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Posted: 12/26/2003 10:13:59 PM EDT
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The rim on the magazine that hits the bottom of the mag well needs to be cut down, only the ones coded under 20 will fit in bushmaster lowers.
If you cut the latch hole larger you risk destroying the magazine, if you cut the hole wrong it wont feed. |
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Posted: 12/26/2003 10:16:12 PM EDT
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Great price, but I dont like plastic mags.
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Posted: 12/26/2003 10:17:31 PM EDT
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You are right JustLOOking,If you make the latch hole larger you will risk destroying the mag.Don't slip.Anyway, what the hell? It dosen't work in you're rifle anyway.
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Posted: 12/27/2003 4:28:47 AM EDT
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If you make the latch hole bigger the magazine will seat lower in the magazine well with the magazine lips lower where they may not feed correctly.
-- Chuck |
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Posted: 12/27/2003 8:08:39 AM EDT
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I am not saying to make the latch hole bigger. I am saying to cutout exactly the little piece of plastic in the mag latch hole.This will let the mag catch drop in far enough to lock.
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Posted: 12/27/2003 7:11:07 PM EDT
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Just my .02 guys, plastic works fine...Unless they "Don't accept American Express".
USGI= Aluminum. IIRC, USGI is built to spec by the lowest bidder and in the case of AR15/M16 magazines- USGI is ALUMINUM...So plastic "will work"(?) I've heard enough about USGI mags that don't work, who do you trust??? However, $4.50 a pop is rather tempting...Considering that USGI spec springs are running $5 alone. If nothing else, they could be first rate range mags. I'm Glad they worked out for you. But, forgive MHO, I would limit them to range use. Take care. Sly |
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Posted: 12/27/2003 8:12:19 PM EDT
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I agree. The U.S. GI mags are the best bet but I just wanted to share how I made crappy Orlite's work.Yes, they are range mags and I would never trust them for self defense,but I had to do something or I couldn't even use them as range mags. If looks could kill, the Orlite's look wicked in my AR.
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Posted: 12/28/2003 5:22:02 AM EDT
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I paid waaaay too much [>Q] for the brand new Orlites a few years back right after the ban, like $20 a piece, just because they looked cool. Luckily, they both work flawlessly in my Colt.
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Posted: 12/29/2003 12:03:42 PM EDT
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makattack,
Before you "makattack" anymore mags with your Dremel, you might want to read through the [url=magfaq.tripod.com]Magazine FAQ[/url] that's tacked to the top of this forum. In it, you would have found this: [3-2-1] Orlite ------- Orlite magazines were developed for the Israeli Armed Forces. The bodies are made from high-melt-temp black nylon with a steel reinforement mesh imbedded in the top 1.5 inches to strengthen the feed lips. New Orlites come with a rubber cap to help keep sand out of the mag. Orlites have a rib around the middle of the mag which helps to seal the bottom of the mag well and also prevents the magazine from being over-inserted and the feed lips damaged. The location of the rib was based on the deep mag well beveling on Colt M16s, and in ARs that aren't beveled as deeply, early Orlites won't seat completely. [red]This is easily correctable by trimming a bit of material from the top surface of the over-insertion rib; just enough to allow the mag to seat.[/red] This problem only occurs with early Orlites with mold numbers from 0/1 to 0/19. Starting with batch 0/20, the rib was moved about 1/32" further down the mag body, and these later mags work in all ARs with no modification. Used Orlites are often found at gun shows with their over-insertion ribs completely ground off. Avoid these mags, as it's too easy for these mags to be over-inserted, banging the feedlips against the bolt or getting stuck. Orlites are quite reliable, and were general issue in the Israeli Army through the 80s, but it was found that they don't hold up to hard combat use as well as USGI mags, which Israel switched to in the 90s. -Troy |
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Posted: 12/29/2003 12:55:30 PM EDT
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Troy,If I am going about this the wrong way I apoligize.I was just trying to share what I did to correct a problem I was having.Since I didn't grind any material off of the over insertion rib, and just cutout the mag catch hole exactly, the mags work.I think the detent for the mag catch wasn't deep enough for the mag catch to seat into the magazine.If it was the seating depth,I would think this would not have corrected the problem.Just wondering.
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Posted: 12/29/2003 12:57:26 PM EDT
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and buy the way Troy,Tahnks for the pun on the name, it gave me a chuckle.
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Posted: 12/29/2003 5:04:49 PM EDT
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What you almost certainly did was raise the top of the mag catch hole a hair, which is just enough to allow the catch to lock in. As Chuck pointed out, this effectively lowers the mag in the rifle, and can lead to mis-feeds. The catch will work just fine if the mag can be seated deep enough into the magwell, and what prevents that on some rifles is the overinsertion rib around the middle of the mag.
I'm not trying to get on your case, I'm just trying to keep you from learning a painful lesson the hard way. It's much more pleasant to learn from the mistakes of others, right? [:)] -Troy |
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Posted: 12/30/2003 12:38:09 PM EDT
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You are right Troy it is better to learn from others mistakes.All I know is that I test fired the mags and they work fine in my weapon.I do understand what you are saying though. Mabe I just got lucky.Sorry if I sounded upset,just seemed like I was being beatup on over a $4.50 mag fix that I really didn't care if they worked or not after I've seen people talk about cutting off their front sight because they can't take off their free float handguards.I appoligize if I over reacted.I've learned alot here and hope to learn more from the veterans of the board.
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