Convincing a 'smith (So can you...cont'd)

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Posted: 6/13/2003 9:56:20 PM EDT

How the hell do I convince my local gunsmith that he's not breaking the '94 law by putting an FS on my upper. Someone told him it was illegal and he won't do it. I think if I take the upper to him again the BATFEtc. will pay me a visit. There are a couple other local 'smiths but he's the best around here.

TS

Done in honor of freedom as my 1776th post.

Posted: 6/13/2003 10:30:55 PM EDT

[#1]

Hmmmm..........maybe go to some website that has the laws in pdf form, d/load 'em and take a copy to him?

All I can think of, off the top of my head.

Posted: 6/13/2003 11:20:05 PM EDT

[#2]

Give him the # of the local/nearest BATF field office & he can get the skinny direct from them.

Posted: 6/14/2003 9:52:04 AM EDT

[#3]

Find a better gunsmith, one that actually knows the business, instead of one that just runs a "gun machine shop".

Posted: 6/14/2003 10:10:04 AM EDT

[#4]

Go elsewhere

Posted: 6/14/2003 11:16:56 AM EDT

[#5]

Get Kurt Wala of KKF in the industry section to do it. He does them all the time for a reasonable fee and you would be supporting a member of AR15.com by using him. He is busy though and you may have to wait a month to get the rifle back.

Posted: 6/14/2003 12:35:33 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Get Kurt Wala of KKF in the industry section to do it. He does them all the time for a reasonable fee and you would be supporting a member of AR15.com by using him. He is busy though and you may have to wait a month to get the rifle back.

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That's my my main concern, time I don't have it. I've heard nothing but good about Kurt.

TS

Posted: 6/14/2003 2:00:32 PM EDT

[#7]

What is the FS that you are referring to:

Fake Silencer/ Suppressor

or Flash Hider (Fake)?

I attach them permanently. I currently make Fake Silencers and offer to permanently attach them for customers who have postban or need to bring them up to legal length.

[email protected]

Posted: 6/14/2003 2:20:04 PM EDT

[#8]

Real Phantom w/ threads.

TS

Posted: 6/14/2003 2:49:36 PM EDT

[#9]

Just thinking like a plumber... but how about you take the upper to him on a pre-ban lower. Then he knows the upper is going on a pre-ban and he can book it in/out so if *someone* ever comes back to ask him, he can show that the work was done to a pre-ban?

Posted: 6/14/2003 3:37:17 PM EDT

[#10]

I've taken it to him as an upper only. Maybe I'll take it to him on my SP1 lower, maybe I'll send it to Kurt.

TS

Posted: 6/14/2003 7:23:16 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
I maybe I'll send it to Kurt.

TS

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While Kurt's work and reputation are well known here, he's also a busy guy. I have had two Phantoms get the pin/weld/repark from Mike at ORF([url=ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=25&t=139752]me223[/url] on the EE!) generally a 7 day return.

Posted: 6/14/2003 8:22:13 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I maybe I'll send it to Kurt.

TS

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While Kurt's work and reputation are well known here, he's also a busy guy. I have had two Phantoms get the pin/weld/repark from Mike at ORF([url=ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=25&t=139752]me223[/url] on the EE!) generally a 7 day return.

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Please excuse my ignorance, but the pin.weld would be due to cutting back to 14.5" for the Phantom making it 16", right?

TIA,

TS

Posted: 6/14/2003 8:51:40 PM EDT

[#13]

Yes,in my case it was. Pin & weld is one of the BATF accepted "permanent" attaching procedures.

Posted: 6/14/2003 10:05:57 PM EDT

[#14]

So, if I kept the barrel length at 16" I could keep the threads on it. In case I wanted to swap out the Phantom for a Vortex, etc. I appreciate all your help and assistance in all this.

TS

Posted: 6/14/2003 10:56:32 PM EDT

[#15]

as long as it is going on a preban lower. yeah, keep your threads. if the barrel gets under 16", that is when it gets weird.

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