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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:24:15 PM EDT
With all the craze being over MLOK and Keymod these days, Im considering going back to the roots and grabbing a Picatinny Free Float. Obviously Daniel Defense makes some of the best. What are some other companies though? I know of the KAC Free Float rail
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The Gen 1 series are on clearance. https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=439
Nothing old school about it, just the basic stuff that works. |
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Midwest Industries T series. View Quote I second this. http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=219 |
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I find a slim quad rail with ergo ladder covers to he as comfortable without gloves as anything. And it's better in the cold or hot than some smooth metal rails unless you buy really freaking expensive mlok/keymod/SS rail covers.
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You'll cheese-grater your hand off, kid. View Quote Not necessarily. There are Picatinny based free float rails that are modular that are completely smooth except where you put small mini rails. My Daniel Defense MFR 12 is like that. I run only a small 3" Picatinny at the bottom front for a bipod, and another at 45 degree offset (yes it permits that) at the right rear of the free float for a mini reflex. It is but one example. You do not have to go full quad or MLok or KeyMod. There are other options. I QD mount accessories to those Picatinny mini rails, which are placed only as and where needed. . This way I never have to go out and buy new stuff just to mount accessories. |
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I second this. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/jamesrea%202012/051_zps721e14ef.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea%202012/051_zps721e14ef.jpg</a> http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=219 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Midwest Industries T series. I second this. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/jamesrea%202012/051_zps721e14ef.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea%202012/051_zps721e14ef.jpg</a> http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=219 This! I have a Gen 2 that I really like! |
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DD RIS ii is the best quad rail, expensive but damn sexy. " />
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DD RIS ii is the best quad rail, expensive but damn sexy. http://<a href=http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/94SVTsnake/2015-07/B3F43B5D-270E-4211-89F2-845B5470EA1D.jpg</a>" /> View Quote all that rail space and nothing mounted? |
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LaRue.
They dehorn 'em and they won't cheese-grater your hand like a Danirl Defense will. |
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I've been thinking about doing it for a while too... I love the MLOK, but there is just something dead sexy about a quad rail
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This, the C4 rails are definitely my favorite hands down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Centurion Arms C4 rail is my favorite This, the C4 rails are definitely my favorite hands down. Centurion Arms puts a lot of time into their machine work. |
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Quoted: LaRue. They dehorn 'em and they won't cheese-grater your hand like a Danirl Defense will. View Quote This. LT is my go to quad rail. The "profile" is very nice-slim in width and a tucked in bottom rail. I can't stand the "I-beam" shapes some rails offer. LT rails are on discount right now from their website if you are looking to make a purchase. http://www.larue.com/ar15-handguards?sort=popular |
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I just put a Larue on my newest build and I'm in live. 3, 6, and 9 o'clock are tucked in for a more comfortable grip and and it is super secure. The machining is excellent and for being a 1913 rail it is not an absolute cheese grater.
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LaRue. They dehorn 'em and they won't cheese-grater your hand like a Danirl Defense will. View Quote -_- With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) |
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-_- With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LaRue. They dehorn 'em and they won't cheese-grater your hand like a Danirl Defense will. -_- With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) Right ?!? Honestly, sometimes the keymods are like little razor blades. Channeling your skin into the thin aluminum. I like dumping the weight of "cheese graters", but i do believe my Colt Socom might see a DD ris II within the next year. |
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With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) View Quote I use DD rails without covers, ever since their first rails came out (the ancient locking collar ones that similar to KAC and copied by everyone). I've never had a problem. I have pretty much every mainstream quality rail, and have only had a problem with one which was razor sharp on the back end. I figure it was accidental or an oversight, but it wasn't any of the rails talked about in this thread. |
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all that rail space and nothing mounted? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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DD RIS ii is the best quad rail, expensive but damn sexy. http://<a href=http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/94SVTsnake/2015-07/B3F43B5D-270E-4211-89F2-845B5470EA1D.jpg</a>" /> all that rail space and nothing mounted? That's because it weights over 10lbs already........................great rail but face it, the things a pig. |
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-_- With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LaRue. They dehorn 'em and they won't cheese-grater your hand like a Danirl Defense will. -_- With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) I work cattle, weld, run heavy equipment, fly airplanes, work with my hands all my life. The last two Daniel Defense rails I owned, A RIS II and a LITE III literally cut my hands all up just from handling. Stupid sharp. Never felt a LaRue or a KAC like that. |
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DD RIS ii is the best quad rail, expensive but damn sexy. http://<a href=http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/94SVTsnake/2015-07/B3F43B5D-270E-4211-89F2-845B5470EA1D.jpg</a>" /> View Quote Second, RIS II is the best rail! |
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I work cattle, weld, run heavy equipment, fly airplanes, work with my hands all my life. The last two Daniel Defense rails I owned, A RIS II and a LITE III literally cut my hands all up just from handling. Stupid sharp. Never felt a LaRue or a KAC like that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LaRue. They dehorn 'em and they won't cheese-grater your hand like a Danirl Defense will. -_- With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) I work cattle, weld, run heavy equipment, fly airplanes, work with my hands all my life. The last two Daniel Defense rails I owned, A RIS II and a LITE III literally cut my hands all up just from handling. Stupid sharp. Never felt a LaRue or a KAC like that. You're either unlucky as hell, or squeezing onto that rail for your dear life. I don't even run rail covers anymore on ris 2s or M4 ras', just found it to be unnecessary extra weight with no advantages for me. Naked 1913 rails for the win! |
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You're either unlucky as hell, or squeezing onto that rail for your dear life. I don't even run rail covers anymore on ris 2s or M4 ras', just found it to be unnecessary extra weight with no advantages for me. Naked 1913 rails for the win! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LaRue. They dehorn 'em and they won't cheese-grater your hand like a Danirl Defense will. -_- With how often i read this, 90 percent of ARFCOM must have the hands of a teenage girl. I have never once felt any sort of pain or discomfort from holding any pic rail (that includes 2 DD RIS II's) I work cattle, weld, run heavy equipment, fly airplanes, work with my hands all my life. The last two Daniel Defense rails I owned, A RIS II and a LITE III literally cut my hands all up just from handling. Stupid sharp. Never felt a LaRue or a KAC like that. You're either unlucky as hell, or squeezing onto that rail for your dear life. I don't even run rail covers anymore on ris 2s or M4 ras', just found it to be unnecessary extra weight with no advantages for me. Naked 1913 rails for the win! I hate rail covers with a passion and used Larue, KAC, and Daniel Defense rails since around Y2K and never once used rail covers on any of 'em, but those last DD rails made me understand the cheese grater mantra. |
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That's because it weights over 10lbs already........................great rail but face it, the things a pig. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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DD RIS ii is the best quad rail, expensive but damn sexy. http://<a href=http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/94SVTsnake/2015-07/B3F43B5D-270E-4211-89F2-845B5470EA1D.jpg</a>" /> all that rail space and nothing mounted? That's because it weights over 10lbs already........................great rail but face it, the things a pig. I think you may have missed the point. Its not just the weight or even the cheeze grater effect or running rail covers to protect the slots and your hands. Its having slots where you will never even remotely mount anything, ever. And those unnecessary rail surfaces and slots are everywhere. |
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I think you may have missed the point. Its not just the weight or even the cheeze grater effect or running rail covers to protect the slots and your hands. Its having slots where you will never even remotely mount anything, ever. And those unnecessary rail surfaces and slots are everywhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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DD RIS ii is the best quad rail, expensive but damn sexy. http://<a href=http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/94SVTsnake/2015-07/B3F43B5D-270E-4211-89F2-845B5470EA1D.jpg</a>" /> all that rail space and nothing mounted? That's because it weights over 10lbs already........................great rail but face it, the things a pig. I think you may have missed the point. Its not just the weight or even the cheeze grater effect or running rail covers to protect the slots and your hands. Its having slots where you will never even remotely mount anything, ever. And those unnecessary rail surfaces and slots are everywhere. No I didn't miss it, I was just being a smartass. I love the RIS but the C4 is the lighter and as effective alternative |
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That's because it weights over 10lbs already........................great rail but face it, the things a pig. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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DD RIS ii is the best quad rail, expensive but damn sexy. http://<a href=http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/94SVTsnake/2015-07/B3F43B5D-270E-4211-89F2-845B5470EA1D.jpg</a>" /> all that rail space and nothing mounted? That's because it weights over 10lbs already........................great rail but face it, the things a pig. Actually it's not that heavy at all. It's also a SBR and the barrel is cut down so that helps a bit. There are a lot of girls in this thread complaining about weight and their soft hands. Never once have I cut my hands and I rarely wear gloves. Why would you not like having the option more mounting points? With pic rails you have more options and flexibility IMHO. |
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Quad rails are old school? Daniel Defense would be my first pick, Midwest of you want to be frugal. Both are quality.
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I think you may have missed the point. Its not just the weight or even the cheeze grater effect or running rail covers to protect the slots and your hands. Its having slots where you will never even remotely mount anything, ever. And those unnecessary rail surfaces and slots are everywhere. View Quote Sort of reminds me of the folks who build their own PC's, and pick the biggest case with the most exposed drive bays. It's all about possibility rather than necessity. |
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Old school is triangular handguards....not picatinny rails for crying out loud...
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