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Posted: 9/19/2003 8:16:58 AM EDT
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[inthemarketforanOpticmode]Really now? Hmmmmn...
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Posted: 9/19/2003 8:38:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: For those of you keep on asking about the Tri-power, tri-power, and tri-power. I got some news for ya.. Trijicon will be releasing the Tri-power in the next month or so. This will be the initial release of what they call the civilian model. this model will not have the NV compatibility, there will be muzzle side signature so you can see the leak from the other side. but the rest will be pretty much as advertised. the model still retain the plastic body from the back of the objective lens and it has all the controls on the top. they have change the red to amber on the Chevron reticle and the blue tint is not as noticeable. the military model will follow but there is no firm release date on those. Hope this will shade some light on the Tri-Power for those that have been patiently waiting. After no longer being able to wait I finally buy and ML2 and look what happens. Got a price for these try-powers. I'm still not 100% convinced but you would know more than just about anybody |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 9:07:35 AM EDT
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I did not ask for any price.
You are much better off with the ML2, at least you don't have any signature leak from the muzzle side with the Aimpoint. if i have the choice between those two, I would take the Aimpoint in a heart beat. |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 9:29:57 AM EDT
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Blue tint still there then eh? I will pass...
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Posted: 9/19/2003 9:46:16 AM EDT
[#5]
I wonder how they finally got the lenses to seal with the plastic body and changes in temperature? Wonder if it is water tight?
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Posted: 9/19/2003 9:52:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: I wonder how they finally got the lenses to seal with the plastic body and changes in temperature? Wonder if it is water tight? I don't know, This first release will be the civilian model, I bet it is something they are going to release until they can work out all the bugs for the military. so maybe it will not have to deal with the extreme temp changes and water proofing. |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 12:59:58 PM EDT
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Maybe like a secret "beta" test. Let the public (guinea pigs) figure out what breaks the most.
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Posted: 9/19/2003 1:47:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Exactly, and I'm not about to pay good money to be in a Beta test program...
-Troy |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 2:06:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: [inthemarketforanOpticmode]Really now? Hmmmmn... Repeat after me....TA31.....TA31....TA31 |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 3:48:30 PM EDT
[#10]
The amber reticle is horrible. Why they bother using it is beyond me.
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Posted: 9/19/2003 4:07:54 PM EDT
[#11]
The amber reticle is horrible. Why they bother using it is beyond me. I hear you! And the Blue tint (if anything like the Reflex) is just as horrible. This sight is a solution looking for a problem. Aimpoint's are the only way to go if battery life is your main consern. Trijicon should have gotten their shit together before they tried to compete with Aimpoint. I too like how they plan on useing the general public as their "Guinea pigs"! |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 4:45:06 PM EDT
[#12]
Id sooner buy an Eotech...
[:D] |
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Posted: 9/20/2003 10:47:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: The amber reticle is horrible. Why they bother using it is beyond me. |
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Posted: 9/20/2003 12:24:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Because amber is brighter, and they have trouble gathering enough light with some of their designs to get the red ones bright enough. Amber also has more contrast against the blue tinted lens of the Reflex and Tri-Power.
Having said that, red IS the better color for a reticule, having more contrast against real-world objects and being less apt to wash out under the ubiquitous orange sodium streetlights in the US. -Troy |
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Posted: 9/20/2003 1:41:20 PM EDT
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Because amber is brighter, It provides a significantly better option for those of us that are colorblind. The only ACOG's I've ever looked through with my own eyes are a TA31 and a TA40-2. The TA31 donut was near non-existant on most backgrounds to me. The TA40-2 just jumped out me, much brighter than any red dot I've ever looked through, unless turned up to max and blurry. |
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Posted: 9/20/2003 8:59:57 PM EDT
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I still want one... BTW, Chuck, if the Comp ACOG you looked through was mine, its a TA47-2.
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Posted: 9/21/2003 3:50:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: You are much better off with the ML2, at least you don't have any signature leak from the muzzle side with the Aimpoint. if i have the choice between those two, I would take the Aimpoint in a heart beat. No dubt , I second Chen's opinion completely. PP out |
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Posted: 9/21/2003 11:35:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: I still want one... BTW, Chuck, if the Comp ACOG you looked through was mine, its a TA47-2. Mea culpa... Even though I'm too cross eyed to use the BAC (and now I have read that my left eye dominance is also a factor).. the amber triangle is why I've ordered a TA50-2. FDCC shoots on the 28th, right? I hope to have it on and sighted in on time. More on topic with this thread... I had been waiting for the tripower to come out... is there any hope of one coming out w/ some magnification? |
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Posted: 9/21/2003 6:32:41 PM EDT
[#19]
yeah, FDCC on the 28th. See you there.
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Posted: 9/21/2003 7:50:51 PM EDT
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Did you say that Trijicon is actualy going to field this thing to Civs...With a muzzle side signiture problem....JUDAS PRIEST...what are they thinking?
Not only NO, But HELL NO!!! |
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Posted: 10/7/2003 1:58:01 AM EDT
[#21]
What is muzzle side signature?
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Posted: 10/7/2003 2:08:25 AM EDT
[#22]
I to would like to know (Muzzle side signature)?
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Posted: 10/7/2003 2:10:45 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: What is muzzle side signature? The bad guy that you're aiming at can see the dot too. |
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Posted: 10/7/2003 6:05:06 AM EDT
[#24]
Well, I know everybody gives Trijicon a bunch of flak for the continually changing release date on the Tripower; but releasing it in this state is going to kill it entirely.
Few people are going to shell out the cash for a plastic body sight with many of the same problems of the Reflex II AND a muzzle side signature when they can have an Aimpoint or EOtech for the same money. The only advantage the Trijicon has is it will appeal to the batteryphobes - most of whom already hate any rifle technology developed in the latter half of the 20th century. |
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Posted: 10/7/2003 7:03:58 AM EDT
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I noticed that the new Brownells catalog has them listed....although for the price I can think of other optics I'd rather have. Haven't called to see if they are actually in stock.
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Posted: 10/8/2003 7:55:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: Well, I know everybody gives Trijicon a bunch of flak for the continually changing release date on the Tripower; but releasing it in this state is going to kill it entirely. Few people are going to shell out the cash for a plastic body sight with many of the same problems of the Reflex II AND a muzzle side signature when they can have an Aimpoint or EOtech for the same money. The only advantage the Trijicon has is it will appeal to the batteryphobes - most of whom already hate any rifle technology developed in the latter half of the 20th century. I agree entirely. |
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Posted: 10/8/2003 8:07:59 PM EDT
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Anyone seen one yet? They have supposedly been shipped out to some people.
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Posted: 10/8/2003 9:03:24 PM EDT
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And after all this time they can't come up with something better than a tube design.
I'll keep my EO....and my Aimpoint thanks! Now a TA31....'nother story! I'm fillin' my piggy bank! |
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Posted: 10/17/2003 4:41:46 PM EDT
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I receive one of the first TRI-POWER TX30 to be released. The better question is who wants to be one of the first to own one? It’s going for $437.09.
[img]http://csgunworks.com/product_images/2928.jpg[/img] [url]www.csgunworks.com[/url] |
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Posted: 10/17/2003 5:03:50 PM EDT
[#30]
This one has been sold and it looks like I will not have a chance to give you may feedback on it. It's probably a good thing that I did not play with it or I would have kept for meeeee.
I will take back orders now. I will be receiving more off and on from here on out. [url]www.csgunworks.com[/url] |
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Posted: 10/17/2003 7:57:04 PM EDT
[#31]
My main problem with this thing is the 14.5 MOA Chevron , way too big for anything but CQB.
Using the point of the Chevron for longer distances won't wash since your still going to lose everything covered by it. |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 12:38:24 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: My main problem with this thing is the 14.5 MOA Chevron , way too big for anything but CQB. Using the point of the Chevron for longer distances won't wash since your still going to lose everything covered by it. I dont get this... the chevron is as narrow as an Aimpoints dot. Please explain. |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 4:08:59 AM EDT
[#33]
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
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Posted: 10/18/2003 4:27:48 PM EDT
[#34]
What I'm trying to say is that it appears as if the Chevron covers too much of the field of view thus limiting the ability to find targets at longer ranges
The image shown here is all I have seen of the Tri-Power so the ultimate test would have to be actually looking through the lens. |
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Posted: 10/19/2003 12:58:32 AM EDT
[#35]
The chevron does not cover too much target, the triangle will, buit if you sight in the triangle with the tip there will be no problem of such. The chevron is too fine and not bright enough to be a fast CQB reticle.
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Posted: 10/19/2003 7:42:46 PM EDT
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I just got my Tri Power yesterday and had it on the range today. I was hitting LaRue sized steels at 300 yards. The tip of the point works well. CQB work great also. I will be trying it in different types of lighting next weekend. Looks great so far.
Lynn |
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Posted: 10/19/2003 8:46:46 PM EDT
[#37]
Just received one, I like the look of the chevron with just the fiber optic, have not installed batteries or light stick. $425.00 shipped first one to email
Robert www.rbprecision.com |
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Posted: 10/20/2003 12:57:58 PM EDT
[#38]
I just got one today I am gonna try to get to the range with it tommorrow.
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Posted: 10/20/2003 12:58:39 PM EDT
[#39]
I just got one today I am gonna try to get to the range with it tommorrow.
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Posted: 10/20/2003 6:20:52 PM EDT
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Maybe it's just me but he chevron is the width of the aimpoint's dot. So it should be as easy or easier to hit with then the aimpoint.
The outer width of the chevron is also the width of an average human torso at 100 yards so you could also do a range estimate with the sight. If they build them like the aimpoints are built then they will have a winner. |
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Posted: 10/21/2003 3:28:00 PM EDT
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I think I will eventually try one. I happen to have a spare 22M68 that needs optics!
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Posted: 10/21/2003 3:48:03 PM EDT
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I have had test samples of the tri power, and the tri power requres a slightly dif model of the 22M68 due to housing clearance. The Aimpoint fit into the tri power ARMS mount, but the Tri power did not fit the 22M68. By the way the tri power is quite a good system.
Good shootin, Jack |
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Posted: 10/21/2003 4:53:00 PM EDT
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3rdtk I'm glad you posted that information about the Tri-Power not working with the 22M68 Aimpoint mounts. I was hoping to reuse an extra ARMS 22M68 mount with the Tri-power optic I was going to order.
Could you confirm if it's a tight fit or the scope will not work at all with the 22M68. I'm not looking for perfection. Could someone who owns the Tri-Power post a picture of what I would see looking through the optic. I would like confirm the size of the Chevron in the Tri-Power. |
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Posted: 10/21/2003 4:53:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Thanks for clarifying Jack. Looks like I have to save more pennies for the mount too.
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Posted: 10/21/2003 5:01:54 PM EDT
[#45]
I may be mistaken, but it comes with a ring. You may want to check with the vendors who are offering the Tripower.
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Posted: 10/21/2003 5:27:17 PM EDT
[#46]
Per SFWA's ad in SGN:
Trij tri-power 30mm reflex TX30 $466.99 ARMS #10 FT adapter $104.99 ARMS 30mm AR15/M16 carry handle mount, TX13 $75.99 medium spacer for FT adapter (1/4"), TX11 $7.95 high spacer for same (1/2"),TX12 $7.95 |
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Posted: 10/21/2003 5:53:44 PM EDT
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Well there is some pos. good news if ARMS will do it. If they will sell just the saddle portion of the tri power ring, it will fit the tri lock platform of the AIMpoint 22M68. The dif. is only in the way the saddle is made to accomodate the tri power. Come to think of it, that is quite a modular set up, as it also took the same spacers if need be, espc if you already have a 22M68.
Jack |
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Posted: 10/21/2003 6:27:34 PM EDT
[#48]
Jack, we've heard a few folks who have tried the Tripower and did not like it share with us why they did not care for it. I am interested to hear from someone who has tried it and liked it. Care to elaborate? I'd love to get on and try it out, but I am strapped at the moment!!!
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Posted: 10/21/2003 6:35:59 PM EDT
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I like it since it is very light wt. rugged, doesn't go dead if the batteries do, works well in the way it aligns up on a rail with other devices such as fold down rear irons, NV, lasers for room and placement, good erganomics too.
When they are available, they will sell a bunch for some of these reasons. Good shootin, Jack |
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Posted: 10/21/2003 11:32:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: The dif. is only in the way the saddle is made to accomodate the tri power.Jack I mentioned earlier that I received a TRI-POWER mount inside my #22M68 box. It has worked perfectly so far with my Aimpoint M2. I don't see why they bothered to make one for each optic. If someone can tell me that I should replace mine with the proper ARMS, then I might do that. |
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