For anyone who may have been confused by your post, ALL of our items are 30% off with the coupon code through Monday, and there are a lot more than 3 items. sorry, 4 items. the email shows 4 items, none of which are that stock. Why are you flipping out? Two sights, a mag, and a different stock. no link to purchase this stock. I got two copies of the same email. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 8:34:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba: sorry, 4 items. the email shows 4 items, none of which are that stock. Why are you flipping out? Two sights, a mag, and a different stock. no link to purchase this stock. I got two copies of the same email. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 9:31:29 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Please read this thread, and read the emails. Check our industry forum and our facebook page. The sale is very clearly explained. Where we are with this stock system is explained above in this thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By phurba:
sorry, 4 items. the email shows 4 items, none of which are that stock. Why are you flipping out? Two sights, a mag, and a different stock. no link to purchase this stock. I got two copies of the same email. What are you on about? I've been following this thread since it was started. Your facebook page says nothing about this stock since September. The emails also say nothing about where to get this stock. You said you were going to add it for Black Friday. Someone else said BF was half over, and in response to that I commented that the identical emails I got didn't mention it. And then Why would you even post something like this? Several thousand people received that email, so chances are several here got the email and will know that what you are posting is untrue.
For anyone who may have been confused by your post, ALL of our items are 30% off with the coupon code through Monday, and there are a lot more than 3 items. Nothing in my post was untrue, except when I mistakenly said the email had 3 items when it was actually 4. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 9:40:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Never mind, I don't know how to explain it any better than it has been already.
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Posted: 11/29/2013 9:48:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Never mind, I don't know how to explain it any better than it has been already. Explaining what I said that was untrue would be a good start. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 10:14:01 PM EDT
[#41]
How about we just keep the thread on topic. I don't have time at the moment to try to figure out how to re-explain something that has been explained and re-explained in detail in several places.
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Posted: 11/29/2013 10:33:41 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
How about we just keep the thread on topic. I don't have time at the moment to try to figure out how to re-explain something that has been explained and re-explained in detail in several places. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
How about we just keep the thread on topic. I don't have time at the moment to try to figure out how to re-explain something that has been explained and re-explained in detail in several places. You accused me of lying but won't explain what I supposedly lied about. My only claim was that I got two identical emails with 34 items in it, and the stock wasn't one of them. Originally Posted By phurba:
I've gotten two identical messages from Mako today but they only have 34 items, none of which are that stock. The email: 
And then you call me a liar. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 10:48:02 PM EDT
[#43]
Not sure what the deal is here. Read the thread. Read the threads in our industry forum. Read our facebook page. Read the emails you received. I don't want a fight - I'm just at a bit of a loss here . . .
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Posted: 11/29/2013 10:52:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Not sure what the deal is here. Read the thread. Read the threads in our industry forum. Read our facebook page. Read the emails you received. I don't want a fight - I'm just at a bit of a loss here . . . Read the thread to gather WHAT? The only thing I said was that the emails I got from you today didn't say anything about the stock. Then you claimed I was lying. The deal is you called me a liar for saying that. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 11:02:20 PM EDT
[#45]
Not going to get in a fight - it serves no purpose.
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Posted: 11/29/2013 11:08:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MakoDefense:
Not going to get in a fight - it serves no purpose. I've been a customer for years. I even stood up for Mako during the magazine mess. I posted a simple comment that your email contained no reference to the stock. You claimed what I said was untrue but refused to explain. I don't take kindly to being called a liar. Congratulations on losing a customer. |
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Posted: 11/29/2013 11:08:09 PM EDT
[#47]
So, uhhhh...
Will there be a non-folding version? |
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Posted: 12/1/2013 12:10:10 AM EDT
[#48]
Getting back on track, it's easy to appreciate the design and thought that went into this product. It looks like a winner to me.
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Posted: 12/2/2013 2:36:18 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba: I posted a simple comment that your email contained no reference to the stock. You claimed what I said was untrue but refused to explain. The point I was trying to make is that we have all of our products on sale for 30% off, not just three or four. If the email is confusing, then it needs to be set up differently next time (and it went out once without the coupon code, adding more confusion).
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Posted: 12/2/2013 2:38:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grin: So, uhhhh... Will there be a non-folding version? |
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