Here’s my review/opinions of a single, used Canadian Thermold magazine. I put the summary first for those of you who are impatient.
SummaryThis magazine functioned flawlessly with four kinds of ammo in three different AR-15s. However, because the magazine would not drop free from any of the lower receivers tested, I would limit use of
this particular magazine to the range. In all fairness, I have some USGI magazines that won’t drop free either and they are used at the range only.
Overall, I was impressed enough with the magazine to consider buying more of similar quality, at least as range alternatives to the more expensive USGI. I’ve also changed my mind on Thermolds in general and will take a harder look at the USA-made Thermolds.
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A little backgoundComputerGuy wanted someone to evaluate and test a used Canadian-manufactured Thermold magazine. In response to his solicitation, I posted that I was one of the people who stayed away from Thermold magazines only because of the perceived inferiority to USGI aluminum magazines. Thus, Cody (aka ComputerGuy) sent me a free magazine to evaluate.
I currently own 31 USGI 20-round magazines and 24 USGI 30-round magazines. Before receiving the Thermold magazine, I did not own any Thermolds. In fact, I had never even touched one. The only other AR magazine I own is a 10-round Bushmaster.
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Why did I not like Thermolds before this test? These are the issues I’ve heard, read or been told and were the reasons I never considered buying Thermolds.
Unlike USA-made Thermolds, Canadian-made Thermolds do not contain Zytel nylon. Therefore, some users have reported feed lips melting and/or warping under heavy use (typically full-auto where temperatures inside the chamber become very high) or the magazines (feed lips in particular) becoming brittle in extreme cold.
It’s been reported that dropping a fully loaded Canadian Thermold magazine can cause several rounds to pop out of the magazine. This appears to be generally attributed to the difference in plastic used in the Canadian magazines.
Some users have had to shave a slight amount of plastic off the magazine where the first magazine rib touches the bottom of the magazine well.
Some users have reported magazines can swell and/or feed lips can crack if left loaded for a long time.
The magazines work fine when they are clean. If the inside of the magazine becomes dirty, particularly with sand or other grit that can adhere to the plastic, the magazines may fail.
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First impressionsThe Thermold magazine I received was used, but not abused. I was impressed with the finish, which had only slight surface wear in a few places.
The magazine was very easy to disassemble and reassemble. The Thermolds all include an anti-tilt follower, although with a slightly shorter front leg than the “green” followers in USGI magazines. A vulnerability of aluminum USGI magazines is the metal tabs used to retain the floor plate. The Thermold’s base plate is retained by a plastic tab at the front and rear of the magazine. The tabs appear to be very sturdy.
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Materials used during evaluationRifles used during the evaluation included a 16” Bushmaster carbine, an Eagle Arms lower with a 20” Bushmaster upper and a Rock River Arms lower with a RRA upper (note this upper has a 20” Bushmaster barrel).
Ammunition included 120 rounds of Winchester Q3131A, 150 rounds of Wolf, 80 rounds of IMI M855 and 20 rounds of Federal ballistic.
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Magazine fitThe magazine was somewhat tight in each lower receiver. It fit flush in the magazine well and did not require any modification (i.e. shaving off some plastic). The magazine did not drop free from any magazine well, even when the magazine was fully loaded.
The Thermold did not scratch the magazine wells and didn’t appear to show wear as quickly as USGIs. For example, I could easily scratch with my finger nail the surface of an unused (1970’s manufacture, still in the original box) USGI 20-round magazine, while the used Thermold retained it’s nice black finish. (I’m not sure “finish” is the right word, since the whole thing is plastic. But I think you get my meaning.)
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Feed lips/round retentionComparing a USGI to the Thermold, I noticed that the USGI magazine seemed to retain the rounds slightly tighter. Manually removing rounds from the Thermold was easier than removing rounds from the USGI.
I repeatedly (i.e. ten or more times) dropped a fully loaded, used USGI 30-round magazine on its side from a distance of 2” on to a wood workbench. I should note the spring on this magazine is not a new spring and the magazine has been well used. The magazine retained all rounds.
Performing the same test with the fully loaded Thermold yielded different results. After the first drop, the tip of the first round had moved slightly up. The second drop caused the first round to move even more. The third drop resulted in the first round sticking out of the magazine at an angle of approximately 35 degrees (I actually measured it). The fourth drop caused the first three rounds to pop out and the tip of the fourth round (now the first one in the magazine) to slightly protrude from the magazine.
I went back to dropping the USGI magazine and could not get it to fail. I tried the same test with three more USGI magazines and finally did get a round to pop out of one very well used USGI magazine. That particular magazine does not drop free from any of my rifles as the feed lips have begun to slightly stretch.
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Feeding and extractingI manually fed 300 rounds of ammunition through one of the rifles. (Just a note regarding safety. To manually feed these rounds I replaced the firing pin with a firing pin modified to NOT protrude through the firing pin hole in the bolt. As always, the rifle was pointed in a safe direction.) Not one failure to feed or extract was encountered.
Various ammunition types were used for this manual feed testing. The magazine was loaded using a LULA and stripper clips.
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Range reportShooting at the range was somewhat uneventful. I didn’t encounter a single failure of any kind. Most of the rounds were fired through the Eagle Arms lower/Bushy upper so I could get the rifle hot. I think it would take a LOT of ammo from a lot of magazines to get the chamber temperature hot enough to melt the feed lips. A better test would be sending enough ammo through an M-16 until the rifle to try to melt the magazine. I doubt melting the magazine is a serious concern for most semi-automatic shooters.