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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:01:52 PM EDT
[#1]
How was the accuracy with the Gold Bear ammo?
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Posted: 9/5/2004 8:20:46 PM EDT
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I'll try to do accuracy and chronograph testing later. I just had time for some quick blasting today.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 8:21:40 PM EDT
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How much does it cost and where did you buy?
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Posted: 9/6/2004 3:58:17 AM EDT
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Since I live in southern Illinois and have a FFL I picked it up at the importers warehouse (Zanders Sporting Goods). It is 9% higher than Silver Bear.
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Posted: 9/6/2004 7:45:33 AM EDT
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AIM has it in some calibers as well.
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Posted: 9/7/2004 9:36:43 PM EDT
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Not sure on 223 but AIM surplus was running 7.62x39 at 59.99/500 I think. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 3:02:22 AM EDT
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That's rather pricey for possible Barnaul made ammo. :(
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Posted: 9/8/2004 3:19:37 AM EDT
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Tagged
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Posted: 9/12/2004 10:21:26 PM EDT
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No possible thing about it... its Barnaul made.
Good ammo too... And the price is not bad... Y- |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 1:32:11 AM EDT
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IIRC "Bear" is made by several different manufacturers, one of which is Barnaul.
If this batch was indeed made by Barnaul, it's good stuff but still not good as the actual Barnaul ammo that is out of stock everywhere. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 4:02:26 AM EDT
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What is your basis for this? |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 9:03:24 AM EDT
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Your ammo test. It showed Barnaul made Silver Bear "Match" as being less accurate than Barnaul made "Barnaul" FMJ.
Granted there are a lot of variables to consider that can account for the few tenths difference, but Silver Bear Match, from your tests, wasn't as consistent as the equivalent Barnaul FMJ. In any case, I read on AK47.Net that the "Bear" ammo isn't all made by Barnaul. There are other factories that produce the Bear series (Golden, Brown, Silver, Purple, Teal, Torquise, Fuschia, etc... :D ) You can probably ask Devil Dog or YODA from AK47.Net And the other sure-fire way to tell is by using a Chronograph and testing accuracy. Barnaul tends to use a hotter charge, chronographing approx 2400+ fps muzzle velocities (7.62x39). Compare notes with data from other Russian import ammo and you can have some very useful data to tell which Bear ammo made by whichever company is the most desirable. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 4:01:27 PM EDT
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Ok, I see where you are comming from now.
Remember, the tests are only an example of accuracy. That is the only claim we make. Some here still prefer and buy Wolf. I have bought some Wolf HP since the test when I found it for $55/ 1000. I just bought a case of Silver bear match a month ago on sale ($65/1000) and saw on thebox it was made by Uly. I haven't tried it yet. This has been the worst year for shooting I can remember. Just because the Silver Bear match and brown Bear SP were not as good as regular Barnaul does not mean the other Bear colors are not as good. I do have a soft spot for regular Barnaul though. I would like to try them all out, but I think it would be a never ending cycle. There are a lot of colors left out there...... I do not know Dvil Dog, but have had run-ins with yoda. There is a reson the dumbass stays away. |
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Posted: 9/19/2004 11:00:46 AM EDT
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On this thread, we are talking about Golden Bear .223 right? If yes... and yes... we are, why talk about velocities you read on AK47.nutz about 7.62x39?
Oh, and BTW, I can say well beyond a shadow of doubt that the Golden Bear .223, in fact...any of the Golden Bear rifle ammo is made by the Barnaul Machine Tool Plant... Hope this helps. Y- |
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