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Posted: 6/29/2003 10:13:04 PM EDT
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The Bezel diameter of the G2 is the same as the 6P.
Other dimensions are very similar. Al |
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Posted: 6/30/2003 5:46:09 AM EDT
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I'm not sure which way/how the light fits in your paddle, but don't forget that the G2 doesn't have a lockout tailcap. (If the switch end bottoms out in the paddle it might turn on.)
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Posted: 7/2/2003 5:56:07 AM EDT
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Results of my G2 vs. 6P compatibility tests:
1. A 6P bezel lanyard ring fit this G2 light just fine. 2. A 6P lockout tailcap did not fit. I couldn't thread the tailcap past the G2's O-ring. 3. I tried the reverse - put the G2 tailcap on a 6P. Doing this made it clear that the G2 tailcap I.D. is larger than for a 6P tailcap. I could feel no contact resistance with the 6P's O-ring as I screwed on the G2 tailcap. 4. My 6P SureFire tipoff filters don't fit the G2. My micrometer calipers weren't handy but a visual comparison with a 6P bezel shows that the G2's bezel is definitely larger in diameter vs. a 6P. Fortunately, I had a spare 6P bezel just laying around, and the 6P bezel fits onto my G2. So this looks like one workaround if you want to use 6P tipoff filters on a G2 handheld SureFire. 5. The G2's bezel also works on a 6P if you want a polymer, anti-rolling bezel on your 6P for some reason (and don't use a SureFire filter). jvn |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:14:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: 4. My 6P SureFire tipoff filters don't fit the G2. My micrometer calipers weren't handy but a visual comparison with a 6P bezel shows that the G2's bezel is definitely larger in diameter vs. a 6P. This matches my experiences with using a G2 bezel side down in the V70 polymere holster. It will fit tailcap first - but not lamp first (while the 6P will fit either way). 5. The G2's bezel also works on a 6P if you want a polymer, anti-rolling bezel on your 6P for some reason (and don't use a SureFire filter). And the Z32 anti-shock Bezel will fit on either. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 9:21:16 AM EDT
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And the Z32 anti-shock Bezel will fit on either. So I can get the G2, it will probably fit tail down in my paddle, and if it doesnt, I can put it on the truck gun with the Z32 and put my 6P back in the paddle? I'm in. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 11:35:24 AM EDT
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Depends on what your "truck gun" is.
Light-recoiling AR? Probably can get away with it. Shotgun? Probably a bad idea (esp. if you are actually going to live fire practice using the light). The dedicated weaponlights have a rim machined at the top of the flashlight body that prevents the batteries from impacting the lamp during recoil. A G2 (as well as a 6P) lacks this rim. Lamp longevity can be compromised. jvn |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:07:23 AM EDT
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The G2's can use the tip-off filters they just take a little more effort. And, the G2's will also go in bezel down in the V70 with the normal effort you would want it secured with. The hard polymer construction of the V70 also protects the G2 from accidental activation if being carried body down. Forest, you should give SureFire a call and discuss your G2/V70 problem. Knowing SF's customer service I feel confident they'll correct your problem. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:23:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: Forest, you should give SureFire a call and discuss your G2/V70 problem. Knowing SF's customer service I feel confident they'll correct your problem. Thanks for the info B.F. - but it just isn't worth the time for me. Up till recently I had only used a 6P in my V70 - and I usually store my lights button down in it anyway; so to me its not a big deal if my G2's don't fit bezel down, I just wanted to test to see show compatible everything was. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 8:17:26 AM EDT
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Perhaps if I used a bigger hammer, I could have gotten my tipoff filters to fit my G2. But I couldn't get a filter to fit using reasonable hand force and patience.
Bottom line is that the G2 bezel has a larger diameter than the 6P, and it can be a source of incompatibility. I personally do not want to stretch my gear and then have a fit problem when I try to use it on properly-dimensioned equipment. I would prefer that the manufacturer QC their products and produce gear with compatible dimensions from the beginning. A bigger hammer is NOT the solution. jvn |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 10:43:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: Perhaps if I used a bigger hammer, I could have gotten my tipoff filters to fit my G2. But I couldn't get a filter to fit using reasonable hand force and patience... A bigger hammer is NOT the solution. Reasonable hand force was used and no hammer was involved. I will admit it doesn't just slide on with no effort but honestly, they don't slide on much easier with C2 or C3's I have in use. I'm also not concerned about stretching it out to the point of not fitting my other lights. Considering the differences in fit between the aluminum bezel & the Nitrolon bezel that I've had experience with and the rubber they're using for the 1.25" filters I don't believe there's much cause for concern about them stretching out to the point of being nontransferable. I'm not denying you have fitting problems. Considering both you & Forest have had similar problems makes me wonder if perhaps SF has tightened the tolerances with the more recent production Nitrolons? All I'm trying to say is that what I've been witnessing is that there currently don't seem to be any fit issues (and let's hope it stays that way). Product compatability & equivalant performance is one of the nicest features of the more affordable G2 Nitrolon. JvN, like I recommended to Forest, if that issue is bothersome to you contact SF customer service and talk to them. They've encountered most everything (though DevL might cme up with something new) and I know they try to be as helpful as possible. If that doesn't work for you then drop me a note. Thanks, BF |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 2:29:48 PM EDT
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I probably will contact SF.
Even if you can get a tipoff filter to fit, that is only part of the problem. I like to use a bezel-down kydex carrier for my handheld lights. I had expected that the G2 and 6P would be interchangeable, but they are not. If I want to carry a G2, I have to adjust my kydex carrier to accommodate the larger bezel diameter. Otherwise, the draw is unacceptably difficult. And we haven't even discussed the G2 vs. 6P tailcap incompatibility issue, which sadly prevents me from using a spare 6P lockout tailcap on the G2. As it is now, the G2 is relegated to home use only. jvn |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 4:12:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: And we haven't even discussed the G2 vs. 6P tailcap incompatibility issue, which sadly prevents me from using a spare 6P lockout tailcap on the G2. That's apparently the one aspect where they drawed the line. They didn't want to just specialize in $29 flashlights, it's kind of like a Ford/Lincoln or Toyota/Lexus deal. The G2 is considered an 'intro' model but thankfully it packs a lot of punch!!!!! |
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