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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:47:22 PM EDT

Gun store has crates of this stuff for $680 each or if you buy two or more for $650. 1060 rounds a crate. Any issues in modern semiauto rifles or
suppressors ? Should I fo?

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Posted: 1/16/2021 9:59:47 AM EDT

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Looks like S&B made surplus from Czechoslovakia, berdan primed and might be corrosive?

https://gun.deals/product/308-winchester-military-surplus-cheap-5301060-rds

https://www.m14forum.com/threads/corrosive-308-surplus.66788/

Posted: 1/16/2021 10:07:53 AM EDT

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Looks like S&B made surplus from Czechoslovakia, berdan primed and might be corrosive?

https://gun.deals/product/308-winchester-military-surplus-cheap-5301060-rds

https://www.m14forum.com/threads/corrosive-308-surplus.66788/

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Thank you! Maybe it would be good for a bolt action rifle not a tavor

Posted: 1/16/2021 11:24:44 AM EDT

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So, what does the LGS say about it? Corrosive or not?

Posted: 1/16/2021 11:32:47 AM EDT

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Corrosive.

Posted: 1/16/2021 11:32:49 AM EDT

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So, what does the LGS say about it? Corrosive or not?

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Forgot to ask

Posted: 1/16/2021 11:42:16 AM EDT

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Looks like S&B made surplus from Czechoslovakia, berdan primed and might be corrosive?

https://gun.deals/product/308-winchester-military-surplus-cheap-5301060-rds

https://www.m14forum.com/threads/corrosive-308-surplus.66788/

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That's what it looks like to me. It always seems like this stuff comes out of the woodwork when an ammo panic hits.

Posted: 1/16/2021 1:54:04 PM EDT

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That's what it looks like to me. It always seems like this stuff comes out of the woodwork when an ammo panic hits.

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A lot of total crap rises to the surface during a panic.

Posted: 1/16/2021 2:46:16 PM EDT

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So I take it I shouldn’t buy this stuff?

Posted: 1/16/2021 3:09:13 PM EDT

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If you do decide to buy it and actually shoot it be damn sure to scrub your weapon completely submerged in hot soapy water.

If you don't it'll look like it sat on the bottom of the ocean for 300 years.

Posted: 1/16/2021 3:14:55 PM EDT

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Would you get a better answer in the Ammunition subforum?

Posted: 1/16/2021 4:46:37 PM EDT

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Would you get a better answer in the Ammunition subforum?

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You are correct, moving it now.

Posted: 1/16/2021 6:38:41 PM EDT

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Would you get a better answer in the Ammunition subforum?

You are correct, moving it now.

I didn’t think this would be the right sub forum since it’s not AR15 related. Should have an ammunition section in armory.

Posted: 1/16/2021 7:24:23 PM EDT

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Definitely corrosive, but it always went bang and was reasonably accurate.

Posted: 1/16/2021 7:31:54 PM EDT

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Corrosive and for S&B, quality was not the best.

Posted: 1/16/2021 7:58:32 PM EDT

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That's what it looks like to me. It always seems like this stuff comes out of the woodwork when an ammo panic hits.

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That's one of the good things to come out of ammo panic shortages. Weird foreign ammo showing up from who knows where.

I would avoid that ammo OP, unless the price is a steal and you truly NEED it.

Re-read the post and the price is NOT a steal.

Posted: 1/16/2021 8:56:49 PM EDT

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This stuff does come out every panic time.... Is no one shooting it ? ..... EVER ?!

Some of it creeps out of its blackhole every panic.

Or just how much of it came into the USA ?

How cheap was it ?

What was going on in 1979 that made S&B decide to produce a freighter full of it ?

Posted: 1/17/2021 1:35:27 AM EDT

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Czech (S&B mil contract) ball. Headstamp will be either AXN or BXN. Corrosive.

It is not Port, but will shoot with most 7.62 ball.

Posted: 1/17/2021 11:42:30 AM EDT

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I shot a lot of that..(still have the wooden crates)
It is corrosive, but was all very reliable.
I would snap it up if it was a good price. You just have to clean after every range trip.

I did find out the hard way when I discovered the gas piston on my L1A1 build had rust on it after a range trip and a few weeks sitting in the basement....

Posted: 1/17/2021 11:48:59 AM EDT

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How much cleaning are we talking about? I want to shoot it in a tavor 7 with dead air nomad. Do I have to remove the whole gas system and scrub if I only shoot like 20 rounds?

Posted: 1/17/2021 12:44:18 PM EDT

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How much cleaning are we talking about? I want to shoot it in a tavor 7 with dead air nomad. Do I have to remove the whole gas system and scrub if I only shoot like 20 rounds?

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Not sure I would shoot that ammo with a can on... Just the rifle, you could clean it like you normally would.

But you have a high end (Expensive) gun and can, so I would probably not shoot corrosive.

Dumping boiling hot water down the barrel and in the can is a way to get rid of the corrosive salts that the ammo leaves inthe bore and bolt.

Posted: 1/17/2021 2:00:50 PM EDT

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Not sure I would shoot that ammo with a can on... Just the rifle, you could clean it like you normally would.

But you have a high end (Expensive) gun and can, so I would probably not shoot corrosive.

Dumping boiling hot water down the barrel and in the can is a way to get rid of the corrosive salts that the ammo leaves inthe bore and bolt.

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How much cleaning are we talking about? I want to shoot it in a tavor 7 with dead air nomad. Do I have to remove the whole gas system and scrub if I only shoot like 20 rounds?

Not sure I would shoot that ammo with a can on... Just the rifle, you could clean it like you normally would.

But you have a high end (Expensive) gun and can, so I would probably not shoot corrosive.

Dumping boiling hot water down the barrel and in the can is a way to get rid of the corrosive salts that the ammo leaves inthe bore and bolt.

That’s what I’m afraid of.

I have always shot federal m80 ball. But I can’t find that anywhere anymore.

Posted: 1/19/2021 9:03:31 AM EDT

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It is dirty and corrosive. I shot some up and sold the rest

Posted: 1/20/2021 1:41:10 PM EDT

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Went through 2 cases of that. Good stuff. I just sprayed down whatever semi I put it through with Ballistol mixed with water. Never had an issue with rust. I'm not familiar with the care of suppressors though.

Posted: 1/20/2021 2:28:49 PM EDT

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Pull the powder and bullet. Reuse it. You will should have extra powder for a few rounds.

Sell the cases for like 10cents each.

Posted: 1/20/2021 9:15:21 PM EDT

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Went through 2 cases of that. Good stuff. I just sprayed down whatever semi I put it through with Ballistol mixed with water. Never had an issue with rust. I'm not familiar with the care of suppressors though.

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Just the barrel of whole gas system and piston too?

Posted: 1/20/2021 10:51:02 PM EDT

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I shot a ton of it out of a Valmet M-78. I poured hot water and sprayed windex down the barrel, the gas block, piston, and gas tube.

Posted: 2/1/2021 3:51:52 PM EDT

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I bought several cases & sill have a couple left that I'm working my way through & like it. Yes it's corrosive but if you clean your rifle afterwards it won't be a problem. It was pretty cheap back when surplus .308 was starting to dry up & a lot of people were scared of by the corrosive part, which left more for the rest of us. I shoot it through my Scout M1a & Sig 716. $650 isn't bad at todays prices.