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Posted: 7/5/2006 2:14:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zhukov]
THE ORIGINAL THREAD HAS BEEN ARCHIVED. IF YOU HAVE VOTED IN THE PREVIOUS POLL, PLEASE DO NOT VOTE AGAIN.
LINK TO ARCHIVED THREAD In time, I hope to restore the comments from that thread, but in the meantime you'll have to be a team member to access the content archive. Please add your personal experience with Federal .223 ammunition to this thread. When you do, please give information about: 1) Ammunition used 2) Firearm used in 3) Approximate number of rounds fired. Archived thread results: 377 votes 345 positive 17 mixed 15 bad In this thread, I would like to limit discussion to all .223 loadings (XM193 is covered in another thread), including the "American Eagle" brand. I know this is kind of a broad area, but I don't want to create a zillion posts for every variant. For more information about this ammunition, please visit the Federal website I am trying to solicit only information about your PERSONAL experience with this ammunition. If you haven't used it, then please don't clutter up the thread. Information about proper functioning (or lack thereof) is obviously the most important, but factors such as the accuracy or other peculiarities you've noticed are informative also. If you have had problems with this ammo which were severe enough to cause you to stop using this ammo, then please describe them. |
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Posted: 7/5/2006 2:23:07 PM EDT
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I have shot several thousand rounds of AE FMJBT through my RR M4 type and a DPMS M4 type rifle without any issues. I have noticed a ammonia smell but nothing terrible. Seemed accurate enough. I paid $2.99/20 about 3 years ago but I have not purchased any since.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 2:28:32 PM EDT
[#2]
AE .223
Bushmaster 16" 500 Informally tested AE .223 & Wolf .223 side-by-side @ 100 yds to decide which would become my preferred plinking ammo. Both fed well, AE had tighter groupings for me. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2006 4:49:41 PM EDT
[#3]
just ordered 3000 rnds of AE223 55 FMJ.
only had one problem w/ a new mag in which caused the bullet to slam into the m4 feed ramps....easy fix and no other problems and might also add that the rifle was almost completely dry colt hbar 16" 1/9 twist |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2006 5:16:14 PM EDT
[#4]
200rds. so far.
16in.carbine 1/9 twist 16in. mid/length.1/7twist 20in. lt./wt. 1/12 twist. Pretty clean, no issues, goes where I point it. Got to try it in 1 more gun, if it groups I will stock up on it. |
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Posted: 7/5/2006 5:28:32 PM EDT
[#5]
500ish rounds through 1/9 midlength. No functioning issues, hit's where I aim. Much nicer shooting suppressed than most other loads I've tried. Significantly less smokey.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2006 8:11:20 PM EDT
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I have run many thousand rounds of Federal American Eagle .223 through my AR (20" A2 style). I've had some that was FC commercial headstamped and some that was LC with the NATO cross. Seems all loaded to the same (moderate) level. No problems, accuracy what you'd expect from value priced ammo, decently clean and not too smelly. Brass is good for reloading. Its reasonably priced at my local Sportsman's Warehouse ($3.99 a box with a $1 discount per 5 boxes). I will definitely buy more as long as they have it in stock. The only value priced ammo I prefer over this stuff is Winchester white box, when I can find it.
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ALB
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Posted: 7/5/2006 11:35:48 PM EDT
[#7]
I've fired several hundred rounds through my hybrid machine with 16" 1:9 barrel. The federal is its favorite. It is the most accurate that goes through it. It chronos at 2970fps so at close range it should do its job on BGs.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 11:50:55 PM EDT
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We fire many tens of thousands of rounds of the 55gr AE through our SWAT team Colts (M4's and M16's) and department patrol rifles (Bushmaster Dissipator) every year. We rarely experience any ammunition related problems.
I have fired over a thousand rounds of the 55gr AE through two RRA's that I own with no problems. |
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Posted: 7/6/2006 12:51:23 AM EDT
[#9]
I have shot 850 rounds of 62gr. FC stamped FMJ Federal American Eagle ammo through my M16/M4A1 rifle without a single malfunction. I would buy it again.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2006 1:49:59 PM EDT
[#10]
more acurate than wolf, reliable no problems, good zombie ammo
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Posted: 7/7/2006 2:23:03 PM EDT
[#11]
I like the AE 55 grain better than the LC XM-193. I use it in CMP club matches out to 200 yrds and it shoots better from my ARs than does "Gold Medal" match at shorter ranges.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/9/2006 3:00:50 PM EDT
[#12]
fired about 1000 rounds,good stuff
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Posted: 7/17/2006 2:19:04 PM EDT
[#13]
Local shop has a good deal on it so I picked up a couple cases and took them to the range. Shot great through a RR Entry Tactical M4(ish). Will continue to buy more.
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ME, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2006 5:22:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Almost done with my 1000rd case, and no malfs WHATSOEVER. It's very accurate, functions 100%, and seems consistently charged.
+1 on the ammonia smell, though. Sometimes I get gassed through the CH when the gun gets dirty, and the smell wakes me up QUICK! |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 1:24:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: saucy]
[#15]
+1 at 200 rds through an A3M4 with 14.5 inch chromed lined 1/8 barrel. Great accuracy for moderately price ammo but the Ammonia IS heavy. |
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Posted: 7/24/2006 8:29:01 PM EDT
[#16]
nice, very nice ammo. accurate, clean, reasonably priced
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MT, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2006 1:30:37 AM EDT
[#17]
Just finished third case (3000 rds) of the Federal AE223. Had mixed head stamps of: FC/223 Remington, FC/05, and Lake City. All shot out of a DPMS M4, Bushmaster Varminter or Bushmaster Carbon 15. Clean burning, as accurate as any other economy ammo and excellant reloadable brass. And the small boxes make it easy to store 500 rounds per 50 cal ammo can. At $3.99 per bx, it's the best buy I have been able to find.
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Posted: 7/25/2006 2:48:00 AM EDT
[#18]
1000 rounds of AE 62gr FMJBT worked, shot great in my Colt Match Target. 1 round out of the thousand did pop a primer into the fire control group. Turned the rifle up-side-down and the primer fell out. I also reloaded the brass of the AE and it all shot well for a the normal amount of loadings. Hit a coyote at 120yds, must have tumbled and yawed really well, there was a quarter size chunk missing at the exit wound. That was all back in 2001.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 8/9/2006 3:18:36 AM EDT
[#19]
300 rounds w/o problem in a 16"colt HBAR
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Posted: 9/25/2006 4:33:03 PM EDT
[#20]
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Posted: 9/25/2006 9:16:16 PM EDT
[#21]
have shot thousands FAE 55gr fmj and love it
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Posted: 9/25/2006 10:54:54 PM EDT
[#22]
Just started shooting AE223 a few months ago because I could get it cheap locally. shoots accurately and great for plinking.
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Posted: 12/4/2006 2:48:27 PM EDT
[#23]
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LA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2006 2:33:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheMechanic48]
[#24]
have shot 1000+ and no problems. have read that lc stamped brass is better than fc. All mine have been lc brass.
Correction. Have read that LC brass better for reloading than FC brass. |
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Posted: 12/10/2006 11:21:55 AM EDT
[#25]
Never had a problem with any caliber A&E ammo. Good reasonably priced range ammo +.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2006 12:36:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Federal American eagle 55 grain FMJ shoots just fine out of my Olympic Shorty. Accurate too at 100 yards sitting rapid fire.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2006 2:37:29 AM EDT
[#27]
Shot a case (500 rds) thru my 16" Bushy 1/9. No problems whatsoever. as accurate as one can expect from an "economy" round.
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Posted: 3/5/2007 11:14:18 AM EDT
[#28]
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WY, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2007 2:07:50 AM EDT
[#29]
purchased 2k for my Robinson XCR, 1/9 16inch. 500 rounds and not one single problem.
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Posted: 3/7/2007 2:21:43 AM EDT
[#30]
I've shot it through SBRs, M16s, AR15s, a Sig 552 and an M249. It is excellent ammunition.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2007 10:54:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GMR-KURTZ]
[#31]
Have shot over 500 rnds of the AE 55 grn through my ADCO built 18" SPR in the past month and have had no problems what so ever. Surprisingly accurate and shot a 3/4" 5 shot group at 100 yrds today from the bench today. Not to shabby for non-match ammo.. was actually shocked.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2007 2:51:01 PM EDT
[#32]
I've been using this stuff for 3 gun matches for a while now. I also used it in my M16. I've probably gone through 4,000 rounds. This stuff is accurate enough to hit a larue at 330 yards. I've only had one round not go bang (bad primer) but I'll continue to use it if I can find some.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2007 3:43:09 PM EDT
[#33]
500 rnds through my Oly Arms ML-2 (1/10) in .223 and PCR-2(1/9) 5.56 without a hitch. As accurate as any other round I shoot.
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Posted: 4/5/2007 5:16:13 PM EDT
[#34]
American Eagle AE223G 50 grain jacketed hollow point
Olympic Arms 20" A2 with stainless 1:9 barrel 100 rounds No problems with this ammo at all. Accuracy was good as well, but only fired at up to 100 yards with open sights. I will buy this again, but will be using it in a bolt-action rifle with a slower twist rate at longer range. However, it is good to know that I can use it in the AR if necessary. Hessenfesser |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2007 12:59:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: glockfan45]
[#35]
I bought 1k rounds of the 63gr, SP, with the LC head stamp. My local Cabela's has tons of this stuff in stock (at least 50 cases). It runs great in my Colt 6520, and Bushy/Stag/DPMS/? mutt. Accuracy is good, and 1k rounds down range provided no failures. I plan to buy another 2k next week for my plinking stash. As a bonus I will have a huge pile of LC stamped brass to reload when I'm done. I'm a brass whore  .
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AL, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2007 1:42:12 PM EDT
[#36]
Bought a thousand rounds from Natchez about 3-4 years ago, all gone but 90 rounds. No failures whatsoever, fired in 3 different guns:
Colt Match H-Bar 20" circa 1992 Bushmaster 16" carbine (has had gas port opened slightly at factory) Bushmaster 24" varminter |
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Posted: 9/11/2007 3:11:13 PM EDT
[#37]
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2007 10:16:48 PM EDT
[#38]
A look inside: .223 Federal American Eagle 55grn FMJ
Thought this might be informative for everyone shooting this ammo. I don't know the author. |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 4:13:04 PM EDT
[#39]
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Posted: 11/14/2007 4:29:20 PM EDT
[#40]
1) Ammunition used: American Eagle 55grn stamped LC03, LC04, LC05 and LC06.
2) Firearms used in: 11.5", 14.5", 16", 18" and 20" AR's 3) Number of rounds fired: Probably around 8000 rounds combined American Eagle has worked wonderfully for me, no malfunctions what so ever. I've chronoed the LC04 and LC05 stuff at 2980 fps through my 14.5" upper. It's the only factory ammo I use these days, I trust it 100%. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2007 6:27:42 PM EDT
[#41]
This is my favorite ammunition for both my Bushmaster M4 Clone and my Bushmaster Standard 20" Gov't profile rifle.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2007 8:59:27 AM EDT
[#42]
I shot some of the red box stuff out of a RRA 16" carbine. Fairly accurate but what surprised me for .223 ammo I was getting an average of about 3038 FPS over a cheapy chrono. As a comparason, I also shot some commercial .223 55gr FMJ commercial "equivalents" the same day/ chrono and same RRA carbine, I was getting an average of 2865 FPS on Winchester USA223R1 and 2804 FPS on Remington UMC. When I buy more commercial 55gr FMJ .223, I will be buying the Federal AE223....
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Posted: 12/20/2007 9:40:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: YOPD]
[#43]
I buy it whenever my friendly local Bi-Mart gets any on the shelf. Never a problem into or out of the gun.
Some have complained about the ammonia smell, but I don't get any ammonia smell from any of the ammo I shoot. |
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Posted: 12/20/2007 3:55:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: talon370]
[#44]
I have shot roughly about 500-600 rounds of a combination of 50 grn hollow point and 55 grn fmj. Fired from a 16 inch 1:7 twist upper from CMMG. No issues, no problems from firing this ammo. I still use it.
ETA On my last us of this ammo I had one round (FMJ) out of about 100 set back on me. It was fed from a MAGPUL P-Mag into the rifle listed above. Also the receiver and the barrel both have M4 cuts. I will still use this ammo. |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 3:21:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/1/2008 10:50:50 AM EDT
[#46]
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2008 7:16:25 PM EDT
[#47]
I have shot between 5000-6000 rds of the 50gr. flat base hollowpoints with great success. All rounds were fired from a Bushy carbine. Very accurate out to 300 yds. This is my favorite round for ranch work and plinking.
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Posted: 9/23/2008 1:40:47 AM EDT
[#48]
Bought 500 rnds of 63gr SP AE, working my way through what I have left and haven't had any problems yet. I've also shot a lot of their 55gr FMJ stuff with no problems.
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USA
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Posted: 2/2/2009 7:29:24 PM EDT
[#49]
I have shot 200 rounds of the Federal .223 through a mid-length CMMG rifle with 16" barrel. No problems, ~ .50" groups at 25 yards, but there was a distinct ammonia smell. The brass had FC 08 headstamp, and the primers had a blue sealant. Picked up another 200 rounds today. Headstamp was FC 223 REM, and the primers did not have any sealant.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2009 5:49:02 PM EDT
[#50]
The A&E has been good to me. I have a A1 603 and the 50 grain stuff groups the best, and it ain't too dirty
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