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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:15:08 AM EDT
I picked up my Troy GAU-5A/A today and wanted to share the unboxing photos for those of you who are curious how close they came to the real thing. While not perfect, I'm pretty happy with it and the package of extras. This model is what they call the pre-ban version. Price was $1,200 + shipping. Let me know if there's another picture or angle you'd like to see and I'll try to accommodate. If anyone has a line on a Singlepoint OEG scope and handle mount to go with it, please let me know.
I'm told I don't have enough posts here yet for my photos to show up in the thread, so here are the links to the album and individual pictures. Imgur Album http://imgur.com/a/u3AEn Individual Imgur Pictures http://imgur.com/4WUZ14k http://imgur.com/RqPsiYD http://imgur.com/gjN8CUe http://imgur.com/wkfEkCN http://imgur.com/ZVZpc55 http://imgur.com/hB5LCcJ http://imgur.com/UL35vss http://imgur.com/UBItvhR http://imgur.com/6ws4m0j http://imgur.com/frcm8H0 http://imgur.com/kmts4jQ http://imgur.com/JyElHIO http://imgur.com/iuwfT1E http://imgur.com/y8Iz6Uz http://imgur.com/Q62VKcY http://imgur.com/Q62VKcY http://imgur.com/GNouOm7 http://imgur.com/fHOOvKj http://imgur.com/mQGydbN http://imgur.com/jP9sWWe http://imgur.com/pYzgcYW http://imgur.com/uiQTZYi http://imgur.com/fZO7nxx http://imgur.com/uTWbdx9 http://imgur.com/Wvckb5R http://imgur.com/i7a5HpC http://imgur.com/drM9g5Z http://imgur.com/lQCOxD6 http://imgur.com/3cPuhTE |
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Nice gat. To follow up, you CAN post photos - they just have to approved by Team Members before they will display. And you actually have to post the complete link to the photo, instead of just the URL to the imgur page. The actual link will end in .jpg
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It looks like they got most of the details correct, pretty nice! Is that a gray "spray-on" finish applied over black anodizing?
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Hard to say about the gray color - I might need to look at it closer in the sunlight. The walls of the FCG housing are black but the magwell interior is gray. It might be that the black is the coated part. There is no indication of overspray nor wear due to scrapes/abrasion that might indicate a gray coating.
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Looks good I cancelled mine when they told me the Troy logo was going on the mag well.{ I ordered wanting it without}...Took the money and bought a 65 date SP-1, Happy now but would have liked the Troy the way I wanted. Hey congrats and enjoy it. Better than bucks in the bank now.
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Very nice, especially for an "off the rack" retro.
To my eyes, it looks to be sprayed with Norrell's over black anodizing (you can see some overspray in the magwell and some black is showing through where the port door pad is hitting the lower). |
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Pretty nice rifle. They really put in some effort to make a quality clone.
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Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious...
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what stock did they use? ESSENTIAL ARMS ? Is it powder coated or vinyl coated?
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WOW! I AM jealous! That is not a bad price, especially for someone like me in Californistan who can not get an original SP1 Carbine because they are a felony here.
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The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google xm177E2 manual and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version. Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album. http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious... The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google xm177E2 manual and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version. Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album. http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. |
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Quoted: The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious... The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google xm177E2 manual and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version. Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album. http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. |
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The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious... The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google xm177E2 manual and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version. Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album. http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. Wow - thanks for your dedication to the craft. It looks to be the same version only that mine doesn't have punch holes. I took two sample (dark) photos for you and added them to the album. Here are the individual pics. |
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The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious... The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google xm177E2 manual and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version. Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album. http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. C, I had a feeling you suspected it was a copy of your remake. Now you have ....umm...........would notoriety be the word I'm looking for? |
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The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious... The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google xm177E2 manual and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version. Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album. http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. Interesting Know of a source for a physical copy of your version? |
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Quoted: Interesting Know of a source for a physical copy of your version? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would you mind posting a picture of the illustrations in the blue manual? The front cover has me a bit curious... The blue book looks to be an exact copy of the original manual. I found one someone already scanned in and made public on a Google Drive. I would post the link but it's huge. Instead, Google xm177E2 manual and it's likely that your first result will be that scanned in version. Troy did include one extra (loose) page at the back of the book describing sling installation. I've scanned that and added it to the original imgur album. http://i.imgur.com/csXoiFD.png The reason I ask, is because I made that one. The shape of the 7's on the front cover are a dead give away. I was asking to see the illustrations because I wanted to make sure. I re-illustrated the entire manual to be more clear. The originals were pretty poorly made, mostly all photocopies. I forget who scanned it, but I gave him permission to post it on Google a few years ago. I guess it's making it's way around. Really nice looking rifle though. They seem to have done their research on it. Interesting Know of a source for a physical copy of your version? |
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Looks pretty good if you can get over who manufactured it.
Notable issues: - Machining on the front of the receiver looks sloppy. - Should have left the roll mark logo off of the magwell, and moved the manufactures info to the front. - Should have been anodized. - No sear block. |
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God that's sweet! Gives me the warm & fuzzies --- just like a soft, fluffy puppy and warm chocolate cookies. |
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Yah that's your manual you gave me permission to host. Lol your famous now. That was a few years ago so the manual must have been spread around a lot. Here it is! I hosted it for the retro forum to download. Troy must have gotten a hold of it.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9hAva_yxlzPdU12am1DWTgzY1E |
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Wow - thanks for your dedication to the craft. It looks to be the same version only that mine doesn't have punch holes. I took two sample (dark) photos for you and added them to the album. Here are the individual pics. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Wow - thanks for your dedication to the craft. It looks to be the same version only that mine doesn't have punch holes. I took two sample (dark) photos for you and added them to the album. Here are the individual pics. Thanks, and thanks for the pics. It's definitely the version I made. Troy's version is "accurate", I have a real one that's bound the same way with no punch holes. Quoted:
C, I had a feeling you suspected it was a copy of your remake. Now you have ....umm...........would notoriety be the word I'm looking for? I don't know if it's notoriety but, it's definitely something. |
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Looks pretty good if you can get over who manufactured it. Notable issues: - Machining on the front of the receiver looks sloppy. - Should have left the roll mark logo off of the magwell, and moved the manufactures info to the front. - Should have been anodized. - No sear block. View Quote Agreed on all points. I especially wish they left their logo off of it - totally unnecessary if you're putting a replica out there. The initial marketing for the rifle showed it without the logo. I can only imagine some executive along the way stepped in and overturned the few passionate retro-heads who were championing the project. I was also originally disappointed with the delta slip ring but then more research suggests that the delta is correct. |
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One of the first fifty would have been mine.{but with logo on} it was a no go for me . A decent rifle for the price.it was Karma because like I said after I cancelled the ORDER The SP-1 1965 model came up for sale.Sure not that model. but for me now the SP-1 will keep me happy. Let the crew know how it shoots. Since its not keep sealed forever category. I like the Manual and goody package. enjoy and have fun.And thanks for the post and info.
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I am so purple with envy you can call me Prince. What, too soon..?
CONGRATS..! |
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57Octane, you should have hosted the first version with the mis-spelling. Would be easy to tell if it was yours that way. <a href="http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/5A1290CC-64D1-4375-834E-1EBCF7142A9D_zpsngxcxzfa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/5A1290CC-64D1-4375-834E-1EBCF7142A9D_zpsngxcxzfa.jpg</a> View Quote That was an embarrassing oversight. It got carried through like... 7 revisions and versions without me noticing. There are plenty of others "tells" in it as it stands though. I may have put my initials into an illustration but, I can't remember. It'd be cool if I did. |
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Well since they have released the XM177E2 model with F/A/ and no logo mag well. I had to order one, It will fill the Retro space that has been empty for almost 30 year's.Glad the original poster liked his and posted all the pic's.I am sure they did get a few more sales out of it but most important the donation's to a good cause.
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Well since they have released the XM177E2 model with F/A/ and no logo mag well. I had to order one, It will fill the Retro space that has been empty for almost 30 year's.Glad the original poster liked his and posted all the pic's.I am sure they did get a few more sales out of it but most important the donation's to a good cause. View Quote Yep. Personally I can overlook the wrong dust cover and slots on the moderator... but I can't overlook their logo. For guys like me who dislike the Troy logo.... their XM177 is the way to go. |
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I understand the manufacture thing and all marking and who made it.
But heck they can stamp it some other way no so easy to spot space and be done with it. like some companies with some big import stamp on items.Yet others mark a small stamp and places you can not find quickly. I am glad the mag well is marked the way it is on the Troy XM177E2 They took the hint from someone, And this is going to be a light shooter for me so the 1200 is not a issue. And I plan on buying the Colt when they arrive with those also. I had two originals back in the day and miss them greatly. And looking back and selling them at the time for 4000 buck's.was okay, but in todays market a Mortal sin! Well over 30 years ago there was not many collectors besides REED Myself, Burt, Bob Miller, Vollmer and a few others looking for them. At the time it was letters and phone calls and gun shows to locate.and 98% of the makers importers and dealer's had not even been around. back in 1965 to 1975> 1945 was retro.. |
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Hey,are the pics of sling installation correct? If so any idea how long the para cord needs to be on FSB end to be able to feed buttstock through? Doing E2 build I have read Va-gunnut Doc mike post on information link. Just trying to get all info I can. And buy the way...would an E2 have forging flash removed on FSB and would there be a hole under front sight post? cannot seem to nail that down
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