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Posted: 11/1/2012 12:02:30 PM EDT
12" All Billet Complete SBR We at Houston Armory are excited to announce the market's first ever line of all Billet and Forged, Integrally Suppressed, 300 Blackout AR-15 rifles. Our unique design features our own 8” proprietary stainless steel match grade barrels inside of our own Houston Armory Hand-guards. Our Integrally Suppressed Hand-guards are 2.4 inches in height and width and are constructed using 6061 Aircraft Grade Aluminum. Inside of the hand-guard you can find our own Stainless steel gas block with our logo along with our revolutionary monolithic baffle. During the design process we tried to make as much of the internals of our Suppressed Hand-guards in stainless steel as we could to ease with carbon buildup and removal while still providing a light manageable short barreled rifle for increased manipulation capabilities during CQB/LEO and hunting applications. This upper is driven by a M16 (heavy) bolt carrier group and comes in at under 5 pounds. Our Billet lowers will come equipped with a high grade match trigger and with an ambidextrous bolt release and safety and other ergonomic upgrades. An optional forged lower without our upgrade package will be available to those wishing customize their own rifle lowers. This gun was designed with the hunter and operator in mind and we believe this is the gun to fill the gap. It provides the end user with a short barreled rifle with a full 12" rail, in a suppressed package all while delivering a hearing safe supersonic 300 blackout round at over 2300fps accurately and effectively. Chambered in 7.62x35 (300 Blackout) 8” Stainless Steel Match Grade Barrel 1:8 Twist Ratio M4 Feed Ramps 7075 Class III Anodized Billet Upper 12” Hand-guard Machined from 6061 Aircraft Grade Aluminum Class III Anodized Grade 8 Machine Screws 3 Tango Down Scar Panels M16 (heavy) BCG Staked Gas key BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle 4.07 lb Upper receiver 27.5" overall length 7075 Class III Anodized Billet Lower w/ Built in ambi bolt release Ambidextrous Safety Geissele SSA trigger Vltor 6 position buffer tube Staked Castle Nut Ergo Grip and the users choice of either Magpul CTR or ACSI stock We have had 2 different rounds independently tested, with each shot recorded and then averaged. Each group includes the 1st round pop. 300 Remington 220gr 139.99 dB - 136.87 dB - 135.86 dB - 133.73 dB - 129.04 dB - 133.02 dB - 131.24 dB - 133.57 dB - 131.57 dB - 131.34 dB ––- (avg.) 133.622134 dB 300 Remington 125gr Match 134.44 dB - 132.63 dB - 132.17 dB - 133.99 dB - 134.95 dB - 134.98 dB - 133.79 dB - 135.61dB - 132.87 dB - 136.09 dB ––- (avg.) 134.151678 dB 
Contact us directly: 281-208-GUNS(4867) or Email [email protected] for inquiries or more information or you can order off of our products page at www.HoustonArmory.com |
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Posted: 11/1/2012 8:54:43 PM EDT
[#1]
This is going to be good! I can't wait to ck these out.
DBAR |
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Posted: 11/1/2012 10:26:47 PM EDT
[#2]
they are in stock ready to go. Its a 2 tax stamp gun however, if you do not already have a SBRd lower.
we will be introducing our line of integrally suppressed 300 blackout uppers within the next 24 hours so stay tuned! |
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Posted: 11/1/2012 10:51:33 PM EDT
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Sorry, that's not the first integrally suppressed 300 blkout sbr on the market, . A manufacturer in Arkansas has been doing them for over a year.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 12:10:23 AM EDT
[#4]
 Out of my price range, but very sexy. |
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Posted: 11/2/2012 5:42:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Very nice -
Can't wait to see the integral. (will it be serviceable? ) Are you going to be offering them in any other calibers (556 or 6.8) and possibly a little longer barrels (~11.5") |
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Posted: 11/2/2012 6:16:04 AM EDT
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Very nice - Can't wait to see the integral. (will it be serviceable? ) Are you going to be offering them in any other calibers (556 or 6.8) and possibly a little longer barrels (~11.5") Well this right here is our full integral gun, if you watch the video you can see how our design works and how it all goes together. Yes, it is serviceable too, the inside of the suppressor is all stainless to ease with carbon buildup and removal. We are blackout guys, and well, we were designing this for mainly operators and hunters in mind so that is why we started with 300 blackout, to get them the gun as fast as possible. We are ironing out the final stuff and are working on a 5.56 version. Yes. By this time next year you can expect to find a full line of 300 blackout and 5.56 integrally suppressed guns. We could make the barrel longer, but there simply just is no need. The 8" of barrel gives the 300 blackout round plenty of time to cook up pressure behind it and still leaves us enough room to drop a baffle stack that fits under our 12" hand-guard. |
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Posted: 11/2/2012 7:34:45 AM EDT
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Sorry, that's not the first integrally suppressed 300 blkout sbr on the market, . A manufacturer in Arkansas has been doing them for over a year. I know who you are talking about now. and yes they may call those integrally suppressed guns, but that is not a true integral. If you look closely you can see the barrel and gas block underneath the rail and where the suppressor comes back underneath the rail. That's just a SBR with a suppressor that fits under the rail. Cool, but not integral. If you watch the video on my add you will see what we mean by integral. All the components of the suppressor are contained inside the hand-guard, thus making it a true integrally suppressed gun |
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Posted: 11/2/2012 8:01:50 AM EDT
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It is truely an awesome looking concept. But two tax stamps plus the gun are just killing it for me.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 10:35:24 AM EDT
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Looks nice. :-) How hot does the hand guard get? Will it handle full auto fire? |
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Posted: 11/2/2012 11:44:17 AM EDT
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Looks nice. :-) How hot does the hand guard get? Will it handle full auto fire? full auto? why yes of course  we run beta mags in full auto to test our guns. This gun will handle it.
We have plenty of these guns that have been through multiple courses and are operating just fine with the high round count courses. The hand guard gets hot enough that we advise you either run scar panels or wear gloves. But aside from dropping 2 beta mags through our gun in less than 2 mins we really dont see any overheating issues 
you know us 
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Posted: 11/2/2012 11:52:23 AM EDT
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Okay... I'm not trying to be a smart-ass. This is an honest question.
Why bother with an integral can if it is still a 2-stamp gun? I own a few 2-stamp guns, but if I went with an integral can it would be to AVOID having to get 2 stamps (Making the OAL 16" with the integral can so it's not an SBR). What is the benefit of doing it this way instead of a normal SBR with a QD can? |
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Posted: 11/2/2012 12:49:50 PM EDT
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Okay... I'm not trying to be a smart-ass. This is an honest question. Why bother with an integral can if it is still a 2-stamp gun? I own a few 2-stamp guns, but if I went with an integral can it would be to AVOID having to get 2 stamps (Making the OAL 16" with the integral can so it's not an SBR). What is the benefit of doing it this way instead of a normal SBR with a QD can? the benefits we have found are quite numerous, your shooting a 300 blackout out of a 12" upper receiver that is still very hearing safe. If you get a thread on/mount style suppressor that goes on the end of your barrel you see how that quickly adds much more length to the platform than what we are offering. you ask a great question, this issue will be addressed with our 16" integrals coming out in the future 
notice, I did say this model is designed for our Operators and hunters in mind who would like a more compact gun for their use. But your question is a very good point, we asked ourselves the same thing. So we will be providing people with both length guns, as well as the option to just buy the uppers for people such as yourself.
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http://profile-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ash3/41784_410147630603_3666297_n.jpg Out of my price range, but very sexy. this gun is not made out of unobtainium, if you are a Texas resident we offer in house financing at 2.99%. As long as you have paid your bills, and you haven't killed anyone (and been caught) you can own this gun .
for those of you would be more inclined to buy just the upper as asked, HERE IT IS for those who already have a SBR'd lower receiver. |
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Posted: 11/2/2012 5:17:42 PM EDT
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they are in stock ready to go. Its a 2 tax stamp gun however, if you do not already have a SBRd lower. we will be introducing our line of integrally suppressed 300 blackout uppers within the next 24 hours so stay tuned! In stock? Cool, the shop I work at is a class III dealer, and the boss just ordered a couple, and one of them is going to be a store demo. I''ve got an SBR, so the upper will probably be the "ticket" for me, just trying to get some money put together. I was curious about the heat that this puts out, but you already seemed to have answered that. I'm still going to have to wait until we get the one in for the shop before I pull the trigger on one, still want to put a few mags through one first. DBAR |
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Posted: 11/3/2012 5:11:13 AM EDT
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the benefits we have found are quite numerous, your shooting a 300 blackout out of a 12" upper receiver that is still very hearing safe. I am not trying to be argumentative here, but 133.4 dB is far from hearing safe.....Noise induced hearing loss is noted to occur at levels at or above 85dBA. With many of your commercial hearing protective devices(plugs) being rated at 33dB NRR, you are still well above 100dB (assuming you are applying the appropriate attenuation to the NRR/2 - 7) Even if you use plugs and muffs, and additional 5dB in attenuation still leaves this above 100dB My recommendation would be to still wear hearing protection with these noise levels...... |
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Posted: 11/3/2012 7:31:25 AM EDT
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the benefits we have found are quite numerous, your shooting a 300 blackout out of a 12" upper receiver that is still very hearing safe. I am not trying to be argumentative here, but 133.4 dB is far from hearing safe.....Noise induced hearing loss is noted to occur at levels at or above 85dBA. With many of your commercial hearing protective devices(plugs) being rated at 33dB NRR, you are still well above 100dB (assuming you are applying the appropriate attenuation to the NRR/2 - 7) Even if you use plugs and muffs, and additional 5dB in attenuation still leaves this above 100dB My recommendation would be to still wear hearing protection with these noise levels...... yup, ours too, but watch this, to put your ears and mind at ease, take this into perspective. We stood next to this decibel meter, in the same state of the art testing facility and make a hand clap the registered119Db. I think you are just looking at 1 final number and making an assumption. You have to take into consideration the size, the length of the gun, the fact that we have a 8" barrel with a 4" baffle stack on top of it, the fact that that average includes the 1st round pop out of a clean gun (because if you don't, your avg Db rating looks much more attractive), the fact my SBR is about half a foot shorter than someone else's suppressed MK18, its quieter, and its delivering a .30 bullet. Do you mow your lawn without hearing protection? take 30 seconds and google the average decibel rating of a law mower or a tractor. Those kinds of customers are not what we are catering to. If our objective was to make an as quiet as possible gun then we wouldn't have made the gun short. We made this with the operator in mind, not the silencer enthusiast. Like its been said earlier, we will be coming out with our other models later like 16" uppers that will obviously produce a more quiet result, that will probably be when you wanna tune in. We just wanted to get this one out first because of the LEO/hunters. ETA: if you watch the video at the end of my OP you can hear our owner shooting it out at the TTPOA conference out on the range. |
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Posted: 11/3/2012 12:51:42 PM EDT
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I like it, but was wondering if you bought one could the rail be cut back a little on request for more of an "MP5SD" look?
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Posted: 11/3/2012 2:16:32 PM EDT
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I like it, but was wondering if you bought one could the rail be cut back a little on request for more of an "MP5SD" look? we can make one for you like that, yes of course. We could achieve that look for you a number of different ways. |
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Posted: 11/6/2012 7:52:34 AM EDT
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Here in WA, we can't have SBRs. Is a longer (non-SBR) integrally suppressed barrel an option?
Never mind. I found your post, below, on another forum: heck, one of them, to be our soon to debut 16" integrally suppressed upper, tested like this...
16" 300 220gr - 134.72 - 126.31 - 123.99 - 127.34 - 126.44 - 123.47 - 125.84 - 123.71 - 126.62 - 124.61..... 126.305 16" 300 125gr - 130.28 - 129.62 - 130.44 - 128.10 - 128.01 - 128.55 - 128.48 - 129.36 - 129.58 - 132.12..... 129.454283 
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Posted: 11/6/2012 6:58:22 PM EDT
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Here in WA, we can't have SBRs. Is a longer (non-SBR) integrally suppressed barrel an option? Never mind. I found your post, below, on another forum: heck, one of them, to be our soon to debut 16" integrally suppressed upper, tested like this...
16" 300 220gr - 134.72 - 126.31 - 123.99 - 127.34 - 126.44 - 123.47 - 125.84 - 123.71 - 126.62 - 124.61..... 126.305 16" 300 125gr - 130.28 - 129.62 - 130.44 - 128.10 - 128.01 - 128.55 - 128.48 - 129.36 - 129.58 - 132.12..... 129.454283 yep, I just got a box full of 16" integral suppressed upper receiver sleeves in the mail 
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Posted: 11/10/2012 1:48:48 PM EDT
[#20]
I was looking on your site. Is there way I can get that lower in 5.56? Or is that lower specific to that SBR? It looks sweet!!!
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Posted: 11/11/2012 5:57:25 PM EDT
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I was looking on your site. Is there way I can get that lower in 5.56? Or is that lower specific to that SBR? It looks sweet!!! 300blk uses the same lower as 223./5.56. Looks like it's a Seekins lower made for HA |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 9:40:02 AM EDT
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I was looking on your site. Is there way I can get that lower in 5.56? Or is that lower specific to that SBR? It looks sweet!!! 300blk uses the same lower as 223./5.56. Looks like it's a Seekins lower made for HA exactly! the first run of them were made for us by Glenn up at Seekins, the next batch will be an all billet HA (only) receiver, but yes you should be able to order them off of our website |
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Posted: 11/25/2012 4:10:28 PM EDT
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Not trying to be a Smart ass but Im not sure I understand Integrally suppressed.
Ive been in Jebs shop played with his weapons and shot some. He starts with a barrel blank of whatever diameter it is and turns down what he doesnt need and mills away for the suppressor and ends with a one piece barrel / suppressor unit IF thats not truely integrally suppressed then please explain the difference. As I said Im not trying to be a smart ass but I dont want to be a dumbass that doesnt know what the terminology is either. Larry |
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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:52:59 PM EDT
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Not trying to be a Smart ass but Im not sure I understand Integrally suppressed. Ive been in Jebs shop played with his weapons and shot some. He starts with a barrel blank of whatever diameter it is and turns down what he doesnt need and mills away for the suppressor and ends with a one piece barrel / suppressor unit IF thats not truely integrally suppressed then please explain the difference. As I said Im not trying to be a smart ass but I dont want to be a dumbass that doesnt know what the terminology is either. Larry Not at all Larry, you ask a very good question and this has been asked many times. I have to explain this quite often so I get better and better at it every time 
So your guy Jeb starts with a single barrel blank and turns down the barrel and uses the front to mill into a suppressor making it a once piece barrel and suppressor. Yes they are both integral with each other because they cannot come apart. So by that definition you are correct. However.... If you watch our video and read my original post it explains it quite thoroughly. As you can see we start with our 8" blackout barrels and slide our hand-guard down over the top of it. Then we take and drop our proprietary baffle stack down into the hand-guard and thread it onto the barrel so that it closes off and seals the front of the hand-guard making a completely contained integrally suppressed upper receiver. The gas block, the barrel, everything is enclosed inside the 12" hand-guard making for the shortest quietest 300 blackout rifle on the market. ... .. . That's a challenge
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:15:20 AM EDT
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How can you honestly say you made the industry first when Armtac has been making them since March of 2011??????
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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:52:48 PM EDT
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How can you honestly say you made the industry first when Armtac has been making them since March of 2011?????? Hi, welcome to AR15.com
because what they make is completely different than what we make. If our product was a suppressor that did not come off the end of the barrel and that's what I was marketing then no, it would not be the industry first. But that's not what I am marketing. I am marketing and entire integrally suppressed upper receiver.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 3:13:25 PM EDT
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Correct me if need be
for this to be a single stamp item either the barrel and baffle stack must be one piece and longer than 16 inches? the barrel and hand guard must be one piece and longer than 16 inches? Like a 14.7 inch barrel with a flash hider permanently attached to reach 16 inches. |
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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:01:25 PM EDT
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Correct me if need be for this to be a single stamp item either the barrel and baffle stack must be one piece and longer than 16 inches? the barrel and hand guard must be one piece and longer than 16 inches? Like a 14.7 inch barrel with a flash hider permanently attached to reach 16 inches. yes, the barrel and baffle stack must be one piece and longer than 16 inches, your understanding is correct. and your in luck! we're about to come out with one of those too! Here |
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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:55:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:29:36 AM EDT
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And it appears that you have also made the first AR-15 laser rifle...
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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:07:06 AM EDT
[#31]
That seems like a really good price for that. (I have a lot more than $2850 in my suppressed .300 BLK SBR.)
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Posted: 12/27/2012 7:10:34 AM EDT
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Just showed these to my boss who has been planning on building a sbr suppressed 300 blk in the near future. We will see what he says but my guess is he will be ordering one soon! Damn good looking product and innovative design. Can't wait to see it in action.
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Posted: 12/27/2012 7:06:25 PM EDT
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That seems like a really good price for that. (I have a lot more than $2850 in my suppressed .300 BLK SBR.) THANK YOU! its nice to see someone who has actually built one to come and step up and admit the math to building a 2 stamp gun! |
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