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Posted: 5/6/2003 10:00:33 PM EDT
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The RAS indexes with the barrel nut, so it's possible your barrel nut is slightly overtorqued. The gas tube would prevent the barrel nut from being too far off, but it could easily be a couple degrees away from center.
I'm not going to get into what I think about mounting optics to the handguards, that's your decision. |
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Posted: 5/6/2003 10:06:22 PM EDT
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ABOVE ASSESSMENT IS CORRECT. THE KNIGHT'S RIS/RAS FAMILY OF FORENDS TAKE THEIR ALIGNMENT FROM THE BARREL NUT, NOTHING ELSE.
WES GRANT [URL]MSTN.BIZ[/URL] |
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Posted: 5/6/2003 10:36:36 PM EDT
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This is not suprising or unheard of. This is one of a few reasons why most folks DO NOT advise mounting optics to rail handgaurds that do not secure to the upper reciever.
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Posted: 5/6/2003 11:50:52 PM EDT
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It takes a good eye (and/or a level), a lot of time and patience but it can be done.
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Posted: 5/7/2003 12:18:01 AM EDT
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I think the KAC RAS is great but I still don't see why people think it is sturdy enough to mount optics and a foregrip on.
Torque on the foregrip and you can exert a vertical or rotational force on the RAS- transferring to the top and your optics. The E-O will give you a better FOV when mounted close to the eye as in on the upper. +it will for sure be firm and accurate in its mounting. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 4:01:48 AM EDT
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I have three KAC FF RASs , just one of them is not aligning with the upper , simply placed the optic on the upper.
Never trusted optics mounted on RIS/ RAS / SIR anyway, PP out |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 12:28:22 PM EDT
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PP, Why not on the SIR, it is stable as hell, and aligned with the upper?
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Posted: 5/7/2003 12:58:16 PM EDT
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Everyone, Thanks for all the responses. I was also wondering about the pros and cons to mounting on the handguard rail. I was told it would improve consistency of shot placement due to the increased distance from the eye...any info on the pros and cons?
As I have no preference on mounting position, I will put it on the flat-top. Thanks again for the input. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 3:47:22 PM EDT
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I don't think it is too much about accuracy...but what you definetely get is more peripheral vision around it.
And yes I bought SIR for cooling barrel faster and mounting Red-dot forward. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 11:10:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: PP, Why not on the SIR, it is stable as hell, and aligned with the upper? CAR-15, unfortunately I'm not in love with the SIR, in my opinion it is bulky and I hate to have plastic so close to hot barrels , so I did not get any SIR for my hardware. PP out |
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Posted: 5/9/2003 10:27:30 AM EDT
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KMM- If you are interested in placing optics in the handguard region, I would recommend talking with Wes (MSTN) about this. I got a ARMS #38 EX-MOD-L rail from him which it ties (SECURELY) the RAS to the flat top upper. You would probably rather fancy the ARMS #38 EX-MOD as it provides a index-able rail all the way to the sight post. The EX-MOD-'L' has an integrated mount which allows the user to attach the PEQ-2, which not alot of folks have in the gun safe. (NOT that I have a 'personal' ONE either!)
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Posted: 5/10/2003 12:24:08 AM EDT
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William,
Thanks for the input. I did consider searching for a rail to tie the RAS to the flat-top, but felt that should not be necessary considering I just dropped $300 on the RAS which already has a rail. It seems like the EOTECH on the flat-top cowitnesses with my MAD sites perfectly. Do you think the extra rail would mess up the site alignment? And do you think the slight cant of the RAS would cause any kind of torquing problem with the upper? I have no experience...any input you have would be helpful. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/10/2003 12:41:46 AM EDT
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Any additional rail raising the EO Tech will cause it to sit too high to cowitness properly.
You're best off keeping it mounted directly to the flattop, unless you want to spend the $375 or so for an ARMS #50, plus another $100 for a #40 to replace your MAD. You can see here the top one has an ARMS SIR #50/#40/EO Tech. The #50 has a step down which allows the EO Tech to sit at the same plane as the back up sights. Directly below that, the middle rifle has a Knight's RIS and an ARMS #38S-EX-MOD-L. It ties the flattop and the RIS [b]solidly[/b] together, but the EO Tech would be too high to allow the sights to be viewed through it. An Aimpoint in an ARMS #22M68 with no spacer will align properly, but there again we're adding something you're not using to solve an issue that's not even being created if you just stick with what you've got and use your EO Tech on the flattop. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11578[/img] |
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