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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:16:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Into_the_Void]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: These should make for some nice recce's. Just trying to decide if I want to build them all. https://i.imgur.com/mjnPgF5.jpg Is that like strike industries or something Page ownage  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:26:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:33:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:38:28 PM EDT
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Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16” with a warcomp..? WTH
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:45:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16” with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg @bigbore |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:45:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16" with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg In other words, once you screw the warcomp all the way onto your 13.9" barrel, the OAL of the barrel is 15.7" or shorter if the threaded area is like 0.65" or something. Unless your muzzle device is something different and a bit longer? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:17:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: no idea about the weld, but if a warcomp is the 2.4" listed on their website, when you subtract the length of the threads (~0.6"), then in order to get a 13.9" barrel to EXACTLY 16.0", you're looking at 0.3" of shims required. In other words, once you screw the warcomp all the way onto your 13.9" barrel, the OAL of the barrel is 15.7" or shorter if the threaded area is like 0.65" or something. Unless your muzzle device is something different and a bit longer? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16" with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg In other words, once you screw the warcomp all the way onto your 13.9" barrel, the OAL of the barrel is 15.7" or shorter if the threaded area is like 0.65" or something. Unless your muzzle device is something different and a bit longer? They said it was in fact welded but they didn’t have enough room to grind it down. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16” with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg That looks retarded. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: They said it was in fact welded but they didn’t have enough room to grind it down. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Originally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16" with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg In other words, once you screw the warcomp all the way onto your 13.9" barrel, the OAL of the barrel is 15.7" or shorter if the threaded area is like 0.65" or something. Unless your muzzle device is something different and a bit longer? They said it was in fact welded but they didn’t have enough room to grind it down. That pin ain't welded. It also looks like there's a solder ball on the shims |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:31:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: That pin ain't welded. It also looks like there's a solder ball on the shims Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By Maack: Originally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16" with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg In other words, once you screw the warcomp all the way onto your 13.9" barrel, the OAL of the barrel is 15.7" or shorter if the threaded area is like 0.65" or something. Unless your muzzle device is something different and a bit longer? They said it was in fact welded but they didn’t have enough room to grind it down. That pin ain't welded. It also looks like there's a solder ball on the shims  |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:32:16 PM EDT
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They should have also used the beveled/base spacer then the shims to get that to 16 inches. 14.0” barrel would have been better to get the warcomp to 16”, but I have seen it done with 13.9”. And it won’t look like a clusterfuk.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:55:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16” with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg That's a URX 4. The handguard has to be installed before the muzzle device, and that leaves not enough room to pin and weld. If you take a pic directly from the top, you'll see how little room there is. The welding gun has to be above the rail(which is too far), and still somehow reach the hole in the flash hider to weld it. The extra shims are needed to get enough room to even drill the hole. There is a pin, it was welded over. The weld was ground flat, and cold blued. That little ball you see under 8X zoom can be knocked off with a pair of tweezers. Again, the gun is too high for the gas to get to the flashhider to prevent that little ball from happening. Remind me which length barrel that was, what length handgaurd and I'll note on my site we will NOT perm that combo any more. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:06:44 PM EDT
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Steve, with all respect, I've been welding and/or around welding my entire life - that ain't welded.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:12:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:20:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: That's a URX 4. The handguard has to be installed before the muzzle device, and that leaves not enough room to pin and weld. If you take a pic directly from the top, you'll see how little room there is. The welding gun has to be above the rail(which is too far), and still somehow reach the hole in the flash hider to weld it. The extra shims are needed to get enough room to even drill the hole. There is a pin, it was welded over. The weld was ground flat, and cold blued. That little ball you see under 8X zoom can be knocked off with a pair of tweezers. Again, the gun is too high for the gas to get to the flashhider to prevent that little ball from happening. Remind me which length barrel that was, what length handgaurd and I'll note on my site we will NOT perm that combo any more. That was a 13” URX 4 and a 13.9” barrel. Sorry for all the trouble. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:24:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:35:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Steve, with all respect, I've been welding and/or around welding my entire life - that ain't welded. It's welded. I remember it well, as I said "How the fuck am I supposed weld that?" when I first picked it up to work on. I was actually really happy I made that 7/64" bead as nice as I did, without damaging the rail or the warcomp. Ask him to chip off that little ball. He can confirm easily its weld spatter and not solder. If you look close at his high res pics you can see more spatter because the weld was out of the reach of the shield gas. That looks like the example on my website: 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:35:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell clearly keymod is the problem here |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: That was a 13” URX 4 and a 13.9” barrel. Sorry for all the trouble. I think yours is only the 2nd one I've done, and I thought the first was fluke or I would have said I don't offer that service. There can't be too many uppers with that combo. I'm sorry your not happy, I'll be happy to offer a refund if you wish. At 1:1 Scale, it's easier to see I dont have any tools small enough to get in there without risking damage to your rail or the warcomp. 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:05:40 PM EDT
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Maack, did you tell ADCO you were not happy with the work before you posted here?
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: I think yours is only the 2nd one I've done, and I thought the first was fluke or I would have said I don't offer that service. There can't be too many uppers with that combo. I'm sorry your not happy, I'll be happy to offer a refund if you wish. At 1:1 Scale, it's easier to see I dont have any tools small enough to get in there without risking damage to your rail or the warcomp. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/scale-1787101.jpg |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: I think yours is only the 2nd one I've done, and I thought the first was fluke or I would have said I don't offer that service. There can't be too many uppers with that combo. I'm sorry your not happy, I'll be happy to offer a refund if you wish. At 1:1 Scale, it's easier to see I dont have any tools small enough to get in there without risking damage to your rail or the warcomp. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/scale-1787101.jpg Since we confirmed it’s welded, I’m fine with it. I had mocked it up with the Surefire large shim and thought I would have been closer to 16” with a couple more, but if it takes 0.3” then that’s fine. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:23:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: I think yours is only the 2nd one I've done, and I thought the first was fluke or I would have said I don't offer that service. There can't be too many uppers with that combo. I'm sorry your not happy, I'll be happy to offer a refund if you wish. At 1:1 Scale, it's easier to see I dont have any tools small enough to get in there without risking damage to your rail or the warcomp. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/scale-1787101.jpg Maybe something like this would help ?  2021-01-19_08-19-11 by brandon hobock, on Flickr" />
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:52:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: New reticle coming in ATACR 1-8. Should be an improvement. Nightforce FC-DMx Reticle Super excited about this |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 5:00:49 AM EDT
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What is a good very accurate 11.5-12.5” barrel nowadays?
Also has anyone installed urx 3.1 on their builds? Pics appreciated, thanks |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:43:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: I had mocked it up with the Surefire large shim and thought I would have been closer to 16” with a couple more, but if it takes 0.3” then that’s fine. The shims have nothing to do with getting it to 16". Without those shims the warcomp would be UNDER your URX rail - meaning if you wanted it pinned and welded the warcomp gets shimmed out past the rail. That number of shims was the only combo I could get that timed properly and allowed access to get a drill bit to the warcomp, and still keep OAL at a minimum. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:51:36 AM EDT
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Sounds like it was just not the ideal mix of parts for a pin/weld. Explains why it looks like that.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: The shims have nothing to do with getting it to 16". Without those shims the warcomp would be UNDER your URX rail - meaning if you wanted it pinned and welded the warcomp gets shimmed out past the rail. That number of shims was the only combo I could get that timed properly and allowed access to get a drill bit to the warcomp, and still keep OAL at a minimum. I'd recommend maybe trying this collar next time. Was used on my upper and is fantastic because it allowed a pencil barrel to be used still and P/W shorter without all the shims. KBA Barrel Shoulder Ring  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:12:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: msnyder0609]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: What is a good very accurate 11.5-12.5” barrel nowadays? Also has anyone installed urx 3.1 on their builds? Pics appreciated, thanks I've gotten great accuracy from a Criterion Core 11.5. This one has a Colt 11.5. Hits at 500 with my 77 grain stuff were easy. Haven't shot it for groups yet. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:41:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By msnyder0609: I've gotten great accuracy from a Criterion Core 11.5. This one has a Colt 11.5. Hits at 500 with my 77 grain stuff were easy. Haven't shot it for groups yet. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/II8qoh.jpg Man thats about perfect. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:41:36 PM EDT
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@xxflyingturtlexx
I'll second the criterion core. I love my 12.5 |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:58:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:05:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks great. I kick myself every day for not buying a mini 2 when AU had them in stock  .
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:55:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Looks great. I kick myself every day for not buying a mini 2 when AU had them in stock .I backordered an RC2 from SilencerShop back in October and they told me 3-6 months. It ended up shipping to my dealer in about 2 1/2 months. Not telling how long that wait is now. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: I backordered an RC2 from SilencerShop back in October and they told me 3-6 months. It ended up shipping to my dealer in about 2 1/2 months. Not telling how long that wait is now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Looks great. I kick myself every day for not buying a mini 2 when AU had them in stock .I backordered an RC2 from SilencerShop back in October and they told me 3-6 months. It ended up shipping to my dealer in about 2 1/2 months. Not telling how long that wait is now. Yea I'd hate to pay the 950 everywhere is asking anyway. Much better deal at 600-700. Lets see the rest of those beasts you just posted up. If I can ever find a urx 4 in stock I'll be putting my 14 back together. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:33:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SecretSquirell]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Ya know...sometimes Adco really grinds my gears. What am I looking at here? A pin but no weld? Not to mention the ginormous stack of shims to make a 13.9 16” with a warcomp..? WTH https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hp4dsVgtYQk/YAdQqdVq5fI/AAAAAAAAMfM/3JJTZu_VsJEok9lFZUYXeAe9NaPRRIvmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/517DB88B-F8E6-4CD9-8EE2-F1B657B4CC28.jpeg Looks like a spatter ball on the shims too. ETA: I see this has been covered. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Yea I'd hate to pay the 950 everywhere is asking anyway. Much better deal at 600-700. Lets see the rest of those beasts you just posted up. If I can ever find a urx 4 in stock I'll be putting my 14 back together. Need to get an ATACR with the new reticle to fill that mount...soon. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:05:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Looks like a spatter ball on the shims too. ETA: I see this has been covered. No worries. It was all covered privately through email before being made public too. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:51:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ronnoc]
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New one I have been working on, sort of, some extra parts and put it together.
11.5" BA govt profile BA lopro GB MI 10.5" MLOK rail PSA Premium BCG Upper, no idea no marks Silencerco ASR brake (this is the original brake I had on it on a different weapon and now no other mount will fit  )BlackHawk Gas Can Strike Eagle 1-8x I want another Sionics RGP or Centurion 11.5 LW, but those don't appear to be coming into stock that I have seen. Want different glass at some point. I was really happy on the closeness of the rail and suppressor, just perfect.  Attached FileMy other with some minor changes, really like the mini-recce thing.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:19:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Man thats about perfect. Thanks...But it needed paint. Now it's just about perfect :) 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:57:48 PM EDT
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11.5” and 13.7”
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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:07:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drscws: 11.5” and 13.7” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/229967/C9122F66-DF06-4FFB-92C9-F6AFBE6E9EAC-1790742.jpg |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:14:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: Love em! Which coating did you use there? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: Originally Posted By drscws: 11.5” and 13.7” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/229967/C9122F66-DF06-4FFB-92C9-F6AFBE6E9EAC-1790742.jpg Thanks, it Cerakote Troy Coyote Tan. H-268 is product number/code |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:46:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drscws: 11.5” and 13.7” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/229967/C9122F66-DF06-4FFB-92C9-F6AFBE6E9EAC-1790742.jpg Is that a 14.5 Mod 2 that you cut down? I didn’t think any of the KAC MDs were long enough to do a 13.7 p/w. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 1:51:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By msnyder0609: I've gotten great accuracy from a Criterion Core 11.5. This one has a Colt 11.5. Hits at 500 with my 77 grain stuff were easy. Haven't shot it for groups yet. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/II8qoh.jpg Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: @xxflyingturtlexx I'll second the criterion core. I love my 12.5 Thanks gents, Criterion what i had in the radar, they are on backorder i might just send an order for one |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:11:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wake27: Is that a 14.5 Mod 2 that you cut down? I didn’t think any of the KAC MDs were long enough to do a 13.7 p/w. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wake27: Originally Posted By drscws: 11.5” and 13.7” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/229967/C9122F66-DF06-4FFB-92C9-F6AFBE6E9EAC-1790742.jpg Is that a 14.5 Mod 2 that you cut down? I didn’t think any of the KAC MDs were long enough to do a 13.7 p/w. No, not a mod 2. I originally wanted to do that but changed my mind in the end. And it’s not p/w. SBR |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:14:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drscws: Thanks, it Cerakote Troy Coyote Tan. H-268 is product number/code Appreciate it! I'm going to order some of that this weekend. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 1:43:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:18:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Need to get an ATACR with the new reticle to fill that mount...soon. @Maack i can not wait for that either. |
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