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Posted: 3/14/2006 11:47:23 AM EDT
Muzzle brake
 Someone sent me one of these to see if it directed sound forward. It does not. It was 0.3 dB louder at the ear than a Phantom flash hider. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 5:17:06 AM EDT
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that sucks.
there are a few guys in the pistol forum that believe it is comparable to the noveske 
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Posted: 3/15/2006 7:00:41 AM EDT
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I know. I believe there are designs which can work but whoever developes it needs to test it during the development.
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Posted: 3/15/2006 8:17:21 AM EDT
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Consider the source... |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 8:43:03 AM EDT
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That's interesting. Have you tested the KFH?
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Posted: 3/15/2006 9:02:40 AM EDT
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I listened to it, and it really seemed to direct concussion forward - and also helped my 10.5 work better.
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Posted: 3/18/2006 9:57:51 AM EDT
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What kind of sound meter did you use to measure this ? I've been looking for one for a while, and would like to know what is good / works. thanks
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Posted: 3/20/2006 9:29:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2006 12:04:51 AM EDT
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Who sent me this muzzle brake, I forgot.
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Posted: 3/21/2006 8:02:58 AM EDT
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From www.silencertests.com/2209-method.htm I'm confused.  Lonny |
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Posted: 3/21/2006 8:09:53 AM EDT
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Confused about what? You feel 0.5 dB is significant?
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Posted: 3/21/2006 8:14:26 AM EDT
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Above ya say the MB tested was:
But then at the link it clearly states: "Don't get fixated on 0.1 or 0.5 dB differences as they are not significant.. If one silencer is within 2 dB of another, then they are nearly equal in peak sound and one should look to other characteristics to decide which unit you prefer" ........., looks like ya poo-poo'd on your own topic..... , guessing that's what he's referring to Mike |
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Posted: 3/21/2006 8:26:21 AM EDT
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The point is there is no redirection of sound. It would be nice to see some testing of the Noveske unit.
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Posted: 3/27/2006 5:13:33 PM EDT
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that was me. i'll send you a IM. |
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Posted: 3/27/2006 7:58:42 PM EDT
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I have a feeling it is not going to happen in public. |
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Posted: 3/27/2006 8:14:18 PM EDT
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With respect, I think the point is that this brake is supposed to give the functionality of a muzzle brake (reduced felt recoil, faster back on target etc.) without the usual increase in blast/noise you get from other muzzle brake designs. You seem to have demonstrated that this muzzle brake is no more noisy than a flash hider (good). The more pertinent test might have been to compare the felt recoil and/or split times with both a regular FH and a more traditional muzzle brake. |
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Posted: 3/27/2006 8:48:57 PM EDT
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He said a brake designed to direct the sound forward is not significantly different from a phantom flash hider.
Makes sense to me. |
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Posted: 3/27/2006 8:56:52 PM EDT
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Ha, except it is not a working flash hider OR a working brake. It was advertised at sending sound away from the shooter. It did not even do that. |
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Posted: 3/28/2006 6:53:02 AM EDT
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A true brake like a Y-Comp will direct alot of sound back towrds the Shooter
The Miculek Directs back and toward the sides The AK Brake mostly to the sides I've fired a 14.5 Bushmaster w/AK Brake along with a Mini-14 18in bare bl and the Mini was louder to me People standing alongside the shooter might differ The Levang of KKF's Limiter are not true comps www.kurtskustomfirearms.citymax.com/albums/album_image/42611/31098.htm |
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Posted: 3/28/2006 3:38:32 PM EDT
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i don't have any decible testing equipment but i tried the levang and it seemed noticably quieter to me. i also didn't feel the concusion of the blast like i did with other attachments on an 11.5'' barrel. i'm happy with it, for the $20.00 i paid for it. sure the krink brake performs a little better but it cost alot more in size, weight and $. i think the levang is a much better value i.m.h.o.
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Posted: 3/28/2006 8:40:57 PM EDT
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Compared to what? This is supposed to be a compensator or brake. They're louder than plain muzzles or flash hiders, so comparing them to either of those is apples to oranges. Try your measurements again against a mini-Y comp.  A comp that adds pretty much no noise for the shooter - .3dB - would seem to be an improvement.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 4:31:34 AM EDT
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sound is not measured 12345 Db, every 1Db increase is a 10-fold increase in noise, much like the chemical pH scale, thus .3dB IS SIGNIFICANT (unless im completely off base, which given my lack of sleep I could very well be, someone set me straight if so.)
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