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Some more info if it helps: I think the lower receiver with the marking "Colt Carbine" SER CC****** is actually a Model R6521 as opposed to R6520 or AR6520. I also think the only difference between the R6520 (non-LEO) and the AR6520 (LEO) is preban vs. postban production. Both have the AR-15A2 Gov't Carbine GC serial prefix. Maybe an expert from the Colt forum will jump in and elaborate or correct me. |
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another NORINCO lower here courtesy of SouthAfricanPolice
i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/craigsa/3345.jpg i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/craigsa/22guns.jpg i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/craigsa/2guns.jpg i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/craigsa/dsc009709io640x480.jpg photobucket.com/albums/a293/craigsa/33.jpg |
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Thanks! Downloaded. That CQ is a fairly rare lower to find, at least in the US. hope SouthAfricanPolice gets his buffer issues resolved! |
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yep, we're trying to sort out if the thread pitch is the same as standard, the LRE is non USGI diameter tho
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I have one of the Spike's Tactical ST-15 Lowers, just purchased today for my AR build. They are pretty excellent, IMHO.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Others/ST15Lower.jpg hug.gif |
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very nice looking lower! Especially the logo! |
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"They look like someone dipped them honey then rolled them in a pile of Leapers crap.
They should be on the cover of a Tapco catalog." DvlDog - AR15.COM |
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didn't Bartoci say that the F was an FN subcontractor mark?
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Moderation is for monks. RAH
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I'm not sure Tweek, the guy I spoke to at LMT said some have different letters but he didn't say why.
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I have a topic going in the AR15 board here about my rifle being a real Colt or not and I have just posted some pics of the markings on mine. You can have the pics if you want. I am using a friends space right now so they won't be there forever but if you want the pics they are yours to have.
I thought you might want the pics because it shows markings on mine that are not listed in the FAQ to this point. I believe my rifle to be a Colt AR15 A2 carbine #6520 with 16" light barrel. My barrel pic shows similar to what you have posted but without the word "HBAR". My upper markings pic shows a keyhole mark like the Cerro one that you show but yours shows a big "C" next to it and mine does not have that. I hope these pics help contribute. If it ends up turning out that what I have is a real Colt then these pics could be of some use to anyone else that has the same gun to verify what it is. |
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Will grab them. Thanks! |
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can you tell me who makes this this upper
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f96/texmex75/DSCF0172.jpg |
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I thought I would post this info in all of the more recent “Retro Discussions” that I could find in the hopes that I may help those who are looking for info, and it may help to cut down on duplicate posts.
GENERAL RETRO PICTURES RETRO PICTURE THREAD #2! TECHNICAL AND HISTORICAL GUIDES ON RETRO MODELS COLT'S USGI M16 SERIES VARIATION GUIDE EDITION III COLT SMG, COMMANDO, AND CARBINE VARIATIONS GUIDE LOWER RECEIVER & MAG FLOORPLATE ROLLMARKS, LOGOS AND MARKINGS XM177 RETRO BUILDS WHO MAKES THE MOST AUTHENTIC XM-177E2 REPLICA PARTS ? WHO ALL IS ACTIVELY BUILDING AN XM177 CLONE? XM177E2 (?) IMAGE FROM SON TAY RAID FOR THE RETRO INTERESTED RETRO OPTICS Armson OEGs for Retro-rifles RETRO RIFLES/CARBINES OPTICS PIC THREAD This is by no means all of the topics that are out there, but I think that these topics are the most extensive and have most of the bases covered. If you do a search for “Retro” or “XM177” you will find that there are a few more out there. Hope this helps, “Capt Richardson” |
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I have an Essential Arms Gun that I believe to be all original. I got it from a dealer who got it from a Police Department as a trade.
It is an A1 and instead of having C M on the upper which would indicate Colt- Martin Marietta, it has the letters P M. I don't know what the P stands for but the upper could very well be a surplus Martin Marietta. I picked that up from bigger hammer. Essential Arms was just a lower when it was made. A supplier probably mated the upper to it and sold it when new. Also I am going to be coming into a Palmetto soon and can tell more about it. Have you seen bigger hammers info on uppers, lowers and bolt carriers? http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/uppers/ It says colt but is more univeral in the suppliers. I can give pics of my essential arms gun upper if you like. |
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That would be great! I have seen bigger hammers site, but didn't want to take his pics, great site though. Thanks! |
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P= Capco M= Martin Marietta |
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Thanks a bunch!!
How did you know P stands for Capco? |
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DR,
Now you can add this to your list of upper markings: PM Capco / Martin Marietta These others should be on your list as well. Stamping Source CAF Colt / Alcoa Forge (See above for photo) CH Colt / Harvey Aluminum (1st Colt Forgings) CM Colt / Martin Marietta (See above for photos) DK Diemaco / Kaiser FK, FS, BK, DK, EK, FK, AF, CW, AA, FS Bushmaster LK FN / Kaiser LM LAR / Martin Marietta (Army Spares Contract) Splintered A Olympic Arms |
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First, thought I'd mention that I have a GM HYDRAMATIC DIVISION M-16A1.
Second, could you add Sabre Defence (yes, spelled Defence) to the list. They make XR15 and XR16 rifles. Thanks. |
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Will do, thanks! |
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You need to change your M4A1 with property marks to a RO921.
An RO977 is a comercial/export variant. |
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I'm looking for a cheap, used 1/7 14.5" Bushmaster M4 barrel.
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You should also add a list of forgings found on removeable carry handles. that would also be something worht looking, specially if you have recently purchased one and want to check if it's a good one or if it is a piece of Chinese pot metal junk.
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Yep, there are other errors too. Will be re-doing the entire colt section now that I have better references (BR, BRII). |
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Will be, they will be going under the "upper receiver" section. |
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Are the "cameleonweaponry" photo links working?
They aren't for me... temporary problem? |
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Impatiently waiting for the revolution to begin. |
They may be down for maintenenance. We'll give it some time and see if they come back up. |
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"Electrical devices are alive but they don't have blood like we do. They have smoke. If you let it out of the device it dies and nothing can bring it back" - Chickenspigscows
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Thank you sir, save for the database! will give credit. What is that, silver paint over the "M4 carbine"? |
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Ohh I forgot that. that is Dry film lube that looks like it was painted on with a brush. that is the only authorized touch up for Air Force M16's |
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I wonder with .mil would bother re-labeling the lower with these markings. Makes not an ounce of difference, does it? (maybe to be sure the proper spring and buffer are used?......I guess) Impressive photo, though. Thanks machinehead |
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Update: Secured the new domain and web hosting, so you should start seeing the images with new ones added beginning late tonite. (that is, the links will be hot again).
And to all who contributed and looked: THANKS! |
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Chameleon link is still not working for me.
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No, Chameleon will no longer be hosting. They will be on my website. I have to finish moving them before the links will be active again. Dave |
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Thanks, _DR $25 /year on photobucket.com gets unlimited storage, and is very reliable. (wonder why ar15.com wouldn't sponsor the hosting? That is one of the most durable and fundamentally valuable threads - and one that personifies an "AR15 reference" website) |
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Yeah, problem with photobucket is they give you unlimited storage but limited bandwidth per month. the first time I put this thread up there were so many hits photobucket was giving me red X's in a week. Granted it has slowed down, and a paid account will likely give you more, but for $94, I get my own domain with lifetime domain name, 12GB of storage, and most importantly, unmetered bandwidth. I do appreciate Chameleons contribution very much, but this will be better as I will have easy access to edit the files. I am also hoping to do rifle "Marking Profiles" which will include a set of photos of everying marking from a given factory produced rifle, such as the LE6920, for example. This will help new AR buyers avoid franken-guns passed off as factory rifles. Anyway, looking forward to getting them all moved to the new server. _DR |
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I hate most all LOGOs on Lowers I own Colt/Bush/LMT Like LMT best Hate pony,snake,deer,panther,lion,ETC!! THE FN is nice and SIMPLE I wish others BRANDS would KISS |
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Hi All, i'm another newbe to AR's. Here is a pic of my new CMT lower.( I didn't see it on any of the list's )
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/DDrag50/AR-15/ARCMTstamp.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/DDrag50/AR-15/ARleft.jpg |
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Getting ready to change into someone more comfortable. Name changes coming.
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Can I go shooting yet Doc/ Please can I huh can I?
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Any ETA with the re-hosting of markings? I miss them as well.
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I would love to know too. I just put two ARs together and would love to find out what I am working with. |
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what is a AF inventory and do you have anymore pics of this gun? thanks much,
James |
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Air Force, slaps self : (
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