IIRC the following lowers are all made my LMT:

LMT
Laur
PWA - Are they all made by LMT or were there some Post "94" lowers made by someone else?
Eagle Arms(Coal Valley)
DSA

What others am I missing?

I am waiting for my lower from LMT now. What will the logo look like. I hope its just "LMT".

I wouldn't mind an LMT lower to go with my new upper.  I don't have a problem with my Bushies, but I'd like to have thw whole thing "match".

Quoted: Bushies with a SN# that start with L

Really?  I did not know that.

Reeeeeeeally?  You know, that would make complete sense.  I remember when these first started to appear and I racked my brain to try and figure that out.  That makes complete sense.  Thanks.



-REAPER2502

CM is a different company.  Continental Machine & Tool.  I have two of there lowers, very nice fit and finish.  i did not care for the LMT lowers i saw at Lauer last week , so i bought a DPMS.  the LMT had some rough machining compared to the others i looked at, the only plus i saw was no sear block on the LMT.    

Bushies with a SN# that start with L

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle.

So, who made the UPPERS on BM's L prefix guns? LMT as well?

Quoted: I wouldn't mind an LMT lower to go with my new upper.  I don't have a problem with my Bushies, but I'd like to have thw whole thing "match".

Same here, if we're buying the Gucci purse we might as well have Gucci wallet to go along with it...

Is anyone able to confirm or deny the "L" Prefix Bushmaster lowers?

Also does anyone know when LMT plans to release anymore "LMT" branded lowers like in Spooge5150's pic?

Quoted: I think LMT is waiting to sell the 100 plus PWA lowers it has first and then will sell their LMT lowers... C4

IIRC, PWA went out of business sometime ago.  If this is true why would LMT make PWA marked lowers?  

Thanks Spooge

Thats what I hope to receive. Simple "LMT"

Grant,

Thanks for the info!  I sent Denny an IM asking him to join this dicussion and tell us everything he knows.

ASA used LMT uppers and lowers until this.



Case Information
Case Number CV2000-020184 Judge Yarnell
Case Type Civil  
File Date 11/8/2000 Location Downtown
Party Information
Party Name Rel Sex  Attorney
LEWIS MACHINE & TOOL CO  Plaintiff None   STEVEN  JONES  
AMERICAN SPIRIT ARMS CORP  Defendant None   Michael  Neumann  
Western Security Bank  Garnishee Defendant    Pro  Per  
Case Documents
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3/5/2003   SJU - SATISFACTION OF JUDGMENT  3/19/2003    
 NOTE: AND RELEASE
2/19/2003   ORD - Order  3/19/2003    
 NOTE: QUASHING WRIT OF GARNISHMENT
2/11/2003   MTQ - Motion to Quash  3/5/2003    
 NOTE: WRIT OF GARNISHMENT
1/29/2003   AFS - Affidavit of Service  2/12/2003    
1/24/2003   ANG - Answer of Garnishee  2/20/2003    
1/22/2003   AFS - Affidavit of Service  2/12/2003    
1/22/2003   WGS - WRIT OF GARNISHMENT/SUMMONS  4/10/2003    
1/16/2003   AWG - Application for Writ of Garnishment  2/20/2003    
10/21/2002   JUD - Judgment  11/5/2002    
 NOTE: Notice of filing and entry provided to the parties
10/2/2002   NOT - Notice  12/5/2002    
 NOTE: OF LODGING PROPOSED FORM OF JUDGMENT
9/27/2002   019 - ME: Ruling  9/27/2002    
9/10/2002   094 - ME: ORAL ARGUMENT SET  9/10/2002    
8/13/2002   OBJ - Objection/Opposition.  11/4/2002    
 NOTE: TO SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION FOR ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS  
8/1/2002   094 - ME: ORAL ARGUMENT SET  8/1/2002    
7/23/2002   APL - Application  8/28/2002    
 NOTE: SUPPLEMENTAL - FOR AWARD OF ATTY FEES AND COSTS
5/17/2002   ODI - ORDER OF DISMISSAL  6/17/2002  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: WITH PREJUDICE
5/13/2002   SFD - STIPULATION FOR DISMISSAL  6/7/2002  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: ON ALL PENDING CLAIMS AND COUNTERCLAIMS AND TO SUBMIT ATTORNEYS FEES FOR; DETERMINATION
12/19/2001   ORD - Order  1/8/2002  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: GRANTING CONTINUANCE OF TRIAL AND FOR BENCH TRIAL UNTIL 05-16-02
12/13/2001   SFC - STIPULATION FOR CONTINUANCE  12/27/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: OF TRIAL AND FOR BENCH TRIAL
9/27/2001 8:00:00 AM   JUD - Judgment  9/27/2001 8:00:00 AM    
 NOTE: Posted during iCIS Conversion
9/17/2001   REL - Reply  9/26/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: TO DEFS OBJECTION TO LEWIS MACHINE & TOOL CO'S APPLICATION FOR ATTORNEYS FEES
9/11/2001   023 - ME: Order Entered by Court  9/11/2001    
9/10/2001   089 - ME: Trial Setting  9/10/2001    
9/7/2001   OBJ - Objection/Opposition.  9/20/2001  Defendant(2)  
 NOTE: TO APPLICATION FOR ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS
9/7/2001   OBJ - Objection/Opposition.  9/20/2001  Defendant(2)  
 NOTE: TO PROPOSED FORM OF JUDGMENT
9/6/2001   089 - ME: Trial Setting  9/6/2001    
8/21/2001   SOC - Statement of Costs  8/28/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
8/21/2001   ASR - AFF/Support Request for Attorney Fees  8/28/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: OF P1'S COUNSEL - AND COSTS
8/21/2001   AAF - Application for Attorney Fees  8/28/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: AND COSTS
8/21/2001   NOT - Notice  8/28/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: ACCEPTANCE OF OFFER OF JUDGMENT
8/21/2001   NOT - Notice  8/28/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: OF LODGING PROPOSED FORM OF JUDGMENT
8/21/2001   ASR - AFF/Support Request for Attorney Fees  10/10/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: AND COSTS
8/6/2001   MSE - Motion to Set & Cert/Readiness  8/14/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
7/26/2001   OCC - Order Cont on Inactive Calendar  8/7/2001  Defendant(2)  
7/25/2001   PRA - Praecipe  8/1/2001  Defendant(2)  
 NOTE: SUBPOENA
7/24/2001   MCO - Motion to Continue  8/1/2001  Defendant(2)  
 NOTE: STIPULATED/ ON THE CALENDAR AND EXTEND DEADLINES
7/5/2001   NSD - Not/Service Re 26.1 Disclosure  7/20/2001  Defendant(2)  
 NOTE: FIRST SUPPLEMENTAL
4/17/2001   311 - ME: 150 DAY MINUTE ENTRY  4/17/2001    
12/26/2000   RES - Response  1/5/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: TO DEFS CONTROVERTING CERTIFICATE OF COMPULSORY ARBITRATION
12/19/2000   REL - Reply  1/3/2001  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: TO COUNTERCLAIM
11/29/2000   ANS - Answer  12/1/2000  Defendant(2)  
 NOTE: AND COUNTERCLAIM
11/21/2000   AFS - Affidavit of Service  11/24/2000  Plaintiff(1)  
 NOTE: P2 SERVED 11-9-2000
11/21/2000   SUM - Summons  11/30/2000  Plaintiff(1)  
11/20/2000   CCA - Cert Compulsory Arbitration  12/14/2000  Defendant(2)  
 NOTE: CONTROVERTING
11/8/2000   COM - Complaint/Petition  11/13/2000  Plaintiff(1)  
11/8/2000   CCN - Cert Arbitration - Not Subject  11/13/2000  Plaintiff(1)  
Case Calendar
Date Time   Event  
5/16/2002 9:30   Trial  
9/23/2002 16:00   Oral Argument  
Judgments
Date (F)or / (A)gainst Amount Frequency Type Status
10/21/2002 F: LEWIS MACHINE & TOOL CO $8,500.00 One Time Attorney Fee Satisfied
 A: AMERICAN SPIRIT ARMS CORP        
9/27/2001 F: LEWIS MACHINE & TOOL CO $799.70 One Time Judgment Only  
 A: AMERICAN SPIRIT ARMS CORP        
9/27/2001 F: LEWIS MACHINE & TOOL CO $11,907.20 One Time Judgment Only  
 A: AMERICAN SPIRIT ARMS CORP        

Interesting, but what was the whole fracas about?

ASA refusing to pay LMT for what they received. Typical ASA BS.

I can't say this enough.

Avoid ASA like the plague!

I'd still like the answer to the question: who's uppers ride on the Lxxxxx serialized
BM lowers

Hmmm just looked at my 3 bushy lowers...all start with L and one ends with L as well. Any proof to these being made by LMT?

I'd still like the answer to the question: who's uppers ride on the Lxxxxx serialized BM lowers

I have several also....

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think LMT is waiting to sell the 100 plus PWA lowers it has first and then will sell their LMT lowers... C4 IIRC, PWA went out of business sometime ago.  If this is true why would LMT make PWA marked lowers?   I am pretty sure I heard it was PWA marked lowers, but might be wrong. I think they had them sitting around and want to burn through those first. Contact Denny @ GTS for the straight story. He and I talk about a lot of gear (almost dailey) so I might be mixed up. C4

You probably heard correctly. I picked up one of these a few months ago and from what I understand, all the old pre-ban PWA lowers where made by LMT as well.

I hope the part about waiting to sell off the PWA marked lowers before selling the LMT (without the LEO) marked lowers is incorrect. I would think,  with that known, most people will probably not buy the PWA marked units preferring to wait on the LMT marked lowers.

The lower Spooge shows above is stamped with the LEO only markings and are reportedly available now if wanted.

Correct.

Who can we purchase the Govt/LEO marked lowers from?

How do I buy PWA lowers from LMT???

Quoted: How do I buy PWA lowers from LMT???

RB Precision may have some of those in stock.  That's where I picked mine up.

Quoted: Who can we purchase the Govt/LEO marked lowers from?

Anybody have a "source"? Feel free to contact via IM or EM.
Thanks.....Chad

Quoted: Quoted: How do I buy PWA lowers from LMT??? RB Precision may have some of those in stock.  That's where I picked mine up.

That's where I got the one I have.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who can we purchase the Govt/LEO marked lowers from? Anybody have a "source"? Feel free to contact via IM or EM. Thanks.....Chad Contact Denny at www.globaltactical.com C4

Or apparently this guy has a source... Questions about LMT lower  

Try RB Precision got mine from there as well....

Hrm, that's interesting. Thanks man!

Quoted: Quoted: How do I buy PWA lowers from LMT??? I have these in stock ready to ship Krista 309-534-8175

I got two from RB Precision and they are NICE.  Great finish, well made.  My only, little, tiny disappointment was that it has a high shelf, which means I have to modify a Accuwedge to fit under the rear take down pin.  Big deal!

RB's one of the best internet suppliers I have worked with so far.  There hasn't been anything that I have wanted that they could not get for me, at a good price also.  Thanks.

Quoted: Bushies with a SN# that start with L

This would explain why my last two Bushy lowers were not up to snuff.

Just curious, are you saying that your LMT-made Bushmaster lower is no good?

Quoted: Just curious, are you saying that your LMT-made Bushmaster lower is no good?

They weren't what I expected.  The first one had dents all around the mag well lip and little white spots of some sort in the anodizing that look like shit.  The second one was so badly forged that it looked as if it was made by hand.  The corners were pitted and rough and the forging was also very badly pitted.  

Like I've said in other posts, it is my belief that when you buy individual components from BM you are getting second rate products.  By that I mean they didn't make the grade to be used on BM's complete rifles so they put them with the spares and sell them seperately.

My two complete rifles that I bought from Bushmaster several years ago are flawless except for the normal wear I've put on them over the years from use.

I won't buy Bushmaster products anymore until they get their QC issues resolved.

Although I'm not a huge LMT fan after my debacle with their "enhanced" bolt, the two Lauer Custom Weaponry lowers I've seen were flawless.  Denny is also selling DSA lowers which are manufactured by LMT.

Lauer

DSA

Buckshot's Bushmaster marked\LMT made lower sounds a lot like my PWA marked\LMT made lower.

LMT appears to have some really inconsistent QC IMO. I for one am sorry to hear that new BM lowers are now made by LMT.

Quoted: Quoted: Buckshot's Bushmaster marked\LMT made lower sounds a lot like my PWA marked\LMT made lower. LMT appears to have some really inconsistent QC IMO. I for one am sorry to hear that new BM lowers are now made by LMT. IIRC, current production is CMT

I bought two stripped lowers over the summer and they both start with an L.  Maybe Bushmaster is trying to get rid of their LMT lowers first.