Green), that is a really good price, I guess I wouldn't be unhappy either.
BrainDead, the M3 BDC cams are very nice indeed.
You really need to ask yourself what kind of shooting you plan to do and what maximum ranges?
The M3 shines if your wanting to make quick shots at varrying ranges. The M3 takes 1 complete turn from 100 yards to 1000yards. On normal scopes, you would need multiple rotations of the turret to get 1000yards. Then, you might forget how many times you actually rotated it to get back to 100 yards. In a stressful situation this might come into play in a bad way. That's what the M3 is for, quick and super simple.
I purchased the M1 because I was hesitant about the coarse 1 MOA elev adjustments of the M3. But, since then I have helped my buddy shoot and sight-in his M3 and see that the 1 MOA adjustments aren't really that big of a deal. You've got to realize, youre never really off more than 1/2 MOA.
Lets say at 100 yards your 3/4" high. Adjust 1 click down and now your 1/4" low. That's close enough isn't it? If you were 1" high, adjust 1 click, and your on. If your 1/2" off, well, no matter what you adjust, your going to still be 1/2" off, still close enough IMO. See what I mean? Now if your a benchrest contest shooter, this is obviously not the best scope for you. BUt for most recreational shooters, I believe the M3 is wonderful.
On the other hand, if you did decide to go with the M1 and still yearned for the good ole BDC. You can contact Kenton Industries ( [url]http://www.kentonindustries.com/[/url] ). They make replacement turret knobs for the M1 and many other scopes that will be compensated, relatively speaking, to your particular preferred ammo, barrel length and elev above sea level. They look pretty nice. I personally have yet to order one (am considering switching my M1 to another rifle right now) but I have read a lot of really good things about them on some of the sniper boards.
Another note, Green0 brought up a good point about the M3 and 100 yard shooting. It is well documented that the MarkIV M3's are hit or miss whether they will do a 100 yard zero depending on the weapon and base used. The civie 3.5-10 M3's supposedly are not as effected by this. My friend's M3 zeroed fine at 100 yards on his Remmington 700P with Badger 20 MOA base. But, YMMV.
On the two scopes you are looking at, the prices sound really good. Be sure of what type of reticle is in each. The mildot ones are always higher priced it seems. If that M3 has mildot that would be a really good deal.
Even if you don't use the mildots for ranging, although you should try and learn it. You can still use the mils for holdovers with a little testing.
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