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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:11:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Long story short,
Shrike = Vaporware Short story long, Anything by Charles Dickens. . . . |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:53:51 PM EDT
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Mine ran off with BigFoot but they do exist.....REALLY
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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:56:12 PM EDT
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Supposedly some industry insiders/buddies of Ares got theirs but signed "non-disclosure agreements" which is BS since they would have to have agreed to the sign the non disclosure agreement when they first placed the order for it to be binding.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:25:24 PM EDT
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More than 3 years after I put in my deposit I'm still waiting
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:26:09 PM EDT
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Why dosen't somebody sue Ares?
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:27:49 PM EDT
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because they are hoping on a dream.......that's how most scams work. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:41:52 PM EDT
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Last I knew Ares was claiming that they would refund anyone's money who asked for its return. Also the initial buyers only paid a couple of thousand dollars to Ares. It is difficult to make the legal fees worthwhile for such a small claim, particularly if you do not live in the same state as the company you wish to sue. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 7:51:22 PM EDT
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Non desclosure can be signed anytime, especialy in a case where development secrets were actually disclosed via the hardware, and they can't talk about it when it's finely in their hands.  |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 7:57:03 PM EDT
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I have seen the system and it is a great piece of never ending engineering, and the worst marketing.
I don't blame anyone for going after their money. A class action would be the best way if those who invested wanted to be re-imburst.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:03:02 PM EDT
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If I contract with you for you to provide me a gun widget and I pay you for it up front and you do not initially demand that I sign a non disclosure agreement at the time of the initial sale, you have no ability to require me to later sign a non-disclosure agreement before delivering me the gun widget. If you try to add an additional term of "Oh and you have to sign this non-disclosure agreement before I will give you the widget" before delivery, I refuse to sign, you refuse to deliver, I sue you for breach of contract and you get a cashectomy. If I had paid for a shrike in the beginning, Ares would not be able to later add an additional requirement that I sign a nondisclosure agreement before giving me the shrike that I already paid for. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:06:21 PM EDT
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True edit well more like if they want to get back $ .25 on the dollar but help some nice lawyers make their yacht payments the way class actions usually end up working. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:29:45 PM EDT
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The contract may not say anything about a non desclosure agreement, and at that time one was prob. not contemplated. However, the contract most likely did advise that it was a development item and that was understood since money was put down as a deposite towards a purchase date to be determined on a product to be finished. If you werte offered a product, but refused to sign the non desclosure, then your money should be refunded, but that would depend on the contract wordage. I am betting that there are patent issues beyond the development aspects, and if a non-desclosure was not signed, then it becomes public information, then that would blow the patent out of the water. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:33:13 PM EDT
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The best way would be to just ask Ares for the deposit back. I have yet to hear of anyone not getting their $$ back after asking. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 8:38:55 PM EDT
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They do not seem to keep their word to an awfull lot of people, just promises promises. It is the damndest dumb inept amature way of doing business that I have ever seen.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:09:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:19:14 PM EDT
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You could not be forced to sign one but if you did on your own accord it would be binding. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:50:28 PM EDT
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I have it on good authority that a total of 3 Shrikes have been shipped to end users. They were delivered to Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, and a male-affectionate, easy to get along with, non-political agenda lesbian.
(yes, I watched Chasing Amy recently) |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:57:13 PM EDT
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May I take this moment to remind you all that the penguin is, IIRC, a lawyer... |
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