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Posted: 9/18/2003 4:42:40 AM EDT
Botach has 1200 rnds of IMI 5.56 for $189 shipped. Anyone use this ammo? Any good? I can't believe that Israel has any surplus ammo. Is this quality SHTF ammo or junk?

On a scale of 1 - 10 (10 being the best) as compared to Q3131A or Federal XM193 where does this stuff rank?

Shabo
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 4:48:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Can't locate the ammo, but all IMI ammo M193 or M855 is top notch a 10.

Mike
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 4:51:37 AM EDT
[#2]
That stuff ranks up there with Q3131A and the LC XM193. Is this the AP stuff you are looking at? I loaded up 5 mags yesterday, good stuff!

Agreed, I'd give a 10 too
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 5:10:38 AM EDT
[#3]
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Is this the AP stuff you are looking at?
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FWIW, SS-109 or M855, is steel-cored ammo but not [b]AP[/b], lest we confuse folks, as stated in the [url]www.ammo-oracle.com[/url], true 223 AP ammo is not for civilian distribution, military only.

Mike
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 5:38:16 AM EDT
[#4]
Once again, mr_wilson is correct.

If this is the M855 (62-grain, steel core, green-tip) ammo, it is great ammo.  I got a couple of cases of this from Botach a few months ago and haven't had any problems.  IMI makes great ammo.  (Hell, they better.)
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 8:16:18 AM EDT
[#5]
This ammo is grrrreat!  Nice thing is that it comes in thirty round boxes...thirty rounds per box, thirty rounds per mag...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T EVERYBODY ELSE DO THIS!
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 8:55:30 AM EDT
[#6]
I searched the Botach site, and I can't find this ammo. Is it available to everybody? I would probably like to get myself a case or two.
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 9:19:21 AM EDT
[#7]
Go to [url]www.botach.com[/url]. Under the pic of the storm trooper click on the ammunition link. Then click on the Israel Militay Industries link. It's listed along with other ammo choices.

Shabo
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 9:19:36 AM EDT
[#8]
http://botach.com/IMI/IMIAmmo/imiammunitions.htm
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 9:20:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
thirty rounds per box, thirty rounds per mag...WHY THE HELL DOESN'T EVERYBODY ELSE DO THIS!
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Because nice church going morally correct people only use five rounds at a time in their hunting rifles.[ROFL2]
Link Posted: 9/18/2003 4:35:53 PM EDT
[#10]
I just bought 2cases of IMI-M193 from Botach today.  $378 for 2400 rnds works out to $.1575 per round or $157.50 per 1000 delivered to my door.  Ends up being about $20 a 1000 cheaper than I can buy Fed XM193 or Win Q3131A locally after I pay the sales tax. Its even a better deal than I could get from Sportsman's Guide using their $15.00 off coupon after the shipping was calculated.  If it's good enough for the IDF it's good enough for me.
Link Posted: 9/19/2003 3:08:08 AM EDT
[#11]
I ordered a 1.2K round case also. I'll most likely fire off 200 and keep 1K in reserve along with the case of Q3131A I already have.

Anyone know if this ammo is sealed?

Shabo
Link Posted: 9/19/2003 4:24:50 AM EDT
[#12]
yes it is, at least the batch I got is sealed.

I do not recall the lot number, I put it all on stripper clips.

I'll be surprised if you can stop with 200, that is some great ammo, you'll love it.
Link Posted: 9/19/2003 11:15:46 AM EDT
[#13]
Ordered from Botach couple weeks back ( i even posted on here). Box came within 5 business days. Great shooting ammo. Same as Q3131A.
Link Posted: 9/19/2003 12:29:10 PM EDT
[#14]
I got some IMI M855 years ago when you could get it from Cole Distributing. It's pretty good stuff, certainly NATO spec. I think Botach is the sole US distributor for IMI ammo now.
Link Posted: 9/19/2003 4:44:50 PM EDT
[#15]
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I got some IMI M855 years ago when you could get it from Cole Distributing. It's pretty good stuff, certainly NATO spec. I think Botach is the sole US distributor for IMI ammo now.
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Widener's is their other dealer in the US. By most of the reports here and on IMI's own site forum, I would say Widener's service HAS to be better than Botach's (One would hope!)

Cheers,
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