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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:18:31 PM EDT
[#1]
   Both. If I had to go with just one........ Don't know if I can. The '74 is lighter, more accurate, and from what I understand plenty powerful. The '47 is built like truck, hits hard, is cheap to shoot, and usually accurate "enough" for business. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:20:08 PM EDT
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I'm no AK expert but ill take a stab at the question. Corrections welcome from the AK experts. The 74 is a more effective cartridge at longer distance and probably more accurate. Now the 47 has more penetration incase its a SHTF scenario and penetration matters. Thats my guesstimate. For me i would go with a AR for .223 caliber gun, my RRA is SUPER accurate and the 47 for the power/penetration/reliability.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:23:32 PM EDT
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Nice rifles Templar! and thanks for the responses..........the reason I asked is from a standpoint of if you were in a situation of being able to only have one due to financial reasons or logistics. I have both, but I would have a tough time deciding which to let go and which to keep
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:28:24 PM EDT
[#4]
For me i would choose the 47, but im sure its more personal preference.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:31:16 PM EDT
[#5]
Keep the one that has the most mags and ammo ... 
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:31:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Ok then......only one? AK-47 in 7.62x39mm. Ammo is produced domestically, magazines are everywhere, and if you needed to 7.62x39mm with the right bullet is fine white tail, wild boar, looter, and black bear medicine. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:56:12 PM EDT
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Well all I own is 1 AK and it's a 5.45mm. Love the caliber but also want to own an AKM type.
I've had chances at both a pre-89 Hungarian FEG full stock and underfolder before. It didn't have the cash on me though. 
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:01:11 PM EDT
[#8]
What is the big deal of a pre89 AK?
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:02:15 PM EDT
[#9]
For a Combat arm it is hard to beat the 74, ZERO recoil, Fast & accurate shooter.
For my personel use I give the nod to the 47 because the .30 cal round is much more flexible, You can use it just as easily to take most US big game as you can use it in Combat. So in true arfcom fashion I have a few of both 
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:02:44 PM EDT
[#10]
No need for US parts, it's a factory built rifle by the people who've been doing it since they got the tooling and drawings from Russia, and they're always "in spec". |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:06:16 PM EDT
[#11]
so are a lot of todays rifle out of spec? Like aresenal or builds done in US.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:11:09 PM EDT
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All of the stamped receivers made here in the USA have some issues, some much less than others. The best stamped receivers are the foreign military grade ones like the FEG, Romanian (original double stack), Yugoslavian, and Chinese. They are also all properly heat treated. The SLR-105 from Arsenal Inc. are brought in as "sporting rifles" and then modified to take the standard military magazines. Century does the same things with the WASR line, but not as well. The milled receivers made by The Firing Line in OK and the M5 and M7 series from Arsenal Inc. are top notch works of art, but you pay for them. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 5:17:58 PM EDT
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If i could only keep one of my AKs, it would be the AKS-74. Its simply awesome to shoot. Low recoil, virtually no muzzle climb, and its very very fast with the kobra.
I also have a SAR-1 and SAR-3, but i havent shot the 3 yet. If its similar to the 74 it will probably take the #2 spot. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 5:33:23 PM EDT
[#14]
If I could only keep one it would be a AK74..... While some may state penetration, matters.. It does but also I want range and low recoil for follow up shots. The AK74 gives you that.IMO
 WarDawg
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Posted: 9/11/2005 5:42:37 PM EDT
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Short barrel, 7.62 x 39. Long barrel 5.45 x 39, loss of speed is more critical in the 5.45 round, so make your pistols 74 based, and your rifles 5.45.
That said, for wound potential, the 5.45, for all other uses, the 7.62. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 5:48:08 PM EDT
[#16]
7.62x39
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Posted: 9/11/2005 6:28:51 PM EDT
[#17]
I'd have to say 7.62x39
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:42:36 PM EDT
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I say keep the one that you shoot the best.
Take one out to the range and run 500 rounds through it at various ranges. Later that week take the other one out and do the same thing. One will probably "feel" more right for you. Otherwise, tuck one under each arm and charge the enemy position with reckless abandon. "Wolverines!!" |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 8:01:32 PM EDT
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Ak's are like Lays chips, You can't have just one. But if "pigs fly" and I could only have one, it would be 7.62 (more parts/mags/ammo in the states)
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Posted: 9/11/2005 8:30:38 PM EDT
[#20]
74 for me. If you need more power go with 308. CB
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Posted: 9/11/2005 9:00:13 PM EDT
[#21]
I'd have to go with the AK-74.
More accurate Lighter Rifle Lighter Ammo (easier to carry in volume!!) Lighter recoil Faster follow-up shots But you have to get rid of that loud...,, flash blinding..., ugly ass..., POS AK-74 Muzzle brake!! I threw that POS Brake shit away & put a Phantom 5C1 on mine & it's Awesome!! A great set-up is to have someone cut your AK-74 barrel down & permently attach a good Flash hider to total length of 16.25". With a folding stock this is a awesomely compact, accurate & fast action little shooter!!! I have 2 set up that way. A Bulgy AK-74, and Romanian SAR-2 . I hardly ever shoot my AR's any more..., with the exception of Varmint hunting..., where my AR-15 is King! But for "Shoot-em-up" my 74's are the ones!!!   |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 9:08:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2005 9:14:22 PM EDT
[#23]
AK-105 fits most of that description. 
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Posted: 9/11/2005 9:37:11 PM EDT
[#24]
AK-47 here cheap in all respects ammo is more available and hits hard. If I want longer punch I have full size rifles. Ergonomics are the same weight difference is miniscule and accessories other than mags are pretty much interchangable.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 9:59:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Now that's what I'm talk'in about!!!! Well done No1here!! 
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Posted: 9/11/2005 10:17:54 PM EDT
[#26]
If I HAD to chose, I'd go with an AK-74. I'm more accuate with an AK-74 varient than compared with an AR-15, so its kind of an easy choice.
However, I still love the AKM. I don't really care for milled AKs..... except for the old Soviet wood 
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Posted: 9/12/2005 12:11:28 AM EDT
[#28]
In a situation I would take either over an AR. Had to be done.
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Posted: 9/12/2005 3:18:49 AM EDT
[#29]
I'd take a FAL.
But seriously, if I could only own one, I would probably take a '74. I love my '74, I'm deadly accurate with it to at least 400yds (farthest I've shot it), virtually no recoil, and fun as hell to shoot. I like my CAR15, but I can't shoot it nearly as good as my '74. And 5.45x39 is only slightly more expensive than 7.62x39. I have more faith in 7.62x39 than 5.45x39 or 5.56x45 as a man-stopper, but I can make better hits with the 5.45x39, and that's what really counts. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 5:00:28 AM EDT
[#30]
================ Correct view, IMHO on the original Warsaw pact-era MB. As for my choice, it's neither an"AK47 or "AK74", it's my new 5.56mm SAM5S. I love this rifle! Accurate, utterly reliable and with the Vortex installed, flash is outta here. When Arsenal comes out with a remake of the AK74M1A1 that will definitely be a hands down winner. Right now, the SAM5S has the new suppressor-capable USN MK48 LWMG Vortex. AK-specific units (5.45, 5.56 & 7.62mm) a few weeks out. Mil gets them first. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 10:30:27 AM EDT
[#31]
74
virtually no recoil for hosing bullets about On Target, good varmint round, much flatter path past 200yds, most good 74s are around 2moa, while 47s are more likely 3moa |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 10:51:37 AM EDT
[#32]
Mr. Kalashnikov would Pimp smack sooooo hard after hearing a question like that! 47 of course!!
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Posted: 9/12/2005 10:51:44 AM EDT
[#33]
AK 47
1. mags 2. ammo 3. power 4. Accuracy is not steller but good enough. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 11:06:05 AM EDT
[#34]
Tough choice. I enjoy shooting both but if I had to chose only one it would be the 74.
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Posted: 9/12/2005 1:22:52 PM EDT
[#35]
I have yet to even shoot a 5.45mm X 39mm....
That said, I choose 7.62mm. Because: That's what the original Kalashnikov rifle was designed to use. Kalashnikov himself likes the 47 above the 74. Ammo is cheap and readily available. the .30 caliber round has FAR better ballistics out of a short barrel..and I like carbines I have several AR15's so it's nice to have a .30 cal. battle rifle around I would sooner grab an AR15 before I would an AK74. But with an AK47 it would be a matter of which is closer. I believe the person behind the trigger has as much to do with a weapons accuracy as the caliber bullet it fires. If accuracy is paramount, I would use a scoped Remington 700 instead of a battle rifle, AR15 included. I like the sound of 7.62mm reports. I like the THUMP I feel when I fire a 7.62mm. I'm sure there's more, but that's what comes to mind first. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 2:13:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Isnt the 105 illegal in the states even with the muzzle break fixed permently?
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Posted: 9/12/2005 2:16:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Wouldn't matter about the muzzle brake, I don't think. I mean we don't even get a 5,45mm Saiga. Plus the fact, it has a folding stock, pistol grip and threaded FSB. Which are features not allowed on imported AK's. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 2:25:10 PM EDT
[#38]
What im saying is if you built the gun yourself would it be legal length?
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Posted: 9/13/2005 9:34:38 AM EDT
[#39]
You'd need a extended brake to make it to 16 inch length. The regular AK-105 barrel is 12 inches. Then the length of the Krinkov muzzle attachment is 3.12 inches long. So it'd come close to 15 inches but it'd need a little more. |
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Posted: 9/13/2005 9:59:17 AM EDT
[#40]
I have shot 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 at about 3/8" steel. Neither penetrated, and both left very similar depressions. With penetration being equal, I give the nod to the 74 as my choice. I really enjoy the 74. I have a fair amount of ammo for it. But, ammo resupply will always be easier for the 47.
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Posted: 9/13/2005 10:07:29 AM EDT
[#41]
i haven't had any experience with the 74, but it doesn't have the same effect to me...name wise.
i mean, you say "ak-47" and everyone knows your evil. no questions asked. sure, they hear ak.. but people are stupid about guns and the 74 throws them off. i've heard that the 74 is more accurate, lighter, and over all better. but for classics sake, i have a special place for the 47 |
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Posted: 9/13/2005 10:37:14 AM EDT
[#42]
Well you dont have an AK-47 either.  (unless you are filthy rich, and have a real AK-47, in which case i would hate you and be extremely jealous) If its stamped its an AKM clone, milled AK-47 clone. Calling anything that shoots 7.62 an AK-47 is something out of CNNs playbook. |
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Posted: 9/13/2005 11:47:54 AM EDT
[#43]
true, but in that case, the entire question is bogus from the start. when you are overlooking that, the point still remains. the namesake goes with the ak-47 and their clones. |
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Posted: 9/13/2005 12:04:48 PM EDT
[#44]
I know, just given ya a little hell. I've gotten the blank stare  when i tell someone 74 as well.
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Posted: 9/13/2005 12:24:44 PM EDT
[#45]
What's even better is when some dickweed at the range asks "Whutcha shootin' thar?" and you reply "A semi-auto AK-74" and he chuckles and says, "Ya mean uh Aaayyy Kayyy Fahrty Sevuhn!" then shakes his head condescendingly because you don't even know what kind of rifle you have.
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Posted: 9/13/2005 12:32:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2005 5:20:08 PM EDT
[#47]
I choose the 47.
Aren't the 74 much louder with their brakes than the 47? |
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Posted: 9/13/2005 6:07:10 PM EDT
[#48]
I like the 74 alot, but the 47 is a close second.
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Posted: 9/13/2005 6:09:56 PM EDT
[#49]
Muzzle brake makes any gun louder. 74 is fairly extreme though. As is my 47 with fixed brake. |
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Posted: 9/14/2005 3:59:33 PM EDT
[#50]
Milled AKs look good but I like the AKM more too. Nothing beats Russian AK furniture. |
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