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Posted: 1/7/2008 2:55:27 PM EDT
We have some black powder enthusiast among are ranks. We were basically trying to replicate a 20" Gov't profile.
To fire, the powder charge and bullet are loaded via a ramrod. Using a standard magazine with a single shot follower, an unloaded 5.56 case is loaded into the mag, inserted in magazine well and loaded just like a standard rifle. Once the rifle is fired, the empty brass is ejected manually and then reloaded.  Here is a quick demo vid... Black powder demo vid We tested it with 6 pellets and 2 bullets(and a very very long string) and it held together just fine. Now it is off to MP test. |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 3:02:08 PM EDT
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so you load the powder and bullet like a normal blackpowder rifle and use a primed 5.56 case to prime the charge? what cal? how much? i am kinda intrested
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Posted: 1/7/2008 3:10:50 PM EDT
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It is a modified .223 case that uses a 209 primer. Currently .50 cal. Should have pricing and other specs tomorrow.
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Posted: 1/7/2008 3:24:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2008 3:25:48 PM EDT
[#4]
no kidding. Very Very interesting answer to the ammo crunch! |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 3:47:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Tell us more. Price, availability, options????
Now this I like!  A wonderful option for black powder hunting.
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Posted: 1/7/2008 3:51:28 PM EDT
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Couldn't you pre-prime a magfull of the special cases, load a magazine, and have semi-auto black powder goodness? hmmm.... |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:11:39 PM EDT
[#7]
Can you imagine the face of an unsuspecting
game warden the first time he runs across these.. 
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:17:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Somewhere, Jim Zumbo's head is exploding.
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:19:25 PM EDT
[#9]
How about a .50 flintlock for those of us in PA??
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:22:47 PM EDT
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dude a flintlock ar15 would own i would buy one easy, for what it is worth i am going to put a rail system light bipod and paq4 on mine for the win
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:28:09 PM EDT
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I would like to see a .50 flintlock AR, and instead of an actual magazine, hollow out an AR magazine to hold the patches, balls, etc.
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:33:25 PM EDT
[#12]
I laughed out loud
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:45:17 PM EDT
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This is so wrong.... that it's just so good!
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:50:23 PM EDT
[#14]
I just saw something like this on the Tromix website yesterday.
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:51:24 PM EDT
[#15]
Ye blaspheme!!
This is wrong and more than wrong! |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:53:30 PM EDT
[#16]
I could see myself hunting with that. Imgine the look on the GW's face when they see that thing. LOL
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Posted: 1/7/2008 5:15:55 PM EDT
[#17]
I have a TC Pro Hunter in 50cal. I'm very interested in price.
Thanks |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 5:49:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Thats pretty cool!!!
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Posted: 1/7/2008 6:03:13 PM EDT
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Whoa, never saw this one coming.
Yeah, this is really gonna get Zumbo twisted around the axle! 
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Posted: 1/7/2008 6:36:22 PM EDT
[#20]
that is awesome!
I never would have imagined something like that. |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 8:05:22 PM EDT
[#21]
Finally a use for my MOLLE powder horn kit!
 That is a really cool idea! 
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Posted: 1/7/2008 8:35:39 PM EDT
[#22]
hey if you don't land the shot at least you'll have time to escape in the smoke cloud
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Posted: 1/7/2008 9:02:15 PM EDT
[#23]
I can't wait to see a Fudd shit himself when you go out during black powder season with one of those.
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Posted: 1/8/2008 2:56:57 AM EDT
[#24]
 That would be awesome. |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 3:08:37 AM EDT
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IIRC, they sold the one they had, and have no desire to make anymore. As far as this one, I'm not really keen on the loaded case for the primer. |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 3:09:49 AM EDT
[#26]
Well, it's nice in that it's self capping, but it wouldn't be semi auto as you'd still need load the powder and bullet via the muzzle. |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 3:39:11 AM EDT
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Maybe we won't have to worry about a smoke cloud. We have, under development, the uber cool "smoke brake". Similar to a flash hider or muzzle brake, it eliminates all smoke. j/k
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Posted: 1/8/2008 3:42:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:52:51 AM EDT
[#29]
This isn't a loaded case, it is a 209 primer in a piece of .223 brass. There is no way a live round or a blank will load into the "chamber". Jeff |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:20:11 AM EDT
[#30]
Eagerly awaiting the m203 37mm black powder rifle/launcher
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:53:47 AM EDT
[#31]
Here is a quick demo vid...
Black powder demo vid We tested it with 6 pellets and 2 bullets(and a very very long string) and it held together just fine. Now it is off to MP test. |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:07:34 AM EDT
[#32]
You guys make some great products. But I really don't se a point to this. Would the R and D cost would not make it worth wild to produce? It seems like a nice novelty but nothing else. But, I think you guys build a great AR!
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:13:02 AM EDT
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LAWL! I want to be the first one at my range to pop off one of these.. Watch all the old bastards who hate us "Black Riflers" Shit themselves.. CXS |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:15:14 AM EDT
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Is that a standard lower with a specialty upper? My quest is to have a few lowers in different configurations and multiple uppers that can be swapped around depending on the situation. Total "modular" rifle system. This would be a great (and novel) addition.
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:15:37 AM EDT
[#35]
It needs a bayo lug and a threaded bbl
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:43:36 AM EDT
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One issue that I can see arising is that of a fully featured AR lower not considered a firearm...
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Posted: 1/8/2008 9:16:00 AM EDT
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As an NRA Black Powder insturctor, I get dibs on the beta test unit. I'll let my students shoot it and introduce them to the true versatility of the AR system.
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Posted: 1/8/2008 9:17:15 AM EDT
[#38]
That is cool. One of those with a flat top upper would be really nice. How do you clean the "nipple" and is it replaceable?
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Posted: 1/8/2008 9:29:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Understood my error the minute I hit submit All the same, I can see this thing drawing quite a crowd at blackpowder events. Hell, it'd be a riot in IPSC
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Posted: 1/8/2008 9:45:43 AM EDT
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Holy crap, just wait till word of this gets to Carol McCarthy. This will go right to the top of the list.
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Posted: 1/8/2008 10:00:27 AM EDT
[#41]
Kudos to CMMG, just awesome.
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Posted: 1/8/2008 2:29:44 PM EDT
[#42]
I'd almost buy it for that reason. But the one shoot I do doesn't allow inlines, or aperature sights. |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 2:55:29 PM EDT
[#43]
that's a shame. Just watched the video, seems easy enough. CMMG, are these in production yet? |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:38:40 PM EDT
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I will take one, or maybe two, what the hell, give me three. a new strain of BRD
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:43:52 PM EDT
[#45]
That's pretty cool ... what's the price?
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:57:03 PM EDT
[#46]
BRD Blackpowder Rifle disease lol
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:17:05 PM EDT
[#47]
Hence my comment. It would be a great way to lure young shooters into blackpowder. |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:31:48 PM EDT
[#48]
very cool
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Posted: 1/8/2008 8:11:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:25:42 AM EDT
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Thanks, but I'll keep my Beowulf.
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