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[IMG]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MRP-9.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MRP-11.JPG[/IMG] WE KNOW! I AM PERSONALLY SOLD ON IT. BUT WE APPRECIATE THE EXCELLENT PICS. |
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As for the BCG design they are great and were on the board via Wes a long long time ago.
As for the MRP? Yes..........and again, we were informed quite some time ago. Thanks though..... I'm grinnin' too Raptor[:D] |
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Quoted: I'm grinnin' too Raptor[:D] View Quote [>(] You guys suck [:d] |
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Mr. Hollister, please tell us a little about the flip up sights (front & rear) on that carbine.
Pics maybe? Thanks. |
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I was in a bit of a rush when it came time to get pictures . . . shouldn't have brought a noninterested female that was hungry. [:(!]
As to the sights, they were more then adiquate. I wish I'd have gotten a shot of them in the active position. I do recall that the front looked "PRI" inspired. Also, I recieved an email asking for an underside shot . . . that I have: [img]http://www.pbase.com/image/23439767.jpg[/img] |
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The front sight looks like it's made by Troy Industry, [url]www.troyind.com/news.htm[/url]
[img]www.troyind.com/images/Web%20front_sight4.jpg[/img] [img]www.troyind.com/images/front_sight2.jpg[/img] As I said in another thread, it looks to be a combo of the KAC front RAS mountes sight and the PRI flip up sight/gas block, with its hood. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm grinnin' too Raptor[:D] View Quote [>(] You guys suck [:d] View Quote I'm very impulsive, but I have been waiting for this thing to come about for a long time.....and talk to Wes way to much for my own good.......but hey, I love the guy.....like a brother, or father......not in the ancient greek sort of way[:D] The front and rear sights on the MRP photos at top have to be the TROY sights. Either that or LMT designed duplicates. |
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F/R sights are Troy-designed units. I'd wager they can hang w/ the best of them, & better than most.
Rear sight pic added: [img]http://troyind.com/images/rear_sight6.jpg[/img] Looks like it has a single aperture. ******** Are these LMT uppers commercially available, or are they stuck in a prototype/limited production stage? Also, how reliable is the new bbl/bolt/gas tube design over the current/std offering? Is it an improvement? Need...more...info. |
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THE LEWIS MACHINE & TOOL MRP IS INDEED AVAILABLE FROM YOUR FRIENDLY LMT DEALER: M.S.T.N.
16.1" & 18" STAINLESS W/ LONG RIFLE LENGTH RECEIVER/FOREND $1489. AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW! 10.5", 14.5" AND 16.1" CHROME LINED W/ SHORT CQB LENGTH RECEIVER/FOREND $1289. AVAILABLE VERY SHORTLY. NOTE: THESE UPPER ASSEMBLIES COME WITH AN A2 TYPE FLASH SUPPRESSOR AND ARE FOR PRE-BAN USE. NO BOLT CARRIER GROUP OR CHARGING HANDLE IS PROVIDED. OF COURSE, THEY CAN BE HAD "ALA CARTE", SO TO SPEAK. FOR THOSE OF YOU INTERESTED, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT: [email protected] WES GRANT [URL]MSTN.BIZ[/URL] |
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Question:
Now these chambers are 5.56mm not .223 correct? "10.5", 14.5" AND 16.1" CHROME LINED W/ SHORT CQB LENGTH RECEIVER/FOREND $1289. AVAILABLE VERY SHORTLY." And does that price include all three barrels? or just one of the above. |
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Quoted: "10.5", 14.5" AND 16.1" CHROME LINED W/ SHORT CQB LENGTH RECEIVER/FOREND $1289. AVAILABLE VERY SHORTLY." And does that price include all three barrels? or just one of the above. View Quote You and I both wish, brother. [;)] |
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Two questions:
1. Is the CQB length receiver mid-length or standard CAR length? 2. Does the MRP have the ability to accept different calibers? a la the 6.8? |
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1. THE CQB LENGTH IS LONGER THAN STANDARD "CAR" LENGTH, BUT SHORTER THAN A TRUE MID-LENGTH.
2. THE REASON THE MRP WAS BUILT IS TO PROVIDE MODULAR ABILITY. THIS INCLUDES NOT ONLY BARREL LENGTH CHANGES BUT ALSO THE FUTURE POTENTIAL FOR CALIBER CHANGES. THE 6.8 REMINGTON SPC WILL BE A LOGICAL CALIBER FOR THIS APPLICATION. WES GRANT [URL]MSTN.BIZ[/URL] |
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YES, AND THE MRP IS CUT FOR THE KAC PANEL LOCKING TABS. THEY'RE A BIT MORE SNUG THAN ON A KAC FOREND, I MIGHT ADD.
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IS THE ERGO LADDER PANELS, SHOWN HERE ON A KAC FOREND. [IMG]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/EarthSPR.JPG[/IMG] WES GRANT [URL]MSTN.BIZ[/URL] |
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Guess I pretty much figured out where the tax check is going next spring [:D]
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.....and look at it as helping the economy to Lumpy! Any excuse will do[:)]
It does for me! |
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Quoted: And does that price include all three barrels? or just one of the above. View Quote Just one of the above! |
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Damn im still recovering from my SPR now this?? And of course Raptor22 is getting one send me some pics when you get it. Well taxes will be coming soon oh well who needs to invest hehe!!
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Ok, so only one barrel.
But is it 5.56mm or .223 chambered? Or? 6.8mm? |
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Guys, I was just handling the MRP yesterday. I have to say this. most of the time you handle new gun stuff it is either a copy or variation of a theme. every once in a while though, you get something show up that is truely innovative and step back and say "why wasn't this here 15-20 years ago". the MRP is in this class. LMT definitely didnt drop the ball on this one, they have a touch down. now the bad part. I can't afford one....wahhhhh!!
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The original post mentioned a chromelined barrel option for a couple of hundred less than the stainless barrel.
I'd like to see the specs on the chromelined barrel. Are they 4150 steel? Are the chambers 5.56? Are the they 1/7, 1/8 or 1/9? The MRP really looks like a great leap in AR technology! It's not just fluff but a really functional and efficient design! I really love how they've simplified the barrel change without compromising the design and function of the AR! Is the MRP the URX killer? It almost looks like LMT might have beaten KAC to the punch! Ooooh my wallet is hurting....[BD] |
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IF an MRP was made in .308, and designed to fit the AR 10 lower.... who would want one?
Stainless |
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Quoted: The original post mentioned a chromelined barrel option for a couple of hundred less than the stainless barrel. I'd like to see the specs on the chromelined barrel. Are they 4150 steel? [b][red]Yes[/red][/b] Are the chambers 5.56? [b][red]Yes[/red][/b] Are the they 1/7, 1/8 or 1/9? [b][red]1/7[/red][/b] The MRP really looks like a great leap in AR technology! It's not just fluff but a really functional and efficient design! I really love how they've simplified the barrel change without compromising the design and function of the AR! Is the MRP the URX killer? It almost looks like LMT might have beaten KAC to the punch! Ooooh my wallet is hurting....[BD] View Quote |
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Very nice. More than I'm willing to pay for a barreled upper right now, but nice.
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[green]Good thing[/green]: Great idea, LMT rocks. [image]http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/icon_folder_new.gif[/image]
[red]Bad thing[/red]: Price. Don't get me wrong - I'm sure it is well made, and worth it (so to speak), but all this good stuff is damn pricey![image]http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/rcain.gif[/image] [green]Good thing[/green]: Scooping up RAS IIs and SIRs when all the obsession boys buy LMT uppers![image]http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/asbeat.gif[/image] [red]Bad thing[/red]: Trying to decide between a new LMT upper and all the used RAS IIs and SIRs on the EE.[image]http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/angry/curse.gif[/image] . |
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Wes,
Thanks for the answers. Now I have one more question. How much are the barrels by themselves? I think the long upper with the 16" and 18" barrels would be the perfect compromise I am looking for. On a different note, do they have plans to come out with a 20" inch barrel? |
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Wes,
Can you tell use the weight of a 16" barreled upper (chrome lined preferably). Let me know if the weight includes charging handle, bolt, or bolt carrier. Thanks! |
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How about the weight factor on these? Looks like its all aluminum.
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I HAVE NOTHING ON HAND TO WEIGH AT THE MOMENT. THE 18" LMT MRP IS BOXED UP, WAITING TO GO TO ITS NEW HOME.
I DID WEIGH IT AND COMPARE ITS WEIGH TO THAT OF ONE OF OUR 18" SPR MK 12 MOD 1 CLONE UPPERS. THE SPR WAS THREE OUNCES HEAVIER, AT 4 LB, 8 OZ, BUT THE SPR HAD THE OPS INC 2-PORT BRAKE AND COLLAR. THE FINAL WEIGHT WILL DEPEND ON THE WEIGHTS OF THE LOWER RECEIVER W/ BUTTSTOCK, OPTICS, AND ACCESSORIES MOUNTED. SO I WOULD CONSIDER THE SPR AND THE MRP IN 18" TO ESSENTIALLY WEIGH THE SAME. LET ME ADD THAT AN SPR WITH ONLY AN AIMPOINT ON IT FEELS VERY WELL BALANCED AND LIGHT IN THE HANDS. PUTTING A BIG SCOPE LIKE THE NIGHTFORCE NXS ON ANYTHING MAKES IT HEAVY. I'M SORRY, BUT I HAVE NOT YET BEEN GIVEN A PRICE ON THE BARRELS SEPARATELY. WES |
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Quoted: Is the MRP the URX killer? It almost looks like LMT might have beaten KAC to the punch! View Quote While I think the MRP is great, I wouldn't call it a URX killer. I still want a URX, as I believe many others do. It's like comparing apples to oranges, they are two different things, designed for different systems. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Is the MRP the URX killer? It almost looks like LMT might have beaten KAC to the punch! View Quote While I think the MRP is great, I wouldn't call it a URX killer. I still want a URX, as I believe many others do. It's like comparing apples to oranges, they are two different things, designed for different systems. View Quote I wouldn't say it's like comparing apples to oranges and they are basically designed to do the same thing and give complete uninterrupted rail platform. The URX just makes the installation a big PIA while the LMT offers a complete solution that's very easy to reconfigure as needed. Though the LMT may be costlier it's user friendly setup may be well worth it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the MRP the URX killer? It almost looks like LMT might have beaten KAC to the punch! View Quote While I think the MRP is great, I wouldn't call it a URX killer. I still want a URX, as I believe many others do. It's like comparing apples to oranges, they are two different things, designed for different systems. View Quote I wouldn't say it's like comparing apples to oranges and they are basically designed to do the same thing and give complete uninterrupted rail platform. The URX just makes the installation a big PIA while the LMT offers a complete solution that's very easy to reconfigure as needed. Though the LMT may be costlier it's user friendly setup may be well worth it. View Quote You are right they are both designed to do the same thing. That doesn't exactly mean they compete with each other though. They are two different things, designed for different systems. The LMT MRP is it's own rifle, it's own system. 100% Compatibility is foregone and in place you get some extra rigidness, a cool barrel change feature, a gas tube that's kept 100% inline, etc. The URX allows people to have rigid, uninterupted rails on their existing rifles, without having to spend $1200-1400 on a completely new upper. Since it's also a separate piece, if you trash/destroy anything.. your upper, your rail system, whatever you still only need to replace that 1 part, not an entire monolithic system. And it's not just a money issue, some people have spent lots of time and years tweaking their rifles for reliability or whatever else. They've grown comfortable with the upper they have and don't want to ditch that. So yes, they are designed to generally do the same thing, but they are targeting different markets entirely. One is saying, let's improve on what we have. The other is saying, redesign the whole thing in order to deliver a better product than what can be accomplished otherwise. Naturally, different people will fall on different sides of the fence on what is best for them. |
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Both the MRP and the URX are targeting the Military....period. Civilians Get the MRP on special order and the URX? We don't even know when or if they will be available unfortunately.
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Ya know this might just blow that XM8 project right of the water.
Oh poo! That would be a shame! [;D] |
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Yea and the new Hk plant in GA can start making MP-5's/G36's
FREE Quoted: Ya know this might just blow that XM8 project right of the water. Oh poo! That would be a shame! [;D] View Quote |
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Wes,
Is LMT coming out with a fixed front sight for the MRP CQB upper to go along with their fixed rear? I will be emailing you regarding my SRP order :) James |
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I THINK IT IS AN EVENTUAL CERTAINTY. IT HAS TO HAPPEN. IT IS JUST THE "WHEN" PART I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HOOK YOU UP! WES |
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One little side note about the quick change barrel feature, it makes it relatively practical to remove the barrel for cleaning. Having just removed a barrel from an upper, I just so happened to find that it's much easier to clean the barrel extension when its not attached to an upper receiver. Ok, so duh, that's pretty obvious but I thought I would add it to the discussion anyway.
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Quoted: One little side note about the quick change barrel feature, it makes it relatively practical to remove the barrel for cleaning. Having just removed a barrel from an upper, I just so happened to find that it's much easier to clean the barrel extension when its not attached to an upper receiver. Ok, so duh, that's pretty obvious but I thought I would add it to the discussion anyway. View Quote Yeah, i would use that to clean the barrel extension, but i would NEVER take the barrel out to use a cleaning rod. Why? No support, so you'll just wear the lands irregularly, and POOF! there goes your accuracy. Course, you probably wouldn't mess up a chrome lined barrel, but why would you put a cleaning rod through that anyway? Just use a bore snake, and you can really clean it when you get home, or whatever. The less you remove the barrel the better. |
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Cleaning the barrel after zeroing the rifle by removing it? Counterproductive.
Anyone get theirs in yet? Anyone have any feedback yet? /S2 |
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Quoted: Cleaning the barrel after zeroing the rifle by removing it? Counterproductive. /S2 View Quote Yeah, that also |
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THE MRP EXHIBITS EXCELLENT RETURN-TO-ZERO QUALITIES WHEN THE BARREL IS REMOVED AND REPLACED.
HERE'S A THREAD WITH LOTS OF MRP INFO & PIX: [URL]http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=173105&w=searchPop[/URL] WES GRANT [URL]MSTN.BIZ[/URL] |
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OK. I'm practically sold on the MRP. One question - being entirely metallic, does the lower portion of the guard transmit enough heat to become uncomfortable from mag dumping, or over long/extended shoots?
I wonder if LMT has considered a lower polymer HG section, a la ARMS SIR? |
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