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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:01:30 PM EDT
[#1]
hopefully not in that order...
This would be my first to last choice out of these 4. 1. Colt 2. S&W 3. Rock River 4. Ruger |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:01:45 PM EDT
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from that list, Colt hands down, and you can get one for around $1200.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:01:52 PM EDT
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The Ruger 556 came out recently so I cannot comment on the durability. The above other manufactures are good.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:03:58 PM EDT
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For that amount of cash I would go with a Colt, mags, and ammo. You know you're getting a quality rifle with everything in it being mil-spec Bolt carrier is staked, bolt is magnetic particle tested, shot peened, etc. I'm sure other members will join in shortly and go into greater detail.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:05:54 PM EDT
[#5]
What's a Noveske sell for?
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:06:09 PM EDT
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I would like to know what your intended use is.
While Colt is clearly a great rifle, a Colt 6920 might not be the best rifle for your intended use. You may enjoy a configuration other than the standard M4 better. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:06:19 PM EDT
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from that list, Colt hands down, and you can get one for around $1200. +1 6920s have dropped to $1100 over the last few weeks. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:08:14 PM EDT
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from that list, Colt hands down, and you can get one for around $1200. +1 out of the 4 you listed, i'd put colt first followed by s&w. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:10:19 PM EDT
[#9]
colt out of whats listed....
out of non listed and listed... DDM4 |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:18:12 PM EDT
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I'd look for a Noveske on the EE, you can find one for 1500 and its one of the better options NOT listed...but should be considered regardless.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:18:16 PM EDT
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BCM upper 16" or 20".......$475
bcm charging handle......$24 bcm m16 bcg.......$160 doublestar lower.....$99 lpk........$60 Then from there you can go whatever route you want. I went pretty KISS with my BCM rig because it's more utility/plinking purposed. Or you can just get a base Noveske or Daniel Defense M4. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:20:49 PM EDT
[#12]
6920 or N4 Light Basic.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:23:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Colt LE6920.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:47:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Looks like its Colt hands down.
Im so looking forward to getting a .223. I have a few other questions. I live near Impact Guns, would you guys recommend I go buy the gun from them? Also, what .223/5.56 ammunition is the best bang for the buck? I plan on getting an optis a few months after I get the gun. I want an Acog more than anything but that costs just as much as the gun so Im trying to decide between Aimpoint, EOTech and Burris? Any recommendations? |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:51:15 PM EDT
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Looks like its Colt hands down. Im so looking forward to getting a .223. I have a few other questions. I live near Impact Guns, would you guys recommend I go buy the gun from them? Also, what .223/5.56 ammunition is the best bang for the buck? I plan on getting an optis a few months after I get the gun. I want an Acog more than anything but that costs just as much as the gun so Im trying to decide between Aimpoint, EOTech and Burris? Any recommendations? Here's my 2 cents Impact guns prices on Colts are too high Look for one online that can be transferred to you Best ammo for your $ is Prvi m193 As for optics Aimpoint T1 micro in a Larue mount. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:52:33 PM EDT
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I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle.
Is Noveske on par with Colt? |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:52:54 PM EDT
[#17]
one of these:
LaRue stealth 16inch upper $1100 RRA Lower W/CAA Buttstock and RRA LPK $270 Hogue Grip $20 Magpul BUIS $100 Grand Total $1490 savings of $10 for a "ferrari of ar's" 
oh yea $25 bucks for the front grip  
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:57:06 PM EDT
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6920 or N4 Light Basic. +1 |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 6:57:59 PM EDT
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hopefully not in that order... This would be my first to last choice out of these 4. 1. Colt 2. S&W 3. Rock River 4. Ruger +1 |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:00:35 PM EDT
[#20]
Colt. Noveske if you want to spend some more.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:08:05 PM EDT
[#21]
If you want good value for your money, look into BCM. Quality is on par w/ Colt & they offer midlengths as well.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:08:17 PM EDT
[#22]
Im liking the 6940 and the M&P15T.
Id get that Noveske but its $2k. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:09:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:14:13 PM EDT
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http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135796281 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135407397 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135580948 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135686751 ...etc., etc. That first one is the one! Man, Im so excited. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:26:45 PM EDT
[#25]
Fo' shizzle!
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:29:57 PM EDT
[#26]
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hopefully not in that order... This would be my first to last choice out of these 4. 1. Colt 2. S&W 3. Rock River 4. Ruger This (from your list). Myself........ Noveske. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 7:33:11 PM EDT
[#27]
BCM upper 16" or 20".......$475
bcm charging handle......$24 bcm m16 bcg.......$160 doublestar lower.....$99 lpk........$60 This, but sub a BCM lower for the DS lower and LPK. Also, make the upper a middy and drop an omega 9" rail on it or wait till the DD lite rail package is available. Pick up a couple PMAGs, and some troy BUISs. That's a top of the line AR right there. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 8:08:13 PM EDT
[#28]
Bravo Company Middie & Bravo Company Lower
For what you want & wanna spend...it's a good fit With money left over for a Aimpoint and mount & maybe even a couple of Pmags |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 8:19:28 PM EDT
[#29]
If you want the best rifle for $1500 (not including mags/accessories/ammo) then my choice would be Noveske hands down.
In stock here for $1495 and $1525 Carbine: http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=r-lcb-556&cat=47&page=1&search=&since=&status= Recce: http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=r-lrb-556&cat=47&page=1&search=&since=&status= If you don't want to spend that much then I would go with Colt, BCM, LMT, DD, Sabre, or S&W |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 8:25:24 PM EDT
[#30]
From my research, it seems the Colt is good quality for the price.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 8:57:15 PM EDT
[#31]
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BCM upper 16" or 20".......$475
bcm charging handle......$24 bcm m16 bcg.......$160 doublestar lower.....$99 lpk........$60 This, but sub a BCM lower for the DS lower and LPK. Also, make the upper a middy and drop an omega 9" rail on it or wait till the DD lite rail package is available. Pick up a couple PMAGs, and some troy BUISs. That's a top of the line AR right there. So that would be a good rifle? Why is it so much cheaper to build your own? |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 8:57:53 PM EDT
[#32]
dude you can't go wrong w/ BCM. Get:
Middie upper $475 BCG/CH $160 Lower $350 Before shipping/FFL, thats under a grand for a very good rifle. Use the rest for goodies and ammo. LMT is another option for you. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:00:21 PM EDT
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http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135796281 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135407397 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135580948 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135686751 ...etc., etc. That first one is the one! Man, Im so excited. Does this mean you are going with the Colt 6940? |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:08:47 PM EDT
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dude you can't go wrong w/ BCM. Get: Middie upper $475 BCG/CH $160 Lower $350 Before shipping/FFL, thats under a grand for a very good rifle. Use the rest for goodies and ammo. LMT is another option for you. This. Use saved money on optics. One thing this thread proved is there is an abundance of people out there that don't know squat about the new Ruger. Love how people that have never touched something are experts on it.
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:12:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? i would probably go w/ one of the bcm ss middies w/ the dd rail, then pick up a bcm lower and also bcg and ch. you should be g2g w/ that and a middie too. i would say bcm is on par w/ colt, noveske, lmt - definiely tier 1 in fact i have an extra bcg that may push me into this exact build  |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:15:18 PM EDT
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http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135796281 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135407397 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135580948 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135686751 ...etc., etc. That first one is the one! Man, Im so excited. Does this mean you are going with the Colt 6940? No, its either the Colt 6940, the Noveske Recce, or the BCM. Ill probably do the BCM if its going to be cheaper and still a good gun. I have everything picked out but the striped lower. Should I go DoubleStar or are there any other good options? Thanks so much for the help guys. I really appreciate it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:25:04 PM EDT
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http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135796281 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135407397 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135580948 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135686751 ...etc., etc. That first one is the one! Man, Im so excited. Does this mean you are going with the Colt 6940? No, its either the Colt 6940, the Noveske Recce, or the BCM. Ill probably do the BCM if its going to be cheaper and still a good gun. I have everything picked out but the striped lower. Should I go DoubleStar or are there any other good options? Thanks so much for the help guys. I really appreciate it. All three of those are extremely good decisions and you can't go wrong with any of them. If you go with BCM I would buy one of their lowers from Denny's. I bought one about a month ago and the quality is great. If you want a stripped lower, pretty much everything is good except Vulcan/Hesse/Blackthorne. Just pick the rollmark you like the best 
http://global-tactical.com/bravocompanymfgcompletelowerreceiver.aspx |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:38:05 PM EDT
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http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135796281 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135407397 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135580948 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135686751 ...etc., etc. That first one is the one! Man, Im so excited. Does this mean you are going with the Colt 6940? No, its either the Colt 6940, the Noveske Recce, or the BCM. Ill probably do the BCM if its going to be cheaper and still a good gun. I have everything picked out but the striped lower. Should I go DoubleStar or are there any other good options? Thanks so much for the help guys. I really appreciate it. All three of those are extremely good decisions and you can't go wrong with any of them. If you go with BCM I would buy one of their lowers from Denny's. I bought one about a month ago and the quality is great. If you want a stripped lower, pretty much everything is good except Vulcan/Hesse/Blackthorne. Just pick the rollmark you like the best
http://global-tactical.com/bravocompanymfgcompletelowerreceiver.aspx Cool. Ill get that BCM complete lower. I have OCD and it would drive me crazy having different manufacturers parts on my gun. So pretty much all I need for the rifle is: BCM complete upper. BCM complete lower. BCM charging handle. BCM BCG. Is that about right? |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:47:19 PM EDT
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http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135796281 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135407397 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135580948 and http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135686751 ...etc., etc. That first one is the one! Man, Im so excited. Does this mean you are going with the Colt 6940? No, its either the Colt 6940, the Noveske Recce, or the BCM. Ill probably do the BCM if its going to be cheaper and still a good gun. I have everything picked out but the striped lower. Should I go DoubleStar or are there any other good options? Thanks so much for the help guys. I really appreciate it. All three of those are extremely good decisions and you can't go wrong with any of them. If you go with BCM I would buy one of their lowers from Denny's. I bought one about a month ago and the quality is great. If you want a stripped lower, pretty much everything is good except Vulcan/Hesse/Blackthorne. Just pick the rollmark you like the best
http://global-tactical.com/bravocompanymfgcompletelowerreceiver.aspx Cool. Ill get that BCM complete lower. I have OCD and it would drive me crazy having different manufacturers parts on my gun. So pretty much all I need for the rifle is: BCM complete upper. BCM complete lower. BCM charging handle. BCM BCG. Is that about right? Yep, that's all you need. I'm usually the same way unless it's a special lower like KAC or Magpul. If you get all BCM you'll have one of the best guns money can buy. Even Pat Rogers (one of the most respected people in the industry) has recently stated that: "I also have three Bravo Company Mid Length guns, the oldest of which has 19,620 rounds down range. I believe that BCM makes the best service grade guns on the market." |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:49:33 PM EDT
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You will need a rear sight to go on that BCM upper
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Posted: 7/30/2009 9:59:18 PM EDT
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You will need a rear sight to go on that BCM upper + a couple magazines and ammo |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 10:09:26 PM EDT
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LARUE
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Posted: 7/30/2009 10:13:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: +1, why get a run of the mill rifle when you can do this? When I bought my first rifle, if I'd known then what I know now, I'd have done nearly exactly what is suggested above (I would go with a MIAD grip and CTR stock though... probably a $70-80 adder over what's abovve).one of these: LaRue stealth 16inch upper $1100 RRA Lower W/CAA Buttstock and RRA LPK $270 Hogue Grip $20 Magpul BUIS $100 Grand Total $1490 savings of $10 for a "ferrari of ar's" oh yea $25 bucks for the front grip http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss28/chadwick76/DSC_1714.jpg |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 10:16:58 PM EDT
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LARUE +1 |
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Posted: 7/30/2009 10:23:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Nevermind
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Posted: 7/30/2009 11:58:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: one of these: LaRue stealth 16inch upper $1100 RRA Lower W/CAA Buttstock and RRA LPK $270 Hogue Grip $20 Magpul BUIS $100 Grand Total $1490 savings of $10 for a "ferrari of ar's" oh yea $25 bucks for the front grip http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss28/chadwick76/DSC_1714.jpgHow much does this rifle weigh empty? With a full 30rd mag? |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 12:22:01 AM EDT
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from a guy who buys cheap but good quality items (frugal
), i have 1 tier 1 firearm, the rest are frankenguns. personally i would get a miad grip - very comfortable and a better than tapco/even bcm stock, like a ctr or moe - from what i have asked here lately, it appears that the moe may be a bit loose compared to the ctrs, so that may be an issue for you.if possible i would ask whoever is putting out the bcm lowers to at least do a moe stock or if you want to pay the extra $$ go the ctr and have them change the grip. this is where you building your own lower can be nice and not having to possibly pay more to change stuff out if the distributor won't change the items. unfortunately i don't think bcm is putting out stripped lowers, but i could be wrong. fwiw, i do personally have a double star lower and it works very well and all mags work nicely - pmags, usgi & cproducts. these 2 small upgrades make a nice difference, imho easily worth the $$ - better stock and a nice grip. it really makes that much of a difference imho. also, do a bit of forward thinking - for me all my ars have ff quad rails because i need a very sturdy moung for a vfg due to shoulder issues, so think about things like that and order once w/ what you really want. for sites, the magpul mbus are nice for the money. in the mean time i would sign up for the bcm email alert and watch their industry area for a bcg, figure what upper you are going to go w/, etc, but get a bcg - the uppers are starting to show up more and more, the last thing you want is a complete rifle sans bcg. and you do save a bit buying a seperate lower and upper - there is some tax on complete firearms, not so on seperate uppers and lower setups. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 10:11:36 AM EDT
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from a guy who buys cheap but good quality items (frugal ), i have 1 tier 1 firearm, the rest are frankenguns. personally i would get a miad grip - very comfortable and a better than tapco/even bcm stock, like a ctr or moe - from what i have asked here lately, it appears that the moe may be a bit loose compared to the ctrs, so that may be an issue for you.
if possible i would ask whoever is putting out the bcm lowers to at least do a moe stock or if you want to pay the extra $$ go the ctr and have them change the grip. this is where you building your own lower can be nice and not having to possibly pay more to change stuff out if the distributor won't change the items. unfortunately i don't think bcm is putting out stripped lowers, but i could be wrong. fwiw, i do personally have a double star lower and it works very well and all mags work nicely - pmags, usgi & cproducts. these 2 small upgrades make a nice difference, imho easily worth the $$ - better stock and a nice grip. it really makes that much of a difference imho. also, do a bit of forward thinking - for me all my ars have ff quad rails because i need a very sturdy moung for a vfg due to shoulder issues, so think about things like that and order once w/ what you really want. for sites, the magpul mbus are nice for the money. in the mean time i would sign up for the bcm email alert and watch their industry area for a bcg, figure what upper you are going to go w/, etc, but get a bcg - the uppers are starting to show up more and more, the last thing you want is a complete rifle sans bcg. and you do save a bit buying a seperate lower and upper - there is some tax on complete firearms, not so on seperate uppers and lower setups. Awesome. Im not 100% sure, but I think I may build a complete BCM gun: BCM complete upper. BCM complete lower. BCM charging handle. BCM BCG. BCM rear sight. 3x Magpul PMAGs 1000x Wolf .223. That should be just about it. I cant wait! Thanks for the helps guys. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 10:40:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: from a guy who buys cheap but good quality items (frugal ), i have 1 tier 1 firearm, the rest are frankenguns. personally i would get a miad grip - very comfortable and a better than tapco/even bcm stock, like a ctr or moe - from what i have asked here lately, it appears that the moe may be a bit loose compared to the ctrs, so that may be an issue for you.if possible i would ask whoever is putting out the bcm lowers to at least do a moe stock or if you want to pay the extra $$ go the ctr and have them change the grip. this is where you building your own lower can be nice and not having to possibly pay more to change stuff out if the distributor won't change the items. unfortunately i don't think bcm is putting out stripped lowers, but i could be wrong. fwiw, i do personally have a double star lower and it works very well and all mags work nicely - pmags, usgi & cproducts. these 2 small upgrades make a nice difference, imho easily worth the $$ - better stock and a nice grip. it really makes that much of a difference imho. also, do a bit of forward thinking - for me all my ars have ff quad rails because i need a very sturdy moung for a vfg due to shoulder issues, so think about things like that and order once w/ what you really want. for sites, the magpul mbus are nice for the money. in the mean time i would sign up for the bcm email alert and watch their industry area for a bcg, figure what upper you are going to go w/, etc, but get a bcg - the uppers are starting to show up more and more, the last thing you want is a complete rifle sans bcg. and you do save a bit buying a seperate lower and upper - there is some tax on complete firearms, not so on seperate uppers and lower setups. Awesome. Im not 100% sure, but I think I may build a complete BCM gun: BCM complete upper. BCM complete lower. BCM charging handle. BCM BCG. BCM rear sight. 3x Magpul PMAGs 1000x Wolf .223. That should be just about it. I cant wait! Thanks for the helps guys. i think you will be happy. and the nice thing about bcm, is if there is an issue, they have about the best customer service one could ask for. the chances are very small that there will be an issue, but sometimes things happen and it is nice to know that the company will take care of any issues and bend over backward to make the customer happy. keep us updated |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 11:51:20 AM EDT
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I might be able to get it sooner than anticipated. My bro just got another year of GI Bill so he might buy it for us.
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