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dgo7,
By looking at the gear you will be mounting and seeing that you don't want to mess with the delta ring or the handguard cap and I would go with the SIR 50c.
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Agreed, 100%. Yojimbo's #50C:
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/083199-big.JPG[/img]
IMHO, there's no reason to go with the #45 now that the slimline #46 is available. The only reason I would go with the #46 would be if you will be mounting a AN/PEQ style aiming device mand need a built in 12 o'clock mount such as the #46 has...
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Again I'd agree, but would add, that the #45, gets a slight nod over the #46 in a slight increase in the ability to dissipate heat better, but that would only be a significant advantage in a FA settup. Having said that, I'd go w/ a #46, even on a FA settup as multiple mag dumps aren't a concern, and if it ever was, just getting through it alive would be the main concern.
The lowest aluminum rail on the extra aluminum spacer at the front of the #58 and #58 MOD is lower than the ht. of the 1913 add on rail on the synthetic, so w/o the add on rail, you would only have a 2" portion of 1913 rail, on that aluminum spacer forward of the synthetic handguard. The add on can go on the AL spacer and the synthetic and will mount at the same height 1 level, or on just the synthetic bi-level. But, w/o it, at all, you have only a 2" section of rail on the Al. spacer. That's one reason I like the #58 and #58MOD, you can use the 2" lowere rail for lights and still have a std. CAR length forearm to use, or use a short add on rail for a Fwd. PG.
The original SIRs were std. CAR gas system length (see the #50C above). Due to requests for a mid-length gas system SIR ARMS developed the #58 (pic'd below). And used a 2" aluminum extension in front of the std. CAR forearm to bridge the gap created by the longer distance between the front of the receiver and the ffront sight assy./gas block. Later at a gov't trial they had a #58 cut to fit around the front sight assembly of the AR/M16, to create a MRE type settup. It occured to them what a unique settup they had, but needed to re-work the #58 as they needed the front rail pivot pin assy, moved rearward instead of cut-off and needed to enlarge the opening on the experimental one to facilitate the use of the PRI FUFS. So the #58MOD was born.
Green18's mid length/#58M from a different angle:
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=19738[/img]
The 2" aluminum extension is visible below just in front of the synthetic (drker) handguard.
And a #58MOD on a Std. CAR length gas sysytem upper.
You can see the bi-level nature of the lower rail on the #58MOD
And the front rail in the lower pic. is the same one used to level the #50C/M bi-level or forward rail. It works on #s 58MOD and #50.
[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=72430&c=500&z=1"][img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/072430.jpg[/img][/url]
On the MOD model, the front rail pivot pin was re-machined farther back, just behind the front sight assembly/gasblock, and the opening was enlarged for the PRI FUFS.
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=19905[/img]
Treetop's pic, thanks Tree...
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