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Posted: 7/18/2008 1:22:57 PM EDT
I just bought a SA85M, FEG, KBI, etc. Very clean. I'd wanted one for a long time. I had a thumbhole SA85M many years ago but hated it's look and sold it.
This will be my 2nd AK and after sending my money I confirmed my reasoning for not buying another one sooner, which is I am ignorant of AKs and there is A LOT to know. I saw the slant brake and thought this a great price on a Hungarian, I'll take it! Press enter. Then I get more pics and notice no bayo lug or ears on the FSB for the cleaning rod. So know I have another semi neutered AK. I'm sure I'll be happy with it but aesthetically it is messing with me. So... My questions: 1. I paid $750 shipped, is this an OK price? 2. Can I remedy the lug/FSB issue without a financial hernia? That is, replace with non PC parts. Thanks for any help in advance. I hope this is the right AK forum, I've been on the AR forums for a while.  DAY51 +54 here or email [email protected] Thanks Buck_Naked! Anyone else with info on swapping parts out? Ditto to patriot73 and Mak Extremely helpful... The AK world is quite the maze to a newb! |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 8:38:46 PM EDT
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I was looking at the post of the AK I think you are talking about... make sure it has the correct US parts count... The KBI guns were post ban, and came with a thumbhole stock. It appears that the stock was changed out, but no mention was made of what other changes were made. I can't comment on the price to retrofit the gun.
One other thing, those SA85's came with two different gas length systems, and I believe that one had the shorter than standard version. As far as the price, it really depends on if the weapon is what you want. If you were to find a clean SA85m and do the conversion yourself, I think you would have more into the gun than what you paid for the gun in question. I am looking for an SA85m myself, and thought it was a very nice looking gun, but I decided to pass on that one... |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 12:23:05 PM EDT
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$750 is on the high side.
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Posted: 7/19/2008 4:25:36 PM EDT
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$750.00 is on the high side due to the fact the rifle was not completely converted from a postban rifle configuration. If it is the one off the EE, I saw it and the pictures showed the parts had not been changed out clearly. No bitching on that point.
The Ad  The thumbhole SA85M's are currently going for around $650.00 with no 922(r) US compliance parts installed. With the thumbhole stock installed no compliance parts are necessary but once the pistol grip configuration is done they are. It is the seller's responsibilty to make sure the rifle is legally configured. Is there any reason to believe it is not? Did this rifle have the 6 required compliance parts installed by the seller? If not, I would complain as it needed the parts installed to legally be in pistol grip configuration. If the parts are not there, I would contact the seller and ask for a reasonable price adjustment to cover a part of the compliance parts cost if they are missing. If it does have compliance parts then the value is not that bad. An adjustment of $50.00 would provide the compliance parts if needed. Or was it delivered with a thumbhole stock installed for legality purposes? The nuetered barrel parts are easily changed out with Romanian gas block and FSB which are available from Apex Gun Parts on a barrel stub for around $35.00 here. Here is one that I converted myself. Notice that this one has the short gas system and a bayonet can not be mounted. Due to that I used a SAR-1 nuetered gas block that allows for the cleaning rod retainer. I used a TAPCO G2 single hook FCG, US slant brake and US mag followers and baseplates for the compliance parts.  How it looked originally.  |
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Posted: 7/23/2008 5:55:58 AM EDT
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Thanks Buck_Naked!
Ditto to patriot73 and Mak Extremely helpful... The AK world is quite the maze to a newb  |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 4:11:52 PM EDT
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If I have inferred correctly from your posts, you apparently thought you were buying a pre-ban SA 85 for $750, which would have been a screaming deal. Instead, you got a messed-with SA 85M which is non-compliant with the law, and you paid $300 too much. The seller should have disclosed what the gun actually was and any problems such as 922. The Hungarian SA 85s are great traditional AKMs, but I would pay more for an original one than an altered one. In other words, I would want to do the altering. I would be very upset about this deal if I were you.
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