Will there be much 7.62x51 surplus in the future?

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Posted: 7/4/2003 12:38:35 AM EDT

Am I wrong in thinking that right now there seems to be less surplus 7.62x51 on the market?

There's the Indian, which I wouldn't buy due to quality concerns. There is the Australian, which people say will dry up fast. The SA seems to be hard to find. Portuguese? British ammo? I haven't seen these lately--am I looking in the wrong places?

Does anyone happen to know if 7.62 will dry up in the future, or is there lots of surplus that will come onto the market.

Are foreign countries using as much 7.62 as they used to? Have most countries switched to 5.56 for their rifles? Is this causing a 7.62 surplus shortage? There's got to be some ammo out there for the 7.62 machineguns.

Posted: 7/4/2003 12:51:20 AM EDT

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It comes and goes, much like 5.56 surplus. I hear there's a big load of Port 308 inbound, and as fast as the Aussie stuff is selling I wouldn't be surprised to see another load or two of that inbound.

I was lucky enough to get in on a group buy on the Aussie stuff before the ship had even arrived. If there is any left oversees, I bet it will show up here. Plus, I hear that DCM bought a lot if not most of this past load of Aussie 308. Yes, it's that good.

Posted: 7/4/2003 10:13:00 AM EDT

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Frankly, I doubt it. People were laughing 6 years ago when I said that surplus .30-06 was virtually gone. (They also laughed when I said the surplus SA battlepacks would dry up.) Well, yeah, you can still find some occasionally, but the price for it approaches new, factory ammo.

The reason for all of this cheap surplus is because many countries have converted their military over to 5.56mm, and are dumping the "obsolete" 7.62NATO ammo on our surplus market. But the supply of that ammo is finite, and it isn't like they're making more of it; most countries stopped production in the 80s.

We're coming to the end of the cheap surplus .308. As always happens, most of the best stuff goes first, and more and more, you start seeing the junk (such as those Indian .308 lots that should have been BURNED). I'd recommend buying all you want now, because a few years from now, your choices will be either crappy, degraded surplus at prices higher than today's, or $8/20-rounds of new ammo.

-Troy

Posted: 7/4/2003 10:25:48 AM EDT

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The .30-06 I can understand drying up, but wouldn't there be plenty of 7.62 machinegun ammo out there?

Posted: 7/4/2003 7:24:13 PM EDT

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The .30-06 I can understand drying up, but wouldn't there be plenty of 7.62 machinegun ammo out there?

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Not from the USA. Thanks to Clinton that asshole.

Posted: 7/5/2003 7:40:52 PM EDT

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If I want M80 stuff - it costd me $350.00 per thousand linked for M-60. RG stuff is over $200.00 per thousand. It is absolutely outrageous. [(:)]

Posted: 7/7/2003 11:25:21 AM EDT

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The .30-06 I can understand drying up, but wouldn't there be plenty of 7.62 machinegun ammo out there?

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Not from the USA. Thanks to Clinton that asshole.

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Hell, if Clinton was just an asshole we could forgive him. You are too kind 7.

I agree, if you want a good stash of 7.62 NATO better pick it up now. But don't think it will last forever in your cashe, rotate that inventory and get some new stuff in the "savings plan". I know it cost more, but a 10 boxes of new Federal American Eagle will still be good 20 years from now.

I recently shot up all my old stock of LC 30-06 as it was nearly 50 years old! (1953 and 1954 headstamps) Every round fired fine, but the stuff was getting stinky! We set it free via a nice old Springfield 1903 and a Garand. It was a good time for sure liberating those 450 rounds of ought-six. Great old rifles even it they are not AR15's!

Posted: 7/9/2003 7:47:14 PM EDT

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Where can I find the Aussie stuff you guys are talking about ??

Posted: 7/10/2003 2:21:03 AM EDT

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Where can I find the Aussie stuff you guys are talking about ??

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[url]www.falparts.com/ammo.asp[/url]

It shows it out of stock, but he will have some within days. There are other suppliers out there too.

Posted: 7/10/2003 6:56:56 AM EDT

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Does anyone know if the Ammo Man ($179/800rds)would honor the prices at falparts.com ($132/800rds....hell thats a $47 difference. Both offer free shipping....

I have heard he is a good guy and would like to do business with him...but $47 is still $47

Posted: 7/10/2003 7:22:21 AM EDT

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Don't worry about ordering from falparts, I've ordered several imbel kits, and a whole bunch or ar magazines from him. He used to have the parked sa80 mags for $15. Dan's a great guy.

Posted: 7/10/2003 7:38:02 AM EDT

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Does anyone know if the Ammo Man ($179/800rds)would honor the prices at falparts.com ($132/800rds....hell thats a $47 difference. Both offer free shipping....

I have heard he is a good guy and would like to do business with him...but $47 is still $47

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At this low price Dan's(Falparts) is charging shipping above the listed price. Go to http://wwwapps.ups.com/QCCWebApp/request?loc=en_US put in your zip and his zip(15613) and weight (70lbs) for an estimate, or you could just email him. The UPS web page is usually a little on the high side.

FB

Posted: 7/10/2003 8:28:58 AM EDT

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There is still 8mm from WWII coming in from some sountry that squirreled it away for decades.

Posted: 7/10/2003 8:47:34 AM EDT

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Where can I find the Aussie stuff you guys are talking about ??

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[url]www.falparts.com/ammo.asp[/url]
It shows it out of stock, but he will have some within days. There are other suppliers out there too.

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Thanks, I hope he gets more in.

You guys shot much of this stuff ?

How's it compare to Port or Hirt ??

Posted: 7/10/2003 3:56:19 PM EDT

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Thanks, I hope he gets more in.

You guys shot much of this stuff ?

How's it compare to Port or Hirt ??

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I put 60 rounds through my STG58, and about another 40 rounds of Port the same day (first actual serious time shooting the rifle after Bulletfest). The Aussie is cleaner and at least in my rifle more accurate than the Port. And the Port stuff ain't bad! The Australian I have is 1983 production, and the shipment that came in in June was mostly 83 and 89. It's packed on 5 round stripper clips, in bandoleers, 200 rounds to a can and four cans to a case. Aussie bandoleers are the best I've seen, and the extras just make this ammo an even better deal.

The DCM bought a BUNCH of this ammo so that should tell you how accurate they think it is! Check on Falfiles.com in the ammo forums for some very glowing and complete reviews.

I give it a "BUY" rating! Don't miss out!