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Posted: 5/18/2017 7:01:02 PM EDT
We are happy to announce the release of Ballistic Advantage fluted barrels. These barrels are crafted to the same precision we have become known for over the last 8 years. As with all Ballistic Advantage barrels, this new 18" fluted barrel is guaranteed to shoot sub-MOA. Click the photo to shop now, or CLICK HERE!
Length: 18" Material: 416R Stainless Steel Profile: Fluted SPR Finish: Bead Blasted Gas System Length: Rifle Gas Block Journal: .750" Twist Rate: 1:8 Muzzle: 1/2x28 Threads Weight: 28oz 
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Posted: 5/18/2017 7:03:12 PM EDT
[#1]
The 18" .223 Wylde is the only fluted barrel currently available, but there are most definitely more lengths and calibers soon to come!
-Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 11:54:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Looks like a really nice barrel.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 12:01:50 AM EDT
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The 18" .223 Wylde is the only fluted barrel currently available, but there are most definitely more lengths and calibers soon to come! -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:53:58 AM EDT
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When the 24" 6.5 Creedmoor is out you can count on a sale. -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 11:42:56 AM EDT
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We are happy to announce the release of Ballistic Advantage fluted barrels. These barrels are crafted to the same precision we have become known for over the last 8 years. As with all Ballistic Advantage barrels, this new 18" fluted barrel is guaranteed to shoot sub-MOA. Click the photo to shop now, or CLICK HERE! Length: 18" Material: 416R Stainless Steel Profile: Fluted SPR Finish: Bead Blasted Gas System Length: Rifle Gas Block Journal: .750" Twist Rate: 1:8 Muzzle: 1/2x28 Threads Weight: 28oz http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh498/tonybamfg/Fluted%20barrels_zpso84zsuza.jpg http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh498/tonybamfg/Fluted%20barrels%202_zpsh8rewkog.jpg http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh498/tonybamfg/Fluted%20barrels%203_zpst8v61nf2.jpg Assuming it shoots as well as your other barrels this is a home run. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 12:07:16 PM EDT
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When the 24" 6.5 Creedmoor is out you can count on a sale. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The 18" .223 Wylde is the only fluted barrel currently available, but there are most definitely more lengths and calibers soon to come! -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 12:36:20 PM EDT
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Does it come in 6.5grendel?
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Posted: 5/19/2017 7:52:01 PM EDT
[#8]
hmmmm that's cute but a bit much. I don't think that's that breathtaking to merit that price.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 7:59:14 PM EDT
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hmmmm that's cute but a bit much. I don't think that's that breathtaking to merit that price. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:57:53 PM EDT
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Does it come in 6.5grendel?  . When will we see it in grendel? Same price?
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:49:08 PM EDT
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Before you get all hot and bothered about fluted barrels, understand it first.
The Real Benefits of Fluted Barrels |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 5:30:48 PM EDT
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Before you get all hot and bothered about fluted barrels, understand it first. The Real Benefits of Fluted Barrels I've read the article several times during the past year and I still get hot and bothered BECAUSE of the science and logic therein... Form AND function melded together is a wonderful thing... 
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Posted: 5/21/2017 10:37:44 PM EDT
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Science and logic are great but let's be honest, at the end of the day, fluted barrels look cooler and that's what it's all about for most of us. Glad to see BA stepping up their game, and I'm also hoping to see a 6.5g (with matching bolt?!) in the future.
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Posted: 5/22/2017 7:45:10 AM EDT
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Before you get all hot and bothered about fluted barrels, understand it first. The Real Benefits of Fluted Barrels Second point is regarding barrel cooling. And once again while starting with the statement that increased cooling is a misconception he ends up stating that in fact fluting does increase barrel cooling. Who cares what the reason is, however he is wrong to leave out the increased radiation as one of the reasons, since radiation is proportional to the surface area which he has already pointed out is increased by fluting, there is increased radiation cooling of the barrel. I am not here to say fluting is the greatest thing since sliced bread, lets just get the facts straight. And they are.....ounce for ounce, a fluted barrel will be stiffer and cool faster, period. I hope no one ever believed that a thicker heavier barrel was not stiffer than a lighter barrel. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 11:36:01 AM EDT
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Our reasons for making fluted barrels is very simple.
1. It's light. 28 oz is pretty damn light for an 18" barrel. 2. Our customers wanted it. I can't count how many people have asked us for fluted barrels. We are heavily influenced by our loyal customers and what they want. However, let's settle some long-debated nonsense. This is fluting in a nutshell: A fluted barrel with any given weight will be more rigid than a government profile, non-fluted barrel of the same weight. A fluted barrel with any given outside diameter will be LESS RIGID than a non-fluted barrel of the same outside diameter, but will be CONSIDERABLY LIGHTER. Let's talk heat dissipation. It is absolute fact that an increased surface area will increase the rate at which energy (heat) radiates from a given object. It's why that beautiful ice sphere in my bourbon, waters down slower than cubes do. Less surface area, less heat transfer; More surface area, more heat transfer. A barrel of the same outside diameter will cool slower than a fluted one, for 2 reasons. Less mass to retain the heat, and larger surface area. But here is the most important part, you will not notice the increase very much. Go ahead, mag dump 120 rounds though our fluted barrel, wait a few minutes, then touch it. Be sure to treat your burns properly afterwards. Does it cool down faster? Sure. But does a couple of degrees per minute make a difference at 600+ F? Not really. You might have noticed, we have in no way used increased heat dissipation as a feature to market our fluting. -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 12:33:07 PM EDT
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Our reasons for making fluted barrels is very simple. 1. It's light. 28 oz is pretty damn light for an 18" barrel. 2. Our customers wanted it. I can't count how many people have asked us for fluted barrels. We are heavily influenced by our loyal customers and what they want. However, let's settle some long-debated nonsense. This is fluting in a nutshell: A fluted barrel with any given weight will be more rigid than a government profile, non-fluted barrel of the same weight. A fluted barrel with any given outside diameter will be LESS RIGID than a non-fluted barrel of the same outside diameter, but will be CONSIDERABLY LIGHTER. Let's talk heat dissipation. It is absolute fact that an increased surface area will increase the rate at which energy (heat) radiates from a given object. It's why that beautiful ice sphere in my bourbon, waters down slower than cubes do. Less surface area, less heat transfer; More surface area, more heat transfer. A barrel of the same outside diameter will cool slower than a fluted one, for 2 reasons. Less mass to retain the heat, and larger surface area. But here is the most important part, you will not notice the increase very much. Go ahead, mag dump 120 rounds though our fluted barrel, wait a few minutes, then touch it. Be sure to treat your burns properly afterwards. Does it cool down faster? Sure. But does a couple of degrees per minute make a difference at 600+ F? Not really. You might have noticed, we have in no way used increased heat dissipation as a feature to market our fluting. -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 4:39:45 PM EDT
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Our reasons for making fluted barrels is very simple. 1. It's light. 28 oz is pretty damn light for an 18" barrel. 2. Our customers wanted it. I can't count how many people have asked us for fluted barrels. We are heavily influenced by our loyal customers and what they want. However, let's settle some long-debated nonsense. This is fluting in a nutshell: A fluted barrel with any given weight will be more rigid than a government profile, non-fluted barrel of the same weight. A fluted barrel with any given outside diameter will be LESS RIGID than a non-fluted barrel of the same outside diameter, but will be CONSIDERABLY LIGHTER. Let's talk heat dissipation. It is absolute fact that an increased surface area will increase the rate at which energy (heat) radiates from a given object. It's why that beautiful ice sphere in my bourbon, waters down slower than cubes do. Less surface area, less heat transfer; More surface area, more heat transfer. A barrel of the same outside diameter will cool slower than a fluted one, for 2 reasons. Less mass to retain the heat, and larger surface area. But here is the most important part, you will not notice the increase very much. Go ahead, mag dump 120 rounds though our fluted barrel, wait a few minutes, then touch it. Be sure to treat your burns properly afterwards. Does it cool down faster? Sure. But does a couple of degrees per minute make a difference at 600+ F? Not really. You might have noticed, we have in no way used increased heat dissipation as a feature to market our fluting. -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:04:14 AM EDT
[#18]
Nice barrels! Any 20" scheduled?
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:35:54 AM EDT
[#19]
Might be time to upgrade my 6.5 Grendel barrel. Well done BA, looks perfect for what I need.
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Posted: 5/24/2017 9:47:14 AM EDT
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Nice barrels! Any 20" scheduled? -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 6:40:53 PM EDT
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I'll probably pick one up for my next build if they are ever available in black nitride!
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Posted: 6/9/2017 9:56:05 PM EDT
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Whatever happened to the 12.5" Hanson 5.56 barrels?
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Posted: 6/12/2017 12:11:13 PM EDT
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Whatever happened to the 12.5" Hanson 5.56 barrels? -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 12:23:08 PM EDT
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Tagged for my hunting build later this year
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Posted: 6/12/2017 10:25:57 PM EDT
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Wow Tony your post on the science of flutting freaking nailed it. Dead honest, no bull crap.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 10:11:19 AM EDT
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Wow Tony your post on the science of flutting freaking nailed it. Dead honest, no bull crap. Most certainly a no bull, no smoke and mirrors approach. -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 12:53:00 AM EDT
[#27]
Any idea when the 18" fluted barrel will be back in stock?
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Posted: 6/16/2017 6:15:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOur reasons for making fluted barrels is very simple.
1. It's light. 28 oz is pretty damn light for an 18" barrel. 2. Our customers wanted it. I can't count how many people have asked us for fluted barrels. We are heavily influenced by our loyal customers and what they want. However, let's settle some long-debated nonsense. This is fluting in a nutshell: A fluted barrel with any given weight will be more rigid than a government profile, non-fluted barrel of the same weight. A fluted barrel with any given outside diameter will be LESS RIGID than a non-fluted barrel of the same outside diameter, but will be CONSIDERABLY LIGHTER. Let's talk heat dissipation. It is absolute fact that an increased surface area will increase the rate at which energy (heat) radiates from a given object. It's why that beautiful ice sphere in my bourbon, waters down slower than cubes do. Less surface area, less heat transfer; More surface area, more heat transfer. A barrel of the same outside diameter will cool slower than a fluted one, for 2 reasons. Less mass to retain the heat, and larger surface area. But here is the most important part, you will not notice the increase very much. Go ahead, mag dump 120 rounds though our fluted barrel, wait a few minutes, then touch it. Be sure to treat your burns properly afterwards. Does it cool down faster? Sure. But does a couple of degrees per minute make a difference at 600+ F? Not really. You might have noticed, we have in no way used increased heat dissipation as a feature to market our fluting. -Tony @ BA I shot two identical profiled barrels, one fluted, one not, fluted heated a little faster than the non-fluted but cooled a little quicker once both barrels were up to the same temp. Not enough to be of any practical use, but that's what I found in my testing of two rifles, same caliber, same load, same barrel lengths, same profile, same material (ss) one fluted, one not. To me the ONLY field advantage is weight savings. The looks are a perk but IMO not an advantage. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 12:05:47 PM EDT
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Any idea when the 18" fluted barrel will be back in stock? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Any idea when the 18" fluted barrel will be back in stock? Quoted:
FINALLY someone being honest about what they are selling. I have done testing with fluted versus non-fluted barrels on rifles in my own collection and the above is EXACTLY what I have found to be true. The cooling aspect happens, you cannot argue physics, but it is really not that valuable an asset in the real world. While the amount of cooling is slightly faster with a fluted barrel, I also found that it heats up faster exactly for the same reason, less mass. Shoot ten rounds over 30 seconds and measure the temp, fluted will be little hotter. Bring both up to the same temp and let cool, the fluted will cool a little faster. I shot two identical profiled barrels, one fluted, one not, fluted heated a little faster than the non-fluted but cooled a little quicker once both barrels were up to the same temp. Not enough to be of any practical use, but that's what I found in my testing of two rifles, same caliber, same load, same barrel lengths, same profile, same material (ss) one fluted, one not. To me the ONLY field advantage is weight savings. The looks are a perk but IMO not an advantage. -Tony @ BA |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 4:14:29 PM EDT
[#30]
I have one on the way, can't wait to check it out!
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Posted: 6/21/2017 7:43:40 PM EDT
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You had me at bourbon.
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Posted: 6/25/2017 11:47:37 AM EDT
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Haven't finished breaking it in yet.
 Attached File Attached FileThe barrel came in at 31oz and not 28oz.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 6:46:08 PM EDT
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I want an 18" 5.56 and a 13.5" 6.5 Grendel, both fluted of course.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 9:58:03 PM EDT
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Haven't finished breaking it in yet. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299792/IMG-3384-238487.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299792/IMG-3387-238489.JPG The barrel came in at 31oz and not 28oz. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299792/IMG-3379-238492.JPG Weird |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 1:25:20 AM EDT
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3 oz diff. Wonder if they weighed it at 28oz less the barrel extension? Weird Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haven't finished breaking it in yet. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299792/IMG-3384-238487.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299792/IMG-3387-238489.JPG The barrel came in at 31oz and not 28oz. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299792/IMG-3379-238492.JPG Weird |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 5:16:51 PM EDT
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BA,
Any chance of getting these in a black finish? I am putting a SPR project together, and your rifle gas, and lighter weight have me sold, over a Larue barrel...just wish they were black.. -Tim |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 10:48:53 PM EDT
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BA, Any chance of getting these in a black finish? I am putting a SPR project together, and your rifle gas, and lighter weight have me sold, over a Larue barrel...just wish they were black.. -Tim |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 6:42:41 AM EDT
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While the amount of cooling is slightly faster with a fluted barrel, I also found that it heats up faster exactly for the same reason, less mass. ... I shot two identical profiled barrels, one fluted, one not, fluted heated a little faster than the non-fluted but cooled a little quicker once both barrels were up to the same temp. A fluted barrel is stiffer AND cools faster than an unfluted barrel of equal mass. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 1:49:02 AM EDT
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Dear Ballistic Advantage,
Please might you consider QPQ/Nitriding your 416R Stainless barrels to improve their wear properties and extend the barrel's life? Customers (like me) would be all over them if you did! Best wishes Steve |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 3:36:51 PM EDT
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Dear Ballistic Advantage, Please might you consider QPQ/Nitriding your 416R Stainless barrels to improve their wear properties and extend the barrel's life? Customers (like me) would be all over them if you did! Best wishes Steve |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:27:11 PM EDT
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Aww hell, putting together an 18" build with a LaRue Stealth and I run across this. Don't know if I should finish it...or build it with this one? Decisions, decisions...
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:54:39 PM EDT
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Any accuracy reports?
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Posted: 8/17/2017 12:39:48 AM EDT
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Any accuracy reports? I was able to consistently hit a 2/3 silhouette steel taget at 600 yards with a Vortex Viper PST 1-4. I ran a couple 20 round mags through it hitting steel from 100-400 yards as fast as I could with no noticeable degradation in accuracy as the barrel heated up. Remember that I'm not shooting for groups or anything, I'm just trying to make first round hits on steel targets. Best shots of the day were two back to back hits on a 2/3 silhouette at 800 yards off the back of an ATV. Probably could have done better if I was using more than a 4x scope
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Posted: 8/17/2017 1:29:59 AM EDT
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Interesting discussion on fluting...
So yes, given a fluted vs non-fluted of the SAME WEIGHT, the fluted will be stiffer because of the greater effective moment of inertia. The fluted barrel will also be physically larger in diameter as a result. For two barrels of the SAME DIAMETER, the non-fluted will be heavier and stiffer than the fluted barrel. Heat dissipation is a function of surface area, so fluting will always have greater surface area in either case. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 9:59:46 PM EDT
[#45]
When 20"?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 12:03:50 PM EDT
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I want an 18" 5.56 and a 13.5" 6.5 Grendel, both fluted of course. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:26:32 PM EDT
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When 20"? Planning a 20" rifle and was just about to order up a fluted 20" Faxon when I came across this thread. Would order a 20" BA with a pinned low pro right now! Black finish of course... 
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Posted: 8/20/2017 10:23:16 PM EDT
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So here's an odd question:
Kreiger and a couple other barrel manufacturers don't make or recommend lightweight profile or deeply fluted 416r barrels in cold climates, citing that if the steel as any sulfur stringing it might kaboom. Granted, that isn't an issue for 99.995% of the site, but since I'm in Alaska I thought it was relevant to see what you guys think on that. Mostly because that's exactly what I'd want in a barrel for my next build, but haven't been able to confirm/deny the above either. Do you think that's a potential issue or ? Worst case I'll look at a different barrel when I build a rifle, but was worth a shot to ask. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:45:46 AM EDT
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As of 8/22/17 you can order this barrel for a 25% discount
link to barrel is here: http://www.graniteridgeoutfitters.com/Ballistic-Advantage-18-223-Wylde-SPR-Fluted-SS-Rifle-Barrel-BABL223021PL.htm link to discount code is here: http://graniteridgeoutfitters.com/Barrels_c56.htm The site also carries several other BA barrels and they are all on sale. I have not done business with this vendor. I just thought it was a good discount to post here. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:17:14 AM EDT
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As of 8/22/17 you can order this barrel for a 25% discount link to barrel is here: http://www.graniteridgeoutfitters.com/Ballistic-Advantage-18-223-Wylde-SPR-Fluted-SS-Rifle-Barrel-BABL223021PL.htm link to discount code is here: http://graniteridgeoutfitters.com/Barrels_c56.htm The site also carries several other BA barrels and they are all on sale. I have not done business with this vendor. I just thought it was a good discount to post here. |
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