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Posted: 12/20/2010 8:59:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
The Recce platform was something that sprung up within the NSW and 5th SFG communities that first became the Special Purpose Receiver built by Crane, which was supposed to be installed on any M4 lower. After a time when the perfect storm of the users wanting a match-grade trigger and the bolt-bounce issue was identified, the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into a complete rifle that was type-classified as the Mk12. Mk12: A BRIEF HISTORY (as authored by "LGT" & "FL") Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR) Scoped versions of the M16 rifle existed as far back as the 1960s. Like nearly all historic military rifles, the M16 went through decades of efforts to improve its accuracy, both in the military and civilian marksmanship communities. The need for the SPR dates back to the late 1980s and early 1990s when the 7.62mm M21 sniper rifle, a semi-automatic weapon of Vietnam vintage, was replaced by the M24 sniper rifle, a bolt action weapon. The M24 was originally specified to be a .300 Winchester Magnum, but the Army decided to field it in 7.62 NATO for a variety of economic reasons. This left the M24 in the unenviable position of being the worst of both worlds in the eyes of snipers at the time, since it lost the fast-shooing, semiautomatic capability of the M21, but did not gain the range advantage of the .300WM. This compromise left a vacant requirement for a fast-shooting semi-automatic sniper rifle. This need was most apparent in the US Army Special Forces (SF) community, since the other commands within the Special Operations Forces structure filled that need with Knights Armament Corporation's SR-25 sniper rifle. Army SF, being prohibited by its leadership from procuring the SR-25, sought the next best alternative, namely a Special Purpose Receiver (SPR) kit to convert the Army SF M4 carbines into highly accurate rifles. In late 1998, at the request of SFC Steve Holland of 5th Special Forces Group, and the approval of the SOPMOD joint IPT, the Special Operations Peculiar Modifications (SOPMOD) Program Manager, Troy Smith, authorized the purchase of 5 sets of commercial items as an SPR experiment. The original requirement was for USASOC, mainly the SF Groups, as WARCOM had the MK11, 7.62mm system. Once the SPR requirement was developed and demonstrated through experimentation, most of the other commands in USSOCOM added themselves to the Basis of Issue Plan (BOIP). The USSOCOM requirement for the SPR, with improved ammunition, was approved in July 1999, as part of the SOPMOD Kit, Operational Requirements Document, Version 5 (ORD 5). Further initial development included several variants of the SPR and new ammunition that were compatible with the M4 carbine's lower receiver. It was found that standard issue M855 5.56mm ammunition was not consistent enough to meet the requirement. In 2000, based on an upgrade requirement to provide a match-grade trigger to the design, Mr. Paul Miller, the SPR project manager, discovered an opportunity to pick through over 15,000 M16A1s that had been sent to Crane for destruction. Realizing that these M16A1 rifles, some of which were virtually new, could be used as "free lumber" to build full SPR weapons, Paul selected several thousand rifles to be set aside for the new SPR project. The SPR underwent a minor but significant name change, with the R having originally stood for "Receiver" now standing for "Rifle" The new weapon system was worthless without a matching round of ammunition to obtain the performance required. The PEO-SP USSOCOM authorized the new round that became Mk262 as part of the Mk12 system in August 2000. Paul Miller and his SPR team refined the 77-grain prototype ammunition and built approximately 124 SPR Rifles in the summer of 2001. These were finished just in time to ship out to Army SF in late October 2001, to be used in the first invasion of Afghanistan. The SPR rifles were extremely well-received, and the SOF combat units ordered hundreds more. In May 2002, USSOCOM removed the Mk12 and other complete weapons projects from the SOPMOD Program and placed them under the newly-formed USSOCOM Weapons Program. The fielded weapons included two versions (Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle Mod0 and Mod1). Fielding has since been structured for Mk12 Mod1 Special Purpose Rifle only. This rifle is used by Joint USSOCOM Commands and the USMC in combination with M262 (AA53, 77 grain) ammunition. Formal fielding of the full-rate production version of the Mk12 rifle and ammunition occurred in May 2003 and was completed in FY '04. In 2012, as the decade of war on terrorism was winding down and the SCAR weapon system began replacing the requirement for the Mk12, USSOCOM and Naval Special Warfare divested themselves of the Mk12 weapons system, and the Mk12 is now being looked at to fill a Designated Marksman Role within Brown Water Navy commands. View Quote The following parts lists and substitution parts was compiled by lancecriminal86 over the course of a LOT of research. Read up and pay attention! Below are the 100% .mil-spec parts lists to build a true SPR or Mk12 clone. Some of these parts are no longer manufactured and will require much effort and money to locate through forums and online brokers. Keep in mind the rifles were built off donor M16A1s, hence the prevalent A1 parts in the lower receivers and the BCGs. They were also first configured using parts available from 1998-2004, and most are inferior in some ways to newer designs. If this bothers you too much, STOP NOW. The rifles were issued as a kit in a Pelican 1700 case with cutouts. The kits included the rifle with suppressor, optic, bipod, an Eagle TAS-1 UMSS sling (unobtanium and also absolute crap), with a Dewey 1-piece cleaning rod plus Otis cleaning kit, and a cutout for magazines. An operator's manual was also included, however these have not been officially released for public consumption. However, the manuals are out there, and some companies building Mk12 uppers include one. Whether these are official .mil operator's manuals or specially made is currently unclear as the manual itself still contains language that it is not for distribution. - Alternate .mil-spec parts due to NFA, NLA parts, or changes in name/markings for current production in [brackets] - Extra notes about parts or availability are in (parenthesis) LOWER Lower receivers were standard across the SPR/Mk12 variants and the only variations would be between grips, stocks, and buffers. Most were marked either Colt or GM Hydramatic. All other parts were the same in regards to the lower parts. One caveat is the trigger, as the program originally selected the Knight's Armament 2-stage Full Auto Match trigger. Later on, some issues regarding negligent discharges occurred, and Geissele SSF triggers ultimately found their way into the Mk12 family. Whether 100% of all Mk12s eventually received the Geissele trigger isn't clear, so either is acceptable.
The upper receivers, which ultimately differentiate the four variants of the Mk12, have the most variation between each other. Early SPR/Mod0
ModH, Mod "Holland"
Naturally, once these rifles were issued to units, operators and even Marines used various non-issued parts. Here is a short summary of what has been seen: Early SPR/Mod0: Both Leupold 3.5-10x40mm and 3-9x36mm scopes have been used. Many have had carbine stocks like the old CAR-style, enhanced M4, SOPMOD Gen I, or even the Tactical DuoStock swapped on. Mod1: One 3rd SFG-issued rifle pictured with SSgt Robert J. Miller (MoH recipient) used an A.R.M.S #36 S-EX 5.56mm rail, and a Leupold M3X 10x fixed-power scope, possibly pulled from an M-24 or SR-25 rifle. Another has been seen with a Magpul PRS, LaRue mount, and a Premier Reticles 3-15x used by an AMU shooter, and a similar rifle was pictured on a FOB in a very posed-looking photo. Further, a USMC-issued Mod1 was seen using #22 Medium rings instead of High rings, and a LaRue mount has been spotted as well. Grips have varied from the usual A1, A2, and ERGO, and at least one Magpul MIAD has been used. As with the Mod0s, carbine stocks like the SOPMOD and M4 have been used on Mod1s. ModH: The Mod "Holland" was already a small-batch configuration, but even as soon as they were issued to 5th SFG units, some Ace SOCOM stocks were replaced with Magpul ACS and CTR stocks. Optics are basically anything existing in the unit's inventory, from S&B ShortDots still in the system, the 3-9x and 3.5-10x Leupold scopes from earlier Mod0s, and there's even a photo of an ELCAN on a Mod1 floating around. No non-magnified optics like EOTechs or regular Aimpoint M2/M4s, but Micros have been seen on offset mounts. Backup iron sights, as a whole, were almost entirely left unmounted. Grips were again the same usual selection. Parts Alternatives for Clone Building Many parts are rare, expensive, and/or both. Despite this, there are some alternatives to a 100% pure clone that will still provide the same visual look and performance. While not a museum-grade clone, most would be hard-pressed to discern the difference. Just know there are those of us out there that will haze and peer-pressure you into further moving your build towards a true clone. Barrel: Popular options are the White Oak Armament SPR barrel (rifle gas), BCM's SPR barrel, Rainier's Match and Ultramatch offerings (ensure it's the SPR contour with 12th Model profile), Ballistic Advantage's SPR barrel. Compass Lake Engineering can also spin a Mk12 profiled barrel with a Criterion chrome-lined blank, or even a Krieger, which was one of the original contenders for the program. The DPMS Mk12 barrels are NOT properly profiled for a clone. Optics & Rings: In the case of the Leupold 3-9x or 3.5-10x, it's generally okay to go for a non-illuminated version of either, sometimes with M1 or other turrets and reticles. As far as the NightForce scope, the 2.5-10x24mm is not generally released to the public anymore (with one recent exception through Sniper's Hide), so many use the 32mm or even 42mm versions with the #22 High rings. As for the rings, any of the recent produced A.R.M.S. #22s with the lever-stop humps are functionally the same, the desire for non-lever-stops is purely aesthetic when going for the most authentic look. As LaRue LT-104s have been seen in use, it is justifiable to use one depending on whether you have a specific rifle you want to copy, or even just if you absolutely cannot acquire #22 High rings. A.R.M.S. #38 SWAN Sleeve: The #38 family of sleeves are no longer available. Finding them secondhand usually cost $250-$300 easy, more for rarer early variants. Fortunately, PRi's copies of the sleeves look and function almost identically, with minor visual differences. PRi and other builders supply these currently for complete Mod0 builds. FSB: While the set-screw version of PRi's FSB is spec, most use the cross-bolt, clamp-style version. They are extremely robust, and when aligned and torqued, have been shown to hold strong enough that you'll probably shear your barrel extension pin or upper before it budges. This is mainly how Mod0 uppers are supplied by most vendors, including PRi themselves. Suppressor, Brake/Collar: Diverging from the OPS Inc. or AEM brake and collar will get you MAJOR flak. Trust me, I've been running an AAC SPR/M4 for years now and it took a LONG time to not get clubbed every time I posted it. The Allen Engineering AEM5 is basically the current production of the OPS Inc. 12th Model, as they were originally made by Ron Allen and his team in the first place. Only minor differences separate original OPS Inc. cans from AE cans, and these are only obvious to trained eyes. As far as the rest, you can swap Colt parts out for any other .mil-spec parts, like BCM, DD, CMT, etc. Any billet uppers/lowers, funky BCG coatings, extended bolt releases, etc. are extremely frowned upon. Remember, once you start going down the path of building a "better" rifle rather than what was spec, you're quickly beyond clone territory and would have been better off building a custom 16" or 20" rifle. Cloning is generally viewed as all-in or not at all. * * * * * * * * * * Complete Mk12 Mod0 / Mod1 Uppers Bravo Company Manufacturing High Caliber Sales Precision Reflex Inc. Specific Mk12 Tech Augee's side-by-side comparison of the original ARMS SWAN Sleeve and PRI reproduction PEQ Sleeves: bottom of p136 KOBK's side-by-side comparison of PRI Gen I, II, and III handguards, and Gen I and Gen II FSBs, and SWANs: middle of p137 Augee's Mod1 gas block tech: top half of p357 Glass1's Early Mod0 photo breakdown: middle of p449 tamboi's Leupold Vari-X, TS30, and TS30A2 scope history/lineage, and part numbers, p.792 Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Slu54: That's great. Where do I click to buy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Slu54: Originally Posted By cheekibreeki: The manufacturer has been super detailing of how it's built. It's quite superior to the AEM5 in pretty much every way. Granted I'm pretty happy with my AEM5. I'd not pay more than the $650 ish I originally paid now that the OCM5 exists. I can even see the bloppy tack welds inside my AEM5 with a borescope. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/475190/Screenshot_20220110-221645_Instagram_jpg-2236480.JPG To be fair, I don't think anyone is gonna burn out an AEM5 as it is. Just nice to see it improved with some modern know-how. I have a OPS 12th and have been looking at getting a AEM5, but the OCM5 looks intriguing, I may just get that one and see how it sounds and works on my existing MOD 0. |
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Originally Posted By mstennes: I have a OPS 12th and have been looking at getting a AEM5, but the OCM5 looks intriguing, I may just get that one and see how it sounds and works on my existing MOD 0. View Quote I have an AEM5 as well but without knurling. Considered getting another one with knurling but not at inflated prices. Went ahead and got the OCM5 yesterday and look forward to comparing once the form 3 is cleared. |
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Originally Posted By Keyst0ne: I have an AEM5 as well but without knurling. Considered getting another one with knurling but not at inflated prices. Went ahead and got the OCM5 yesterday and look forward to comparing once the form 3 is cleared. View Quote I have 1 x knurled AEM5, I think I got it for lower than MSRP before shit went insane, but I think I'll use this Otter one on a Gordon clone or something. |
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First time posting here. I wanted to ask if I am on the right track here with this optic for my Mod 0. I have a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40 Long Range w/ illumination in the 12 o'clock See links below for images https://i.imgur.com/uuoPfVh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/57cczBl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8kKSlWR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oSoQtV4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7q6F0jW.jpg Thank you for any feedback. |
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Originally Posted By VinniePapers: Hey, First time posting here. I wanted to ask if I am on the right track here with this optic for my Mod 0. I have a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40 Long Range w/ illumination in the 12 o'clock See links below for images https://i.imgur.com/uuoPfVh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/57cczBl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8kKSlWR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oSoQtV4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7q6F0jW.jpg Thank you for any feedback. View Quote I'm not a scope expert, but most pics I've seen have the illumination dial at the 10-11 o'clock. |
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Originally Posted By VinniePapers: Hey, First time posting here. I wanted to ask if I am on the right track here with this optic for my Mod 0. I have a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40 Long Range w/ illumination in the 12 o'clock See links below for images https://i.imgur.com/uuoPfVh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/57cczBl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8kKSlWR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oSoQtV4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7q6F0jW.jpg Thank you for any feedback. View Quote It's not right for as issued, but there's a link to the program with the vertical housing. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By thatdtmsguy: have a OCM5 pre ordered from bauer precision and its been 78 days an no order fulfillment yet... Not clone correct but i wanted something fast. Hoping it ships soon View Quote Oof I got mine from Hansohn bro's and they shipped next day. Maybe see if you can cancel and try your hand through the new e-file f4? Good luck to you sir |
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Yeah.. I called them yesterday and was like; can I cancel my order or something in case I PCS without ever at least having the suppressor shipped to my dealer?
They were like nah you cant get your money back on a preorder. I’ll tell you it’s the last time I ever give Bauer precision any of my money.. |
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Originally Posted By js1977: Thanks for the heads up, I'll let you know if I get a shipped notification soon. View Quote You might have some luck with their gun broker or bay pages. I've tried to order #22M rings from them, site listed them as "in-stock"; well, no, they weren't in stock at all. If you see it on their bay or GB, it's probably actually in stock, maybe. |
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Originally Posted By thatdtmsguy: Yeah.. I called them yesterday and was like; can I cancel my order or something in case I PCS without ever at least having the suppressor shipped to my dealer? They were like nah you cant get your money back on a preorder. I'll tell you it's the last time I ever give Bauer precision any of my money.. View Quote I ordered a rail from 'em, was sent a tracking and after a while the tracking never updated. Called and was told it already shipped, and was then informed by another employee that not only had it not shipped, they didn't even have it in stock. |
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Unfortunately, I have the same story to tell. I ordered ARMs rings and soon found out their website didn’t reflect their stock. I called to cancel, and the man on the phone re assured me that I could send them back after delivery. Good news is, I got them 18 months later. Found out I have a 10% restock fee. Guess I’ll keep them as a lesson not to purchase from them again. F them.
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Originally Posted By Pipemonkey: Unfortunately, I have the same story to tell. I ordered ARMs rings and soon found out their website didn’t reflect their stock. I called to cancel, and the man on the phone re assured me that I could send them back after delivery. Good news is, I got them 18 months later. Found out I have a 10% restock fee. Guess I’ll keep them as a lesson not to purchase from them again. F them. View Quote |
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Wish you luck. I think they are a drop ship company. I don’t think they have any/much for inventory.
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Originally Posted By thatdtmsguy: Yeah.. I called them yesterday and was like; can I cancel my order or something in case I PCS without ever at least having the suppressor shipped to my dealer? They were like nah you cant get your money back on a preorder. I’ll tell you it’s the last time I ever give Bauer precision any of my money.. View Quote Just got an email from them today that they have OCM5's in stock. I am also waiting on them for a pre-order, have you heard anything from them yet? |
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I've tried ordering arms 22 rings from mounts plus twice. Both times showed in stock and went to back order. The second time I put in the order during the black Friday sale while also having a backorder in at brownells and just had my brownells one filled so cancelled with mounts plus. |
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Originally Posted By bs63366: Just got an email from them today that they have OCM5's in stock. I am also waiting on them for a pre-order, have you heard anything from them yet? View Quote Not yet.. i called them the other day too and sent them a long email. Basically, they told me they got a shipment in yesterday and they will be Form 3'ing the OCM5's this week. What they didnt tell me, was where I fell in the becking order... So their info was useless to me. I contacted otter creek labs and they assured me they would have their preorder #2's to Bauer by the end of December 2021. So something isnt adding up lol I also told them i may have to contact my credit card company and reverse that charge since i PCS in May and am running out of time. its been 80 days since i preordered the can and they cant even tell me when they might be able to fulfill my order. In my opinion, they bit off more than they could chew and they don't have any visibility on their own pre-order. |
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Originally Posted By thatdtmsguy: Not yet.. i called them the other day too and sent them a long email. Basically, they told me they got a shipment in yesterday and they will be Form 3'ing the OCM5's this week. What they didnt tell me, was where I fell in the becking order... So their info was useless to me. I contacted otter creek labs and they assured me they would have their preorder #2's to Bauer by the end of December 2021. So something isnt adding up lol I also told them i may have to contact my credit card company and reverse that charge since i PCS in May and am running out of time. its been 80 days since i preordered the can and they cant even tell me when they might be able to fulfill my order. In my opinion, they bit off more than they could chew and they don't have any visibility on their own pre-order. View Quote I would thoroughly review their policies before initiating a chargeback, though, after lightly reviewing them myself I see no where that they say preorders are non-refundable. The only thing I see that is applicable to you is on this page https://www.bauer-precision.com/faq/#reamaze#0#/kb/orders-shipping-returns/returns where it says any cancellations on orders before the form 3 has been filed will incur a 10% fee. If they are following their posted policies, then the transaction will likely not be deemed fraudulent. You also want to make sure you screen shot all of their applicable policies and note the date and time and also, through email, make sure you pursue multiple avenues of reconciliation and if you tell BP that if negotiations on the cancellation fail you're going to pursue a chargeback, make it clear that is the last outcome you wish to see. Framing the conversation in this manner will go a long way with convincing your financial institutions investigation team that the retailer was in fact acting both outside of their stated policies and in bad faith. |
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Originally Posted By ringer706: Haven't posted an update here in a while, been sticking mostly to instagram, but for anyone who's been wondering what I've been up to... https://i.imgur.com/MUzjEqv.jpg View Quote Looks like progress! |
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Originally Posted By Tactical_Bucket: Anyone know what's up with the knurling on this thread protector? Any idea of origin? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/525856/PXL_20220114_062054200_jpg-2239732.JPG View Quote @Tactical_Bucket that's a Smith Enterprise Vortex Ops Inc thread protector |
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Originally Posted By joegoos: I've tried ordering arms 22 rings from mounts plus twice. Both times showed in stock and went to back order. The second time I put in the order during the black Friday sale while also having a backorder in at brownells and just had my brownells one filled so cancelled with mounts plus. View Quote So Mounts Plus actually got it to me today, I think I ordered on Wed. 1 x 22TRC and 1 x 22TRR and I was surprised to see it in the mail. At least as of Wed they actually had it. Ya'll scared me a bit. |
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Originally Posted By Slu54: So Mounts Plus actually got it to me today, I think I ordered on Wed. 1 x 22TRC and 1 x 22TRR and I was surprised to see it in the mail. At least as of Wed they actually had it. Ya'll scared me a bit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Slu54: Originally Posted By joegoos: I've tried ordering arms 22 rings from mounts plus twice. Both times showed in stock and went to back order. The second time I put in the order during the black Friday sale while also having a backorder in at brownells and just had my brownells one filled so cancelled with mounts plus. So Mounts Plus actually got it to me today, I think I ordered on Wed. 1 x 22TRC and 1 x 22TRR and I was surprised to see it in the mail. At least as of Wed they actually had it. Ya'll scared me a bit. Awesome. Glad you got them. Last set I ordered from them I got a call a few days later and was told they didn't have them in stock Glad you had a better experience! |
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Originally Posted By Slu54: So Mounts Plus actually got it to me today, I think I ordered on Wed. 1 x 22TRC and 1 x 22TRR and I was surprised to see it in the mail. At least as of Wed they actually had it. Ya'll scared me a bit. View Quote To be fair I ordered an arms 18 mount from them too and got it no problems, just seems like for stuff in high demand their website doesn't reflect accurate inventory. |
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Originally Posted By thatdtmsguy: Not yet.. i called them the other day too and sent them a long email. Basically, they told me they got a shipment in yesterday and they will be Form 3'ing the OCM5's this week. What they didnt tell me, was where I fell in the becking order... So their info was useless to me. I contacted otter creek labs and they assured me they would have their preorder #2's to Bauer by the end of December 2021. So something isnt adding up lol I also told them i may have to contact my credit card company and reverse that charge since i PCS in May and am running out of time. its been 80 days since i preordered the can and they cant even tell me when they might be able to fulfill my order. In my opinion, they bit off more than they could chew and they don't have any visibility on their own pre-order. View Quote I'm headed out that way on Monday so I will probably stop by and see whats going on and will update after that. They did post a large pile of OCM5's on instagram the other day, but correct me if I'm wrong, but the form 3 has to be done before they can ship them from Otter Creek to Bauer, so they should all be form 3'd if Bauer has them already. |
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Originally Posted By bs63366: I'm headed out that way on Monday so I will probably stop by and see whats going on and will update after that. They did post a large pile of OCM5's on instagram the other day, but correct me if I'm wrong, but the form 3 has to be done before they can ship them from Otter Creek to Bauer, so they should all be form 3'd if Bauer has them already. View Quote Appreciate it man! yeah i saw that post as well. |
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Originally Posted By bs63366: but correct me if I'm wrong, but the form 3 has to be done before they can ship them from Otter Creek to Bauer, so they should all be form 3'd if Bauer has them already. View Quote Its a form 3 approval for EACH transfer from one dealer to another. They are quick though -- Hansohn submitted my form 3 on the 10th and shipped on the 13th. It's being delivered today and I'll check it out on Monday! |
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What optics are clone correct to throw on top of my scope on my Mod 1? Dr Optic and RMR?
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Originally Posted By Yumago: What optics are clone correct to throw on top of my scope on my Mod 1? Dr Optic and RMR? View Quote Doctor or Insight MRDS. Neither were issued with the kit but there are lots of pics of those two being used. JPoints (confirmed in photos, just looked through the album) also. And Aimpoint T1 I'll add that both the Doctor and Insights have become extremely hard to find as of late, especially for a reasonable price. JPoint would be easiest to obtain. I'd love to find a FDE Insight MRDS for a good price some time. I have a Doctor on my Mod H but would love an Insight to go on my CQBR Block 2 |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: saving some more people from a terrible nights sleep....one set at a time..... https://i.postimg.cc/qMHLngxX/IMG-20220116-210519.jpg View Quote IM in bound, that reminds me I bought that set of mediums needing that needed a little love. |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: saving some more people from a terrible nights sleep....one set at a time..... https://i.postimg.cc/qMHLngxX/IMG-20220116-210519.jpg View Quote What is this? |
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