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Posted: 12/11/2002 6:16:26 AM EDT
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IIRC it's 5.56 rather then .223 which may have accounted for an old advisory on it use. I have some for my new M15a4c, shoots fine.
It's actually Q3131A Price is ok depends on cost of shipping though. |
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Posted: 12/12/2002 1:55:06 PM EDT
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Sports Authority is selling Q3131, not Q3131A, and out of the 8 rounds I fired I had one failure to extract and 4 failures to eject.
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Posted: 12/12/2002 3:23:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sports Authority is selling Q3131, not Q3131A, and out of the 8 rounds I fired I had one failure to extract and 4 failures to eject. Out of what kind of rifle? What is it chambered for? .223? 5.56? |
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Posted: 12/14/2002 12:04:39 PM EDT
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Joe39,
That's a good price if it includes shipping, but I would buy XM193 for that price. |
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Posted: 12/14/2002 12:05:55 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sports Authority is selling Q3131, not Q3131A, and out of the 8 rounds I fired I had one failure to extract and 4 failures to eject. |
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Posted: 12/15/2002 5:37:16 AM EDT
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What rifle had these stoppages?
-- Chuck |
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Posted: 12/20/2002 11:16:28 AM EDT
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I have sent hundreds of rounds of of Q3131A through my .223. Zero problems. Great product.
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Posted: 12/20/2002 11:30:47 AM EDT
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Q3131 and Q3131A are completely different animals.
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Posted: 12/20/2002 3:05:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Is this a good deal? Price is better than many, but you may find better deals if you shop around a while. Only slightly better though, IMO. Quoted: I had heard that Armalite does not recomend this ammo for their rifles Does anybody know why? Not for quality reasons, if that's what you're concerned about. It's good ammo. Q3131A is what many people store away for the proverbial "rainy day." Armalite may have had problems with using this ammo in a .223 chamber. Your BM rifle has a 5.56 chamber, so no worries there. I don't know what chamber the J&T has. |
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Posted: 12/20/2002 8:38:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sports Authority is selling Q3131, not Q3131A, and out of the 8 rounds I fired I had one failure to extract and 4 failures to eject. Let me guess: your Q3131 was '99 headstamp, right? There are known to be bad lots of '99 headstamp ammo. They were the last lots of domestically-produced Q3131 ammo, and were using up the last of the components, and apparently the powder's burn rate wasn't consistant. Since Olin/Winchester lost the contract to operate Lake City, they have discontinued manufacturing Q3131, which apparently was made at LC by Winchester. Alliant/Federal is now operating LC, and is now making "XM193". Winchester has been fulfilling the market by importing Israeli-made M193 and selling it as Q3131A. -Troy |
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Posted: 12/20/2002 9:27:43 PM EDT
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addition to the above comments:
Q3131A M193 is in spec and is Manufactured in Israel on WCC brass by IMI(israeli Military Industries). |
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Posted: 12/20/2002 9:46:19 PM EDT
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Well, it's manufactured on IMI brass (that's stamped WCC due to the contract). Winchester doesn't ship cases to Israel to have them loaded. Imagine what that would cost...
-Troy |
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Posted: 12/21/2002 12:55:26 PM EDT
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Rodger that Troy.
Thanks for clarifying that. |
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Posted: 12/22/2002 6:12:17 AM EDT
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I shoot it all the time in my Armalite AR15 with no problems. The only ammo it doesnt like is Russian steel cased except for Silver Bear. I was too ignorant on ARs to know any difference between 223 vs5.56 when bought rifle so shot whatever with no problems-PMC PMP S&B Greek IMI Rem Fed etc. Keep IMI M855 for "rainy day" and it likes it fine.
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