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Posted: 8/24/2005 5:41:50 PM EDT
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 Sure... thats a Surefire handguard, not a LaRue, but it will work with the LaRue too. It "may" not work with a Daniel Defense (it does on some but not on others, dont know why). |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 5:47:50 PM EDT
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Excellent, thanks! Any other pics???
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Posted: 8/24/2005 6:07:11 PM EDT
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You can mount it one slot further forward then this, but you won't be able to get the hand guards off on a middy.
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Posted: 8/24/2005 7:38:09 PM EDT
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No you cannot move it forward with a LaRue FF rail unless you have the LaRue EO mount.
The LaRue FF rail collar is to tall and you will not be able to mount the EO all the way down on the A3 rail in the fully forward position. I have 2 LaRue rails and it just wont work unless they made the collar smaller since I got mine. |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 8:01:23 PM EDT
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Oh jeez, sorry for the bad info there.... I "thought" I had done it before for someone else, but if you have them in hand and know they wont, I deffer to your experience over my memory.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 5:14:30 AM EDT
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you get the idea:
 
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Posted: 8/25/2005 5:22:08 AM EDT
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You betcha. The LaRue mount is the way to go.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 5:37:24 AM EDT
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I can mount my 552 directly on T-13, which is the last slot on the upper receiver. The sight goes over the barrel nut and the battery compartment actually sits on the LaRue 9.0 rail. I'm not sure about anyone elses rail collar ring but mine was not too tall to properly mount the EOTech.
It will also work mounted on the fore end rail but the carbine will balance better when the EOTech is placed closer to the center like I have it in the picture below. BTW, I've been told if your upper receiver rails are not machined to spec then you may not be able to mount and EOTech over the barrel nut. Maybe this is the issue that some folks are having.  It's a good thing CMT M4 upper receivers are done right, though I was also very careful with aligning the upper receiver rail to the top of the LaRue 9.0 rail when I installed it. Maybe I got lucky.  
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Posted: 8/25/2005 7:37:14 AM EDT
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You can mount an Eotech as far forward as you like.
I know this is not an AA Eotech but just to show.  www.csgunworks.com [email protected] Here’s some testimonials about CS GunWorks for AR15 Board What do YOU have to say about CS GunWorks |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 10:06:36 AM EDT
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Thanks everyone! Mike, I meant forward on the receiver.
So it's possible that people who have trouble making the eotech fit over their Larue forends, actually have an almost imperceptibly misaligned forend?? |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 10:21:56 AM EDT
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Possibly, but REALLY what is most likely going on is that their receiver is not true and square. The other problem could be that the internal mount in the EOTech is not perfectly square either. C4 |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 11:25:24 AM EDT
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It will work on a Daniel Defense if you have the 'new' style retaining nut. I have the 'new style' and it mounts like that just fine. The older style nuts were just big enough to interfer. However if you use a LaRue Mount with your EOTech you should have no worries either way:  |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 11:27:26 AM EDT
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That would certainly make sense. Tweak had a listing of flattop heights he had gathered over the years. Some of them certainly were on the 'low' side.
Possible, but also likely that their flattop's rails was a bit low (bad machining and/or forging die). |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 11:35:07 AM EDT
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CS, For the magnifier on that rifle, that magnifies your eotech, is there a quick release/arms throw for that? |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 11:50:23 AM EDT
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dsg2003gt: Are these M4 handguards? I did not know that the LaRue/Eotech-combo will fit over a M4 handguard? Walli |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 1:05:06 PM EDT
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The LT EOTech mount and EOTech will fit over the M4 HG's. C4 |
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Posted: 8/25/2005 4:51:00 PM EDT
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yes, they are and it should fit nicely over my troy mfr-c if grant gets them in.... 
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Posted: 8/25/2005 5:55:58 PM EDT
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Wow, OK maybe its just my rails then. Both my uppers are CMT M4 marked uppers. I got one from you Grant and another off the EE.
I know my rails are true to the upper. I'm anal when it comes to lining everything up. I've done so many that I rarely have to adjust my irons when I get to the range. This being that my front iron is on my FF rail. I'll take a pic and show you guys what I'm talking about. Give me a few minutes. Edit: OK here is what I'm talking about. First pic shows the EO nose tilted up.  Second pic shows my rail.  This rail is perfectly square. The EO is not I repeat not out of spec. The first unit I got was and this one replaced it due to that reason. This is why I said it would not work. I don't know why other then it hits the collar on the LaRue. |
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Posted: 8/26/2005 5:00:00 AM EDT
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Good pics Boom. It is my personal opinion that NO RECEIVER rails are perfectly square and true (all have SOME deviation in them). I also don't think the internal mount inside the EOTech is always 100% square. C4 |
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Posted: 8/26/2005 5:22:26 AM EDT
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Gentlemen thank you all.
BTW, the eotch 512 will NOT mount forward over standard Colt handguards, either. It's deceptive, as you can actually get the eotech mount to engage, but the nose/battery compartment is forced up, barely enough to notice, but enough to rule out the possibility. |
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Posted: 8/26/2005 6:15:09 AM EDT
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In other words, if you can mount it securely then just do it and don't worry about small imperfections. Zero the sight accordingly and test it to make sure it holds true and if does then you're good to go!
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Posted: 8/26/2005 7:29:40 AM EDT
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Yes. When LT makes their CNC upper receivers a lot of these issues will go away.... C4 |
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Posted: 8/26/2005 8:29:13 AM EDT
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I've no troubles mounting the EOTech fully forward on the receiver w/Colt M41A upper and Larue FF quad rails ~ no contact with the collar.
 I'm not using any rail panels ~ unsure if they would interfere (but likely could be cut to conform anyway). Cheers, Paje |
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Posted: 8/26/2005 8:46:15 AM EDT
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Grant, Have you gotten on ETA on when LaRue's uppers will be available. Last time I talked to someone at LaRue they wouldn't spill the beans on when their uppers and lowers(yes, they will be making lowers  ) will become available.Paje, Sweet looking twins! |
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Posted: 8/26/2005 9:06:43 AM EDT
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No date. C4 |
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