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Posted: 2/27/2011 2:21:58 PM EDT

Students of the Scorpion youth military club participate in an
on-the-run jump exercise from a pick-up truck as they take an exam on
the Defender of the Fatherland Day, some 40 km (25 miles) south of
Russia's Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk February 23, 2011.

A student of the Scorpion Youth Military Club runs with a Dragunov
semi-automatic sniper rifle as he takes an exam on the Defender of the
Fatherland Day, some 40 km (25 miles) south of Russia's Siberian city of
Krasnoyarsk, February 23, 2011.

A student of the Scorpion youth military club disassembles a Dragunov
semi-automatic sniper rifle as he takes an exam on the Defender of the
Fatherland day in the town of Divnogorsk, 38 km (24 miles) south of
Russia's Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk, February 23, 2011.

Posted: 2/27/2011 2:25:54 PM EDT

[#1]

Meanwhile in the US; American kids get fat and worthless while playing Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare and using Tweeter about the next comic convention.

We are doomed; WE ARE RED SHIRT IN STAR TREK DOOMED.

Posted: 2/27/2011 2:26:09 PM EDT

[#2]

A student of the Scorpion Youth Military Club demonstrates his skills,
with Sergei Chesalin, a former paratrooper officer and the club's
trainer watching in the background, as he takes an exam on the Defender
of the Fatherland Day

A student of the Scorpion Youth Military Club crawls along a snowy road
while holding an SVDS sniper rifle as he takes an exam on the
Defender of the Fatherland Day.

Students of the Scorpion youth military club inspect an area while
walking along a 44-metre-high (48 yards) technological bridge as they
take an exam on the Defender of the Fatherland Day.

Posted: 2/27/2011 3:27:39 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Meanwhile in the US; American kids get fat and worthless while playing Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare and using Tweeter about the next comic convention.

We are doomed; WE ARE RED SHIRT IN STAR TREK DOOMED.

LMAO

Awesome pics btw, I'm jealous that kid gets to run around with an SVDS.

Z

Posted: 2/27/2011 6:44:03 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:

LMAO
Awesome pics btw, I'm jealous that kid gets to run around with an SVDS.
Z

I agree! If you have more, post em!

Posted: 2/28/2011 3:34:37 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

And on closer inspection that looks like a POSP 8x42.

I've never seen a photo of one on a military weapon, makes me curious to know more about that SVDS and the Skorpian Youth. Are they like boyscouts or a civilian organization that also teaches weapon handling, or are they more like a military organization for kids?

Z

Posted: 2/28/2011 6:40:49 AM EDT

[#6]

Colonel Ernesto Bella "A member of an elite paramilitary organization, Eagle Scouts."

Posted: 2/28/2011 7:21:00 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

And on closer inspection that looks like a POSP 8x42.
I've never seen a photo of one on a military weapon, makes me curious to know more about that SVDS and the Skorpian Youth. Are they like boyscouts or a civilian organization that also teaches weapon handling, or are they more like a military organization for kids?

Z

Yeah when I saw that I was impressed by the equipment these boys get to use in their "club" Everything looks about new. I also assume the scope is "military issue" because it is black and not gray. Someone asked for more photos. Click here.

Posted: 2/28/2011 7:37:40 AM EDT

[#8]

Ill admit that looks fun as hell, and they get a badass thumbs up from me!

Posted: 2/28/2011 7:40:30 AM EDT

[#9]

I love the "jump out of truck/ land on head" drill....

Posted: 2/28/2011 8:18:54 AM EDT

[#10]

That helmet reminds me of Spaceballs.

Posted: 2/28/2011 11:01:43 AM EDT

[#11]

That SVD beats ROTC.

Posted: 2/28/2011 2:58:25 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I also assume the scope is "military issue" because it is black and not gray.

Actually I thought the opposite, black was civilian and hammer grey military. The more things like this come up and we discuss it, the more questions I have and the more I am tempted to quit my job and go to Russia to write a book about optics.

Z

Posted: 2/28/2011 4:42:35 PM EDT

[#13]

I asked NPZ about this a few weeks ago and here is their reply:

C Berg , USA:

In reference to your military PSO-1M2 scope, I have seen
pictures of them in light silver color and dark silver or black color.
Is there a functional difference between these scopes or is it simply
cosmetic? Why is there more than one color?

Thank you.
Answer:

PSO-1M2 military optical sight has a civic analog PO4x24.
The latter is made in light silver colour. PSO-1M2 is painted in black
colour. Their characteristics are the same. 19/2/11

They confirm that black=military issue.

Quoted:

Quoted:

I also assume the scope is "military issue" because it is black and not gray.

Actually I thought the opposite, black was civilian and hammer grey military. The more things like this come up and we discuss it, the more questions I have and the more I am tempted to quit my job and go to Russia to write a book about optics.
Z

Posted: 2/28/2011 5:19:35 PM EDT

[#14]

I was under the same impression Zen was....Guess I better start saving for that trip to Russia....

Posted: 2/28/2011 5:49:40 PM EDT

[#15]

I guess the debate comes from a few things possibly related, but maybe I am just drawing incorrect assumptions.

From what I know:

PK-A scopes that are hammer grey are military issue from what I understand, the black versions have different features like POSP turrets for example and appear to be civilian marketed only. Maybe this is Internet lore that has built up in my mind from gleaning bits of information from forums over the years.

Black finished scopes seem like the finish is less durable than the hammer grey versions which implies to me civilian grade.

Mildot reticule 8x42's seem to be relatively common in black but I don't think I recall ever seeing that they were in service in Russia (To be fair hammer grey models are out there too, and there are both grey and black Dragunov reticule versions). That photo of the black 8x42 is the first I've ever seen actually, which is what started this whole line of thinking.

The black 4x24 POSP has a Simonov reticule which appears to be calibrated in MOA and not by caliber, I also can't think of this being used in service. Seems like a purely civilian scope.

Other than the PK-AS and Kobra, for some reason I can't think of a military issue scope that's black. PO 3.5x21P is a heck of a scope but I don't know for sure if it's military issue...it's black. On the other hand 1P78, 1P29, 1P63 and even the older NSPU's and 1PN58's are hammer grey or dark grey which seems to reinforce the hammer grey theory. And of course PSO-1's which are notoriously hammer grey, even the PSO-1M2 isn't black it's dark grey.

Maybe it's just as simple as they changed the color to black sometime in the nineties and thats that. I dunno...like I said I'm confused, but I do find it extremely interesting NPZ confirmed black is military issue. Definitely have not heard that before

Z

Posted: 2/28/2011 6:49:47 PM EDT

[#16]

Awesome pics, I wish something like that existed when I was younger...

Anyone know what kind of truck that is they are jumping out of?

Posted: 2/28/2011 7:36:36 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Awesome pics, I wish something like that existed when I was younger...

Anyone know what kind of truck that is they are jumping out of?

a moving one? dadadum!

Posted: 2/28/2011 7:40:29 PM EDT

[#18]

Yeah the whole color thing is strange. And we need to be careful in confusing Belomo products (POSP) with NPZ (PSO or PO) too. I don't know what the color scheme is with the Belorusian products (they haven't returned my emails). I think NPZ is stating anything that's not light silver is considered "military" (black or dark gray) but then I've seen plenty of photos of military guys with silver optics.

With the PSO scopes, I think it really comes down to the reticle anyway. NPZ does not want the 1.7 or 1.8 range finder in civilian hands for some reason so if a scope has it you can consider it to be a military optic.

Posted: 2/28/2011 8:23:15 PM EDT

[#19]

That is one big ass helmet.

Posted: 2/28/2011 8:30:39 PM EDT

[#20]

Very cool. What's with the regular tennis shoes, though?

Posted: 2/28/2011 9:29:54 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Awesome pics, I wish something like that existed when I was younger...

Anyone know what kind of truck that is they are jumping out of?

Edit.

I'm going to say it could be one of about four pick-ups that look similar.

toyota Hilux
Isuzu D-max
GWM WIngle
Nissan D22

Posted: 2/28/2011 10:06:53 PM EDT

[#22]

I don't know much about pick up but maybe it's a Nissan Frontier?

Posted: 3/1/2011 6:57:00 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07w5fZj6mjcMm/610x.jpg

And on closer inspection that looks like a POSP 8x42.

I've never seen a photo of one on a military weapon, makes me curious to know more about that SVDS and the Skorpian Youth. Are they like boyscouts or a civilian organization that also teaches weapon handling, or are they more like a military organization for kids?

Z

Yeah when I saw that I was impressed by the equipment these boys get to use in their "club" Everything looks about new. I also assume the scope is "military issue" because it is black and not gray. Someone asked for more photos. Click here.

These are most likely the MMG's (demilled "replicas").

Posted: 3/1/2011 6:59:14 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Meanwhile in the US; American kids get fat and worthless while playing Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare and using Tweeter about the next comic convention.

We are doomed; WE ARE RED SHIRT IN STAR TREK DOOMED.

LMAO

Awesome pics btw, I'm jealous that kid gets to run around with an SVDS.

Z

Don't be jealous. Last month you did similar thing. Rolled around in the snow and got to handle SVDS.

Posted: 3/1/2011 7:06:34 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Awesome pics, I wish something like that existed when I was younger...

Anyone know what kind of truck that is they are jumping out of?

Actually it exists now for adaults at behindlines.net. Except you jump off a deuce and a half.

Posted: 3/1/2011 3:22:17 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Awesome pics, I wish something like that existed when I was younger...

Anyone know what kind of truck that is they are jumping out of?

Actually it exists now for adaults at behindlines.net. Except you jump off a deuce and a half.

we got a FORD pickup b/c it was in PA, not KS, but still fun

Posted: 3/1/2011 5:51:28 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm jealous that kid gets to run around with an SVDS.

Z

Don't be jealous. Last month you did similar thing. Rolled around in the snow and got to handle SVDS.

Just like a Spetznaz to sneak up out of nowhere and hit you when you least expect it

Salute Marco!

You're right though, I did get to do all that. I guess I shouldn't be jealous eh?

The class was amazing and I'm still thinking about it actually.

I was at the range last weekend showing a friend some of the techniques I learned with Che Drag and he was really impressed, probably like me I don't think he'd ever considered shooting a scoped rifle that fast against multiple targets. For sure my opinion of the Dragunov is permanently changed for the better...what you showed us was a real eye opener to me.

And speaking of rolling around in the snow with an SVDS, I have a line on a deact already, so maybe with a little luck I'll have an SVDS of my own ready for another class this year

Z

Posted: 3/1/2011 7:21:38 PM EDT

[#28]

Yeah, we're pretty much screwed. Our youth is too busy running in to me in the grocery store because they can't fucking stop texting when walking.

Posted: 3/2/2011 10:03:59 AM EDT

[#29]

Hey Zen and Nictra,

Check this out. Does this look familiar?

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2011/03/02/what-a-man-should-be-able-to-do/#more-38558

Posted: 3/2/2011 11:11:48 AM EDT

[#30]

yes, but there's not as much snow in those pics

Posted: 3/2/2011 1:23:22 PM EDT

[#31]

I bet the "Jumping From The Moving Truck" drill is followed closely by the "Calling For The Medic" Drill.

Posted: 3/2/2011 1:34:49 PM EDT

[#32]

If he's out of ammo shouldn't he be using the rifle to butt stroke the shovel guy senseless?

Posted: 3/2/2011 1:38:50 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c3e6q8bcn2QQ/x610.jpg

If he's out of ammo shouldn't he be using the rifle to butt stroke the shovel guy senseless?

who told you to think?

Posted: 3/2/2011 1:41:39 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c3e6q8bcn2QQ/x610.jpg

If he's out of ammo shouldn't he be using the rifle to butt stroke the shovel guy senseless?

who told you to think?

I ain't Russian. I do that from time to time.

Posted: 3/2/2011 1:49:28 PM EDT

[#35]

oh yea....I got all caught up in the moment.

Posted: 3/2/2011 5:25:57 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
Hey Zen and Nictra,

Check this out. Does this look familiar?

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2011/03/02/what-a-man-should-be-able-to-do/#more-38558

That does look pretty darn familiar

They have T72's, BMP's and SVD's (and SNOW for my wingman Nictra)....doesn't get much better than that.

Interestingly enough I noticed their rifles were completely or nearly completely camo'd, but I distinctly remember this one instructor at the Behind Lines class telling me to just camo the barrel of my NDM86 instead of the whole thing

Z

Posted: 3/2/2011 6:00:17 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Hey Zen and Nictra,

Check this out. Does this look familiar?

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2011/03/02/what-a-man-should-be-able-to-do/#more-38558

That does look pretty darn familiar

They have T72's, BMP's and SVD's (and SNOW for my wingman Nictra)....doesn't get much better than that.

Interestingly enough I noticed their rifles were completely or nearly completely camo'd, but I distinctly remember this one instructor at the Behind Lines class telling me to just camo the barrel of my NDM86 instead of the whole thing

That does ring a bell.....

Posted: 3/3/2011 5:17:05 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Hey Zen and Nictra,

Check this out. Does this look familiar?

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2011/03/02/what-a-man-should-be-able-to-do/#more-38558

That does look pretty darn familiar

They have T72's, BMP's and SVD's (and SNOW for my wingman Nictra)....doesn't get much better than that.

Interestingly enough I noticed their rifles were completely or nearly completely camo'd, but I distinctly remember this one instructor at the Behind Lines class telling me to just camo the barrel of my NDM86 instead of the whole thing

That does ring a bell.....

OH-oh! I have to reconsider the passing grade. Someone wasn't listening. As I recall I have mentioned something about the yhe action and front of the scope as well.

Posted: 3/3/2011 5:25:41 AM EDT

[#39]

damn...

Posted: 3/5/2011 4:30:49 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c3e6q8bcn2QQ/x610.jpg

If he's out of ammo shouldn't he be using the rifle to butt stroke the shovel guy senseless?

who told you to think?

I bet a muzzle punch to the face would make shovel-boy much easier to get along with.

Posted: 3/5/2011 6:11:58 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
OH-oh! I have to reconsider the passing grade. Someone wasn't listening. As I recall I have mentioned something about the yhe action and front of the scope as well.

lol

Touche' my friend, touche'

Hope to see you at another class this year

Z

Posted: 3/5/2011 8:23:26 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Meanwhile in the US; American kids get fat and worthless while playing Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare and using Tweeter about the next comic convention.

We are doomed; WE ARE RED SHIRT IN STAR TREK DOOMED.

Our only hope is to develop AI robots that can be controlled by our youths gaming skills.

Posted: 3/10/2011 4:26:26 AM EDT

[#43]

I might be a little old, but where do I sign up?

Posted: 3/13/2011 7:40:54 PM EDT

[#44]

Screw the Russians

American kids are fat and lazy because parents are fat and lazy!!!

My kids get real training, any stupid fuck can jump out of a truck

My kids shoot my Barrett 50 BMG as they laugh at 7.62x54

My son jumps out of a plane with Dad at 16

13,500ft