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Holosun has really peaked my interest for replacing my Eotechs. I'll probably buy one of the HS503's for now, but when these come out, I intend to buy one, maybe two. Has anyone had any hands-on experience with them? I know a guy on Youtube has a short review on all of Holosun's 2015 products and the Tridot was physically in his hands... I spoke to Wayne at Holosun via email and he said it may be up to 6 months before they are released. They look awesome and the features for each one are really neat: <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/turbocivic_01/media/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-16-638_zps2azpt52v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/turbocivic_01/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-16-638_zps2azpt52v.jpg</a> <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/turbocivic_01/media/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-15-638_zpsppk4xxgy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/turbocivic_01/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-15-638_zpsppk4xxgy.jpg</a> View Quote If the price is right ill trying for sure. I wonder about the durability. |
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Holosun has really peaked my interest for replacing my Eotechs. I'll probably buy one of the HS503's for now, but when these come out, I intend to buy one, maybe two. Has anyone had any hands-on experience with them? I know a guy on Youtube has a short review on all of Holosun's 2015 products and the Tridot was physically in his hands... I spoke to Wayne at Holosun via email and he said it may be up to 6 months before they are released. They look awesome and the features for each one are really neat: <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/turbocivic_01/media/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-16-638_zps2azpt52v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/turbocivic_01/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-16-638_zps2azpt52v.jpg</a> <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/turbocivic_01/media/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-15-638_zpsppk4xxgy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/turbocivic_01/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-15-638_zpsppk4xxgy.jpg</a> If the price is right ill trying for sure. I wonder about the durability. Can't be any worse than EOTech |
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Holosun has really peaked my interest for replacing my Eotechs. I'll probably buy one of the HS503's for now, but when these come out, I intend to buy one, maybe two. Has anyone had any hands-on experience with them? I know a guy on Youtube has a short review on all of Holosun's 2015 products and the Tridot was physically in his hands... I spoke to Wayne at Holosun via email and he said it may be up to 6 months before they are released. They look awesome and the features for each one are really neat: <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/turbocivic_01/media/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-16-638_zps2azpt52v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/turbocivic_01/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-16-638_zps2azpt52v.jpg</a> <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/turbocivic_01/media/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-15-638_zpsppk4xxgy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/turbocivic_01/catalog-holosun-optics-trade-2015-15-638_zpsppk4xxgy.jpg</a> If the price is right ill trying for sure. I wonder about the durability. Can't be any worse than EOTech Lol. I was going to go there but I didn't want to derail another thread and get accused of being some EOtech hater. I just want an EOtech reticle with Aimpoint durability and battery life. I'd sell every red dot I own for a dot that could deliver that. |
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I wonder why they're still going with the 8 hour auto shutoff.
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I wonder why they're still going with the 8 hour auto shutoff. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Preserves emitter life Quoted:
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I don't think anything Holosun is going to kill eotech Ditto. No other holographic sight has been put to test as much as Eotech. Yes they have their problems but comparing holosun to an eotech is a pretty far stretch imho. I guess you've missed the big threads and lawsuit. Every single EOTech ever made is defective. They all suffer POI shift as the temperature changes, lose the nitrogen purge and are vulnerable to water/humidity. |
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Preserves emitter life I guess you've missed the big threads and lawsuit. Every single EOTech ever made is defective. They all suffer POI shift as the temperature changes, lose the nitrogen purge and are vulnerable to water/humidity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't think anything Holosun is going to kill eotech Ditto. No other holographic sight has been put to test as much as Eotech. Yes they have their problems but comparing holosun to an eotech is a pretty far stretch imho. I guess you've missed the big threads and lawsuit. Every single EOTech ever made is defective. They all suffer POI shift as the temperature changes, lose the nitrogen purge and are vulnerable to water/humidity. Exactly. EOtech is a military grade sight that isn't military grade. The only reason it has the die hard followers that it does is due to it being used, despite its multiple issues, by the pros. If EOtech came out today with everything we know about the sights people on this site would say it's a range toy at best. They'd treat it just like holosun which is funny since holosun doesn't even seem to have the EOtech issues. |
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Exactly. EOtech is a military grade sight that isn't military grade. The only reason it has the die hard followers that it does is due to it being used, despite its multiple issues, by the pros. If EOtech came out today with everything we know about the sights people on this site would say it's a range toy at best. They'd treat it just like holosun which is funny since holosun doesn't even seem to have the EOtech issues. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't think anything Holosun is going to kill eotech Ditto. No other holographic sight has been put to test as much as Eotech. Yes they have their problems but comparing holosun to an eotech is a pretty far stretch imho. I guess you've missed the big threads and lawsuit. Every single EOTech ever made is defective. They all suffer POI shift as the temperature changes, lose the nitrogen purge and are vulnerable to water/humidity. Exactly. EOtech is a military grade sight that isn't military grade. The only reason it has the die hard followers that it does is due to it being used, despite its multiple issues, by the pros. If EOtech came out today with everything we know about the sights people on this site would say it's a range toy at best. They'd treat it just like holosun which is funny since holosun doesn't even seem to have the EOtech issues. I've seen the threads and am sending my Eotech back. What I meant is if you replace all issued Eotechs in use with holosuns I'd guarantee there would be more issues to arise. |
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Preserves emitter life I guess you've missed the big threads and lawsuit. Every single EOTech ever made is defective. They all suffer POI shift as the temperature changes, lose the nitrogen purge and are vulnerable to water/humidity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder why they're still going with the 8 hour auto shutoff. Preserves emitter life Quoted:
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I don't think anything Holosun is going to kill eotech Ditto. No other holographic sight has been put to test as much as Eotech. Yes they have their problems but comparing holosun to an eotech is a pretty far stretch imho. I guess you've missed the big threads and lawsuit. Every single EOTech ever made is defective. They all suffer POI shift as the temperature changes, lose the nitrogen purge and are vulnerable to water/humidity. Not accurate. Every Eotech sold by L3 has been defective, as they jacked up their capability claims without any associated reengineering. Pre purchase by E3, Eotech met its advertised capabilities. |
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Goddammt guys...can we please not make this ANOTHER Eotech thread...if it's a tech comparison, cool, otherwise I would really like to keep this about Holosun.
There isn't a ton of info out about these specific sights so I'd like to keep this thread focused towards that direction... |
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Goddammt guys...can we please not make this ANOTHER Eotech thread...if it's a tech comparison, cool, otherwise I would really like to keep this about Holosun. There isn't a ton of info out about these specific sights so I'd like to keep this thread focused towards that direction... View Quote Because those specific sights are just about brand new. No one knows anything about them. I haven't seem them at any retailer. ETA: Actually, you said it yourself. They haven't even been released. Can't really give any info on something that's not out. It could look awesome on paper and perform horribly in real life under certain conditions (like EOTech ) |
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Quoted: Because those specific sights are just about brand new. No one knows anything about them. I haven't seem them at any retailer. ETA: Actually, you said it yourself. They haven't even been released. Can't really give any info on something that's not out. It could look awesome on paper and perform horribly in real life under certain conditions (like EOTech ) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Goddammt guys...can we please not make this ANOTHER Eotech thread...if it's a tech comparison, cool, otherwise I would really like to keep this about Holosun. There isn't a ton of info out about these specific sights so I'd like to keep this thread focused towards that direction... Because those specific sights are just about brand new. No one knows anything about them. I haven't seem them at any retailer. ETA: Actually, you said it yourself. They haven't even been released. Can't really give any info on something that's not out. It could look awesome on paper and perform horribly in real life under certain conditions (like EOTech ) Agreed, but there has to be some guys out there that have used them/experimented/tested. I'll post the video from YouTube when I get off of my phone where he has the Tridot in his hands. Judging on that video alone, there has to be a handful of them out there and hopefully this thread will draw some of those individuals in that have actually handled one...this is more so what I meant... |
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Meprolight Tru-Dot RDS: Holosun is great for cheap optics and feeding the ChiComm budget |
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I wonder why they're still going with the 8 hour auto shutoff. View Quote THIS. I think HS needs to be more careful with their ad wording. I have the 503c and was kind of let down by some expectations. I LOVE the sight... but it's not exactly as described. First of all, the "always on" is simply not true. It WILL time out after about 8-10 hrs (goes dark). How is that "always on"? I wanted something that I did not have to find the power button on when grabbing in the night, and these are not it. Second, the "dual power" is not so. The 503C (which is also touted as "dual power") will NOT run w/o a battery. I can TOTALLY cut off all light (when in so called "solar mode") and there is STILL a (although faint) illuminated dot (it's just dimmer). Obviously, what they mean instead of "dual power" or "solar mode" is: "Solar regulating", meaning that when in "solar mode" it will regulate itself to use less battery power if the unit senses enough light to not warrant the extra battery juice. While "manual mode" is accurate, it's full on manual with no "regulation" outside of what power you set it to. Thirdly, that battery tray has to go. It is held in by the smallest screws known to man (kidding) and requires an "eye glasses repair kit" micro sized phillips screwdriver to move them (which is not supplied). I was fortunate to have a LM Wave multitool on me, which has that micro phillips head in it. Other than that... their circle dots are crisp, the reticle is a fantastic size, it's light, compact and a GREAT value (and I'm sure these HUD units would be as well). But..... I urge HS to have a tech person rewrite the advertising (and manual) to properly describe the functions. |
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The battery needs changing about once every 5 years or so depending on the use so just like a watch, the screws are small. Just use a mini screw driver with a longer handle if your hands have difficulties.
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THIS. I think HS needs to be more careful with their ad wording. I have the 503c and was kind of let down by some expectations. I LOVE the sight... but it's not exactly as described. First of all, the "always on" is simply not true. It WILL time out after about 8-10 hrs (goes dark). How is that "always on"? I wanted something that I did not have to find the power button on when grabbing in the night, and these are not it. Second, the "dual power" is not so. The 503C (which is also touted as "dual power") will NOT run w/o a battery. I can TOTALLY cut off all light (when in so called "solar mode") and there is STILL a (although faint) illuminated dot (it's just dimmer). Obviously, what they mean instead of "dual power" or "solar mode" is: "Solar regulating", meaning that when in "solar mode" it will regulate itself to use less battery power if the unit senses enough light to not warrant the extra battery juice. While "manual mode" is accurate, it's full on manual with no "regulation" outside of what power you set it to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder why they're still going with the 8 hour auto shutoff. THIS. I think HS needs to be more careful with their ad wording. I have the 503c and was kind of let down by some expectations. I LOVE the sight... but it's not exactly as described. First of all, the "always on" is simply not true. It WILL time out after about 8-10 hrs (goes dark). How is that "always on"? I wanted something that I did not have to find the power button on when grabbing in the night, and these are not it. Second, the "dual power" is not so. The 503C (which is also touted as "dual power") will NOT run w/o a battery. I can TOTALLY cut off all light (when in so called "solar mode") and there is STILL a (although faint) illuminated dot (it's just dimmer). Obviously, what they mean instead of "dual power" or "solar mode" is: "Solar regulating", meaning that when in "solar mode" it will regulate itself to use less battery power if the unit senses enough light to not warrant the extra battery juice. While "manual mode" is accurate, it's full on manual with no "regulation" outside of what power you set it to. The always on refers to the fact that there is a motion detection sensor in the optic so if you have it in the bag for months and pull it out, it will auto detect the ambient light, automatically turning on to use.. The 8 hours off is an auto off due to lack of motion- sleep mode. If you hold down the plus button three seconds, it will go manual and if you do the same again, it will go into automatic mode. Please read your user guide and it will explain all of this. There are also many good review videos that cover this feature. There is no reason you cannot achieve your goal of being always ready. Just put it into the right mode and it will be there to rock at a motion's notice. |
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Meprolight Tru-Dot RDS: http://www.themakogroup.com/meprolightmepro-tru-dot-rds.html Holosun is great for cheap optics and feeding the ChiComm budget View Quote There is nothing cheap about this optic. It just uses an LED technology that is efficient and costs less than the competitors. Less expensive doesn't mean less quality. |
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Its a beat of an optic. 3 meters deep submersion, keeps zero when dropped/taken off and put back on the rail, frozen, rough conditions...you name it. Of course, anything can break so its within reason but you get the idea.
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I'm pretty sure Eotech fell on it's own sword...
I'll trust my life to Aimpoint and Trijicon. |
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I replaced my Eotech 552 and 512s (3) with Holosun 515Cs.
So far, so good. |
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Quoted: Meprolight Tru-Dot RDS: http://www.themakogroup.com/meprolightmepro-tru-dot-rds.html Holosun is great for cheap optics and feeding the ChiComm budget View Quote |
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Just to nitpick, The EOTech is the ONLY actual HOLOGRAPHIC SIGHT out there right now.
ELCAN debuted one at SHOT 2016, but no word on price or actual availability yet. (Knowing ELCAN, it'll probably be 2-3x as much as an EOTech...) The holographic sight is not just a fancy way of saying "red-dot/reflex sight". The sight in a holographic sight is an actual hologram. The lens has a hologram etched into it, and it can only be illuminated by a laser diode. And the interference pattern in the lens when lit by the laser light projects a 3D virtual image of the dot or crosshairs with a depth and perceived distance of it floating in space 100 yards in front of the rifle. Making a much more simple reflex/red-dot sight square-ish in profile does not make it a holographic sight. Not to dump on the Holosun, for a Chinese made sight, the quality of the units we've seen so far seems to be up there, perhaps into Primary Arms territory. |
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After the continued Mako mag thread debacle I don't think I'll be going anywhere near anything Mako. Especially at that price View Quote Eh, Mako just resells stuff. The mags aren't made by the same guys as the optics. The thing I really like about the HS510C is that you can remove the riser and make it go lower. Very handy for guns with lower sight planes. I'll definitely be mounting one up on a 9mm PCC in the future. |
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