if you are getting two quality dot sights for one ACOG (and I am not arguing that you cant) yeah, you are missing something... magnification. The low magnification allows for better accuracy, target ID, light gatehring, range, bullet drop compensation, etc. If those things sound good to you, then yeah, I think it is worth it. If the shooting you do does not require those advantages or you just arent interested in them, then no, it is not worth it.

here is my current dilemma.....

I already have an Aimpoint M2 and Aimpoint ML2 on two different AR uppers.  This past weekend I ran a 3-gun match that had no rifle targets closer than 50yds.  The Aimpoint was not the best choice for that course of fire.  It worked once I could identify the targets.  {Failing light, silver targets, bad eyes}

I am stuggling with the fact that if there is an encounter in CQB that I will likely be able to score hits using an "aim down the barrel" sighting process.  However if a target is 80-100yds away I am sorely lacking the vision to identify and shoot those targets.

I like the looks of the ACOG with the Dr Optic backup reddot.  However, I may even do an ACOG with Dr. Optic and OTAL -- just to cover all the bases.

Are they worth $900?  Tritium and Fiber Optic illuminated reticle.  Super clear and bright glass.  Super compact chassis.  I think they are worth what we will pay for them.  If that is $900 than yes they are worth it.  I will probably try to barter for mine.

HTH.....

Is the ACOG really worth $900 bucks????

 

It is most definitely a yes.

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There have been several posts from people who have purchased or evaluated even more expensive scopes (for exampe, the US Optics SN-4), and, after comparing them to the ACOG, were disappointed in their optic.

There is no other scope that has the features and the quality of the ACOG at any price.  A BAC-equipped ACOG is simply the best combat optic that has ever been produced to date.

Now, what is that worth TO YOU?  I have no idea.

-Troy

Quoted: There have been several posts from people who have purchased or evaluated even more expensive scopes (for exampe, the US Optics SN-4), and, after comparing them to the ACOG, were disappointed in their optic. There is no other scope that has the features and the quality of the ACOG at any price.  A BAC-equipped ACOG is simply the best combat optic that has ever been produced to date. Now, what is that worth TO YOU?  I have no idea. -Troy

Troy:

What do you feel is the best setup to maximize CQB to mid range on a 5.56 platform?  Is it just the ACOG, or the ACOG and something else to back it up?

Simply your opinion.

Ed

Well, I must clarify something: The BAC feature doesn't work for everyone.  If you have cross-eye dominance issues or the like, you may have difficulty.  You need to both understand how BAC works AND it needs to work for you in order to get the benefit from the optic.  Also, note that the TA01-series ACOGs don't have a BAC reticle, and only work like a conventional scope.

During high-speed transitional shooting (such as CQB), a BAC ACOG works kind of like an OEG or a red dot with the cap closed, meaning you keep both eyes open; one eye looks at the optic and sees the bright reticle, and the other eye sees the target, and your brain takes the binocular image and merges them into one, so that you "see" the bright reticle on the target.  (This is why BAC works best with RED illumination; it contrasts better against almost anything in the environment than amber does, despite amber being a bit brighter.)  Note that you are still able to actually SEE through the optic, even during rapid movement, unlike an OEG, and your brain will actually trick you into thinking that the scope picture isn't actually magnified.

Now, anytime you "come to a stop" on a target, your brain automatically focuses on the magnified picture, and you suddenly can tell you're looking at a magnified image.  You can make out excellent detail, and due to the great quality glass, you have additional contrast that helps you see things you simply couldn't see without a magnified optic.

The end result is that you get the benefits of a magnified optic AND the benefits of a non-magnified red dot optic in one unit, and there's no controls or adjustments the user has to make to transition from one to the other.  It just WORKS.  (Trijicon has a Flash demo on their website that kind of shows what I'm talking about.)

If you have a BAC ACOG, IMO you don't need any other optic on your rifle.  Yes, I know that 3-Gun people often add a dot optic, but remember that 3-Gun is a GAME, and that problems in a game only cost you points.  I do recommend back-up irons on ANY fighting rifle, though.  Weather conditions can make ANY optic unusable, and in those situations, iron sights may be your only workable solution.

If I could afford it, I would add a couple more TA31s and a couple TA11s to my gear.  And, in fact, WHEN I can afford to do so, I will.  Unless you need to shoot long distances (beyond 500m) or your idea of shooting means tiny groups on paper, then a BAC ACOG is as good as it gets.



-Troy

We had some TA31 in stock and now we have only ONE!  It is not $900 Bucks.

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Quoted: But what do I know, I just play airsoft on the weekends.

 Is that what we're calling it now?

-Troy

Quoted: I played around with a buddy of mines and it was pretty cool.  I like how the fiber optic cable draws so much light into the scope.  Tritium is cool, but wears out after years.   So basically in 6 or 7 years I would have to replace the scope.   I really like the ACOG the best out of what I have seen out there and tried, but cant bring myself to pay so dang much for it.... oh well.   thanks for all the input fellas...

The Tritium will actually last 12-15 years. By the time it does where out, Trijicon will have something better out any ways!


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... except for the smaller size, stronger construction, and much larger field of view.  But BAC is what makes the ACOG "magic", and no other optic has it at any price.

-Troy