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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:11:18 AM EDT
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Honestly i have always heard bad stuff too, but i know folks who own them that have had nothing but reliable results with the ones they have
So im sure its been a few problems here and there that have been amplified many times by the internet commandos. 
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:12:48 AM EDT
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I hear bad things about them as well, much like DPMS.
I never hear bad things about BCM and Colt. Needless to say...I buy BCM. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:13:52 AM EDT
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they're junk
seriously I neither hate or like them. No experience here 
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:17:05 AM EDT
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OK, I'll give it my best shot.....
STRIPPED LOWERS: I has one @1995, got it new and built it on a Bushy kit, worked good. I droped it about a year later, shattered the lower. I got 2 for Y2K, was telling the clerk about the above incident, and 'clacked' the two together- one broke WHOLE GUNS: only shoot brass, cant shoot WOLF––and dont say wolf sucks, I shoot fantastic at my 100yrd range with it;I DONT WANT TO BE LIMITED BY AMMO seem to rust faster on springs and LPK IMHO |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:21:47 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I hear bad things about them as well, much like DPMS. I never hear bad things about BCM and Colt. Needless to say...I buy BCM. Well here is your first bad hearing about a Colt, my 1st had a finish like a 5th grader did the Anodizing and the second one had the barrel nut over torqued and almost gaulded the threads, but I saved them with a file and a lot of work. Happy now
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:22:07 AM EDT
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I has one @1995, got it new and built it on a Bushy kit, worked good. I droped it about a year later, shattered the lower.
Shattered??? Now im not saying that you are full of it, but i have never heard of aluminum shattering. No chance you have a pic of that? |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:24:06 AM EDT
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I built my first AR about 15 years ago as a total budget build ––- Olympic lower with a Model 1 carbine kit –– the whole thing cost maybe 500 bucks –– and over the years has really provided a lot of bang for the buck.
That said –– the only real problems i have had with it was a buildup of "junk" in the chamber when i was shooting Wolf ammo ––––––- and –––––––– the OLY lower has some issues with the FCG pins (trigger pins) walking out –– have to check them constantly ––- this started happening after about 1000 rounds –– i have since installed trigger pins with little c-clips to fix it, but i thought it was a testament to the quality of the casting. I had that happen to an M-16 when i was in the Army, but that rifle was at least 20 years old when it was issued to me as far as the Model 1 kit –– the FCG is generic, but the barrel was chrome lined, came with a properly staked M-16 BCG and has otherwise been bulletproof ––- wish you could still build one for 500 bucks now for a cheap blaster |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:24:38 AM EDT
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they used to over use their reamers until the chambers were custom sized
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:26:03 AM EDT
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I haven't owned an Olly, but I've fondled plenty of them at gun shows that were sloppy loose and rattly
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:28:10 AM EDT
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I haven't owned an Olly, but I've fondled plenty of them at gun shows that were sloppy loose and rattly 
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:33:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: I haven't owned an Olly, but I've fondled plenty of them at gun shows that were sloppy loose and rattly Have you tried charging one? It's like dragging a tin bucket full of bricks down a dirt road. The last one I saw they appeared to have messed up on the finishing so badly that the area within about 1/2 an inch of the FSB had no finish on it. That, or maybe they soldered on the FSB.  The bolt carrier appeared to be either blued or painted... Whatever it was, it wasn't manganese phosphate. I don't need to buy it to know it is way below an acceptable level of quality. I don't have to eat shit to know it stinks. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:35:26 AM EDT
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I has one @1995, got it new and built it on a Bushy kit, worked good. I droped it about a year later, shattered the lower.
Shattered??? Now im not saying that you are full of it, but i have never heard of aluminum shattering. No chance you have a pic of that? not like glass, but broke into a bunch of pieces; the dealer was unable to do anything, but when I was at the shop for the Y2K buy, They were able to refuse them for me. I am not full of it, there was something about "cast" and "forged" that they did that sorta put a foul taste in peoples minds about them. I was building one for my Father that had to go back because the hammer pin holes were in the wrong spot. EAGLE SCOUTS HONOR that I'm not lying. I have thrown other mfg and did not even scratch them, these should not have broken with the slight 'stress test' that I gave them I do not feel the need to loose any more money on that brand kKlroy: If you email me directly, I'll give the dealers name and number to you if you want to call him directly |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:37:49 AM EDT
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I don't know if they still do... But Olympic put out a lot of cast lowers that people broke very easily.
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:40:28 AM EDT
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I don't know if they still do... But Olympic put out a lot of cast lowers that people broke very easily. +1 for this, and when I look at them used, I cant tell the difference- I dont want to get screwed again; so I avoid them |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:43:03 AM EDT
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My only experience with Olympic Arms is a lower that I SBR's about 6 years ago and have had absolutely zero problems with it. The upper to lower fit with ALL uppers I have tried have been extremely good (tight with no movment) and for the $100 retail that I paid has served me well.
MadDog 
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:43:24 AM EDT
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I've owned a few Olys and still own a couple.
I had a pre-ban CAR for years that was 100% reliable, never a problem. When the federal AWB expired, I traded it to a fellow Arfcommer in a AWB state for a similar new AR that was legal here but not there. I had another NIB CAR that I sold before ever putting any rounds through it, back in my FFL days –– no idea of its quality.  I still prefer their pistol-caliber ARs to anyone else's design. I had one of their older Sten-mag 9mm ARs for years and many thousands of rounds –– it was great, and I only sold the upper last year after falling in love with their GL-1s and realizing that I never shot the Sten version anymore. I currently have two of their Glock-mag 9mm GL-1 ARs and absolutely love then. I haven't shot them as long or as much as my old one yet, but zero complaints so far. So that's my experience, FWIW –– 5 Oly ARs over the years, 4 very good ones and 1 that I just can't speak to either way. YMMV, and my own experience is not in line with many others here.  |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:46:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: My only experience with Olympic Arms is a lower that I SBR's about 6 years ago and have had absolutely zero problems with it. The upper to lower fit with ALL uppers I have tried have been extremely good (tight with no movment) and for the $100 retail that I paid has served me well. MadDog  That is terrifying. I wouldn't even consider that... You can get a good lower for $100... |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:48:25 AM EDT
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Here's why I hate them...
This was my FIRST AR15. The WORST $600 I've EVER spent!!! 
They wanted to charge me to fix it...and pay for shipping both ways, it was BRAND NEW!!! I also would have to wait 4-6 months till I could have it back. No thanks. I bought a different lower (ASA) and it's still was a POS rifle. After a new BCG, Bolt, gas tube and firing pin, it FINALLY started running again. I sold it ! Since then I've had Bushmaster, RRA, Colt, CMMG(bargin bin), STAG and built a full Spikes rifle. I've NEVER had a problem with any other rifle. Including a rifle that got run over on accident (friend leaned my bargin big rifle on the bumper of a truck while he was putting stuff away at a range and the person in the truck backed up...gun was fine!). Olympic is a no-go in my book. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:53:02 AM EDT
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My Oly PCR7 is still going strong 8 years later with zero failures. More than 5K rounds down the pipe. Is it a Colt? No. But for my money it was worth it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:54:22 AM EDT
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Here's why I hate them... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS094.jpg This was my FIRST AR15. The WORST $600 I've EVER spent!!! http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS096.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS105.jpg They wanted to charge me to fix it...and pay for shipping both ways, it was BRAND NEW!!! I also would have to wait 4-6 months till I could have it back. No thanks. I bought a different lower (ASA) and it's still was a POS rifle. After a new BCG, Bolt, gas tube and firing pin, it FINALLY started running again. I sold it ! Since then I've had Bushmaster, RRA, Colt, CMMG(bargin bin), STAG and built a full Spikes rifle. I've NEVER had a problem with any other rifle. Including a rifle that got run over on accident (friend leaned my bargin big rifle on the bumper of a truck while he was putting stuff away at a range and the person in the truck backed up...gun was fine!). Olympic is a no-go in my book. Are you still friends? haha |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:55:15 AM EDT
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Overtightening the buffer tube with the buffer retainer in place can result in that with any brand receiver. Not saying that's what you did, but seen it done.That's what this looks like, though. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:55:34 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Here's why I hate them... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS094.jpg This was my FIRST AR15. The WORST $600 I've EVER spent!!! http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS096.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS105.jpg They wanted to charge me to fix it...and pay for shipping both ways, it was BRAND NEW!!! I also would have to wait 4-6 months till I could have it back. No thanks. I bought a different lower (ASA) and it's still was a POS rifle. After a new BCG, Bolt, gas tube and firing pin, it FINALLY started running again. I sold it ! Since then I've had Bushmaster, RRA, Colt, CMMG(bargin bin), STAG and built a full Spikes rifle. I've NEVER had a problem with any other rifle. Including a rifle that got run over on accident (friend leaned my bargin big rifle on the bumper of a truck while he was putting stuff away at a range and the person in the truck backed up...gun was fine!). Olympic is a no-go in my book. Damn! well i guess that i would be pissed if that were my rifle too. seeing that i almost wish i had pulled my head out of my ass and waited till i had the money for the stag i wanted instead of setteling for my oly |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:58:02 AM EDT
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Here's why I hate them... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS094.jpg This was my FIRST AR15. The WORST $600 I've EVER spent!!! http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS096.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS105.jpg They wanted to charge me to fix it...and pay for shipping both ways, it was BRAND NEW!!! I also would have to wait 4-6 months till I could have it back. No thanks. I bought a different lower (ASA) and it's still was a POS rifle. After a new BCG, Bolt, gas tube and firing pin, it FINALLY started running again. I sold it ! Since then I've had Bushmaster, RRA, Colt, CMMG(bargin bin), STAG and built a full Spikes rifle. I've NEVER had a problem with any other rifle. Including a rifle that got run over on accident (friend leaned my bargin big rifle on the bumper of a truck while he was putting stuff away at a range and the person in the truck backed up...gun was fine!). Olympic is a no-go in my book. Damn! well i guess that i would be pissed if that were my rifle too. seeing that i almost wish i had pulled my head out of my ass and waited till i had the money for the stag i wanted instead of setteling for my oly IT DEPENDS ON THE OLY, I JUST CANT TELL THE GOOD ONES FROM THE BAD- SO I STAY AWAY, MAYBY YOURS IS GOOD |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:00:05 PM EDT
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years of experience with all brands of ar's on this site.
Hundreds of documented horror stories not only with crap products but near non existent customer service after the sale. heed those warnings or don't. it's your money. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:05:01 PM EDT
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[span style='font-weight: bold;']Damn! well i guess that i would be pissed if that were my rifle too. seeing that i almost wish i had pulled my head out of my ass and waited till i had the money for the stag i wanted instead of setteling for my oly
How many rounds have you put through it and is it still reasonably accurate? If it has been working reliably so far, i wouldnt worry about it too much. Hindsight is 20-20, just keep a few spares on hand and keep in mind some of the negative feedback. For every horror story there are 2 or 3 more that never had any problems. Quality control may be suspect, and likely unacceptable for a duty rifle, but can operate just fine for a budget blaster if you have one of the good ones. I have a DPMS now myself that was an inexpensive rifle (DPMS is another brand that gets some negative feedback around here) , but it has performed great for my use If you are paranoid about it though ––- you can order a new lower from Del-Ton for $120 or so |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:13:34 PM EDT
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I don't know if they still do... But Olympic put out a lot of cast lowers that people broke very easily. +1 for this, and when I look at them used, I cant tell the difference- I dont want to get screwed again; so I avoid them DPMS and PWA also made cast lowers. This was not an Oly thing, it was a 1980s thing. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:15:32 PM EDT
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Well here is your first bad hearing about a Colt, my 1st had a finish like a 5th grader did the Anodizing and the second one had the barrel nut over torqued and almost gaulded the threads, but I saved them with a file and a lot of work.
My 5th grader took exception to that statement.
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:16:12 PM EDT
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS094.jpg Overtightening the buffer tube with the buffer retainer in place can result in that with any brand receiver. Not saying that's what you did, but seen it done.That's what this looks like, though. Yeah that's how I got it from Olympic... cast lower and everything! I wish I had known about ARFCOM back then!!! |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:17:12 PM EDT
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wrong place
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:17:44 PM EDT
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Quoted:
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Here's why I hate them... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS094.jpg This was my FIRST AR15. The WORST $600 I've EVER spent!!! http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS096.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/extxdpscamaro/GUNS/TOYS105.jpg They wanted to charge me to fix it...and pay for shipping both ways, it was BRAND NEW!!! I also would have to wait 4-6 months till I could have it back. No thanks. I bought a different lower (ASA) and it's still was a POS rifle. After a new BCG, Bolt, gas tube and firing pin, it FINALLY started running again. I sold it ! Since then I've had Bushmaster, RRA, Colt, CMMG(bargin bin), STAG and built a full Spikes rifle. I've NEVER had a problem with any other rifle. Including a rifle that got run over on accident (friend leaned my bargin big rifle on the bumper of a truck while he was putting stuff away at a range and the person in the truck backed up...gun was fine!). Olympic is a no-go in my book. Are you still friends? haha Actually, we're not he decided to become a liar, thief and con-artist. But I'm MUCH better now! |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:17:53 PM EDT
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WHOLE GUNS: only shoot brass, cant shoot WOLF––and dont say wolf sucks, I shoot fantastic at my 100yrd range with it;I DONT WANT TO BE LIMITED BY AMMO seem to rust faster on springs and LPK IMHO[/quote] The reason they say not to shoot wolf ammo is because of the laquer on the cases and with a lot of shooting with them the laquer comes up and molds onto the walls of your receiver and causes a lot of problems later on. I see no problem with them advising their clients against products that could do damage to them, in fact, more should so others can avoid those products as well. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:31:59 PM EDT
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Quoted:
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Damn! well i guess that i would be pissed if that were my rifle too. seeing that i almost wish i had pulled my head out of my ass and waited till i had the money for the stag i wanted instead of setteling for my oly
How many rounds have you put through it and is it still reasonably accurate? If it has been working reliably so far, i wouldnt worry about it too much. Hindsight is 20-20, just keep a few spares on hand and keep in mind some of the negative feedback. For every horror story there are 2 or 3 more that never had any problems. Quality control may be suspect, and likely unacceptable for a duty rifle, but can operate just fine for a budget blaster if you have one of the good ones. I have a DPMS now myself that was an inexpensive rifle (DPMS is another brand that gets some negative feedback around here) , but it has performed great for my use If you are paranoid about it though ––- you can order a new lower from Del-Ton for $120 or so i have only had it since the end of November, so i only have like 150ish rounds of 5.56 through it, but i also have like 300 rounds of .22lr through it with the conversion. i havent had any problems that the gun was to blame for, but its still early to tell for sure. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:37:45 PM EDT
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[ WHOLE GUNS: only shoot brass, cant shoot WOLF––and dont say wolf sucks, I shoot fantastic at my 100yrd range with it;I DONT WANT TO BE LIMITED BY AMMO seem to rust faster on springs and LPK IMHO The reason they say not to shoot wolf ammo is because of the laquer on the cases and with a lot of shooting with them the laquer comes up and molds onto the walls of your receiver and causes a lot of problems later on. I see no problem with them advising their clients against products that could do damage to them, in fact, more should so others can avoid those products as well. [/quote] ALL OF MY CURRENT ARs (13) HAVE EITHER COLT OR BUSHY BCG AND BARRELS. THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS OF WOLF; NO ISSUES |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:42:21 PM EDT
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Blasternank Quoted: WHOLE GUNS: only shoot brass, cant shoot WOLF––and dont say wolf sucks, I shoot fantastic at my 100yrd range with it;I DONT WANT TO BE LIMITED BY AMMO seem to rust faster on springs and LPK IMHO The reason they say not to shoot wolf ammo is because of the laquer on the cases and with a lot of shooting with them the laquer comes up and molds onto the walls of your receiver and causes a lot of problems later on. I see no problem with them advising their clients against products that could do damage to them, in fact, more should so others can avoid those products as well. ...Let's see... There is a word for the phenomenon you're describing... I've heard it before... Gosh, what is the phrase I'm looking for? Oh, I remember...  What you're spewing is a myth... Is a myth, was a myth, has been a myth... A chamber doesn't melt the lacquer. Oh, and that primer sealant that "flakes off and causes failures". M855 HAS IT TOO! Better not shoot M855 in any of your rifles... It is trash ammo prone to causing failures. In addition, just to put the cherry on top of this cake of crap... Wolf hasn't been using lacquer for YEARS. In addition... There is other ammo besides Wolf that uses lacquer. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 1:01:19 PM EDT
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WHOLE GUNS: only shoot brass, cant shoot WOLF––and dont say wolf sucks, I shoot fantastic at my 100yrd range with it;I DONT WANT TO BE LIMITED BY AMMO seem to rust faster on springs and LPK IMHO The reason they say not to shoot wolf ammo is because of the laquer on the cases and with a lot of shooting with them the laquer comes up and molds onto the walls of your receiver and causes a lot of problems later on. I see no problem with them advising their clients against products that could do damage to them, in fact, more should so others can avoid those products as well. ...Let's see... There is a word for the phenomenon you're describing... I've heard it before... Gosh, what is the phrase I'm looking for? Oh, I remember...
What you're spewing is a myth... Is a myth, was a myth, has been a myth... A chamber doesn't melt the lacquer. Oh, and that primer sealant that "flakes off and causes failures". M855 HAS IT TOO! Better not shoot M855 in any of your rifles... It is trash ammo prone to causing failures.
In addition, just to put the cherry on top of this cake of crap... Wolf hasn't been using lacquer for YEARS. In addition... There is other ammo besides Wolf that uses lacquer. OK,OK,OK.. THE OP WAS WHY "I" HATED OLY. I STATED MY REASONS. AND YES, THE WOLF, S&B, AND WHATEVER LACQUER ROUNDS THAT I USE HAVE JAMMED UP IN THE 3rd TO 5th ROUND FIRED IN OLY GUNS THAT I HAVE OWNED. I DONT KNOW OR CARE WHY; I JUST KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS. EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME, BUT THESE ARE MY EXPERIENCES AND I RESENT BEING CALLED A LIAR OR BS ARTIST. I FOUND A COMBINATION OF PARTS THAT WORKS WITH NO FAILURES AND NONE OF THOSE PARTS ARE OLY. SO TO THE OP - GET WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT I STATED MY PIECE AND WILL STAND BY IT TO ANY ONE, INCLUDING THE OWNER OF OLY- THE STUFF THAT I GOT FROM HIM WAS CRAP- AND I AM GONNA BE STAYING AWAY FROM IT. GFY: I ALMOST ALWAYS USE WOLF NOW- READ BACK TO FIND OUT IN WHAT.... |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 1:05:23 PM EDT
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OK,OK,OK.. THE OP WAS WHY "I" HATED OLY. I STATED MY REASONS. AND YES, THE WOLF, S&B, AND WHATEVER LACQUER ROUNDS THAT I USE HAVE JAMMED UP IN THE 3rd TO 5th ROUND FIRED IN OLY GUNS THAT I HAVE OWNED. I DONT KNOW OR CARE WHY; I JUST KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS. EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME, BUT THESE ARE MY EXPERIENCES AND I RESENT BEING CALLED A LIAR OR BS ARTIST. I FOUND A COMBINATION OF PARTS THAT WORKS WITH NO FAILURES AND NONE OF THOSE PARTS ARE OLY. SO TO THE OP - GET WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT I STATED MY PIECE AND WILL STAND BY IT TO ANY ONE, INCLUDING THE OWNER OF OLY- THE STUFF THAT I GOT FROM HIM WAS CRAP- AND I AM GONNA BE STAYING AWAY FROM IT. GFY Whoa nellie, I think he was talking to the guy that was saying stuff about the lacquer myth, not your assertions that your OLY's have been crap. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 1:10:09 PM EDT
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I AGREE WITH THE LAQUER THING. I KNOW THAT IT IS A HOTTLY CONTESTED ISSUE, BUT I HAVE ONLY HAD LUCK WITH LACQUER IN LATER COLTS AND BUSHY- EVERYTHING ELSE IS EITHER HIT OR MISS OR A TOTAL FAILURE. I AM NOT SO SPECIAL THAT MY EXPERIENCES ARE UNIQUE.
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Posted: 7/2/2009 2:12:43 PM EDT
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OK, I'll give it my best shot..... STRIPPED LOWERS: I has one @1995, got it new and built it on a Bushy kit, worked good. I droped it about a year later, shattered the lower. I got 2 for Y2K, was telling the clerk about the above incident, and 'clacked' the two together- one broke WHOLE GUNS: only shoot brass, cant shoot WOLF––and dont say wolf sucks, I shoot fantastic at my 100yrd range with it;I DONT WANT TO BE LIMITED BY AMMO seem to rust faster on springs and LPK IMHO Were you in the Anartica? |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 2:16:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: OK,OK,OK.. THE OP WAS WHY "I" HATED OLY. I STATED MY REASONS. AND YES, THE WOLF, S&B, AND WHATEVER LACQUER ROUNDS THAT I USE HAVE JAMMED UP IN THE 3rd TO 5th ROUND FIRED IN OLY GUNS THAT I HAVE OWNED. I DONT KNOW OR CARE WHY; I JUST KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS. EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME, BUT THESE ARE MY EXPERIENCES AND I RESENT BEING CALLED A LIAR OR BS ARTIST. I FOUND A COMBINATION OF PARTS THAT WORKS WITH NO FAILURES AND NONE OF THOSE PARTS ARE OLY. SO TO THE OP - GET WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT I STATED MY PIECE AND WILL STAND BY IT TO ANY ONE, INCLUDING THE OWNER OF OLY- THE STUFF THAT I GOT FROM HIM WAS CRAP- AND I AM GONNA BE STAYING AWAY FROM IT. GFY Whoa nellie, I think he was talking to the guy that was saying stuff about the lacquer myth, not your assertions that your OLY's have been crap. Exactly. The idea that Lacquer causes problems IS A MYTH. Steel, maybe, could cause a problem for some rifles. But it is not because of the lacquer. The lacquer does not melt in the chamber. It simply doesn't happen. The problem is likely the Oly. A good rifle with run steel just as well as brass. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 2:21:24 PM EDT
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Since found it for another thread anyway... Might as well share this.
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Oh, and here's a photo.  Yeah... I'd definitely get Olympic. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 2:43:49 PM EDT
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I had one that could not be sighted in. I replaced the front sight with the tallest one made, raised it to the highest elevation, lowered the rear all the way down, and it still shot high. Olympic wanted me to pay shipping both ways. I traded it in and went back to my old reliable Colts.
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Posted: 7/2/2009 2:48:34 PM EDT
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Back in the late 80's I built several AR's for friends, they had gotten their lowers and all other parts from OLY. I thought the barrels were good quality but the uppers and lowers were a loose fit and finish was sub standard. I sent a 700 REM. to them in 1993 for a rebarrel, they put a 9 twist on instead of a 7 or 8(max.) that I requested, this was strike 1, they cut an M-16 chamber and throat(much too long of a throat for a bolt gun) strike 2, then to top it all off I was quoted a price of 279.00 and then they charged me almost 400.00, strike three. I know I never should have paid higher price but they had my rifle and I wanted it back also the 'guy' who called me with the higher price gave me a load of BS about all the extra stuff they did to it. I will NEVER EVER NEVER buy so much as a gas tube roll pin from them.
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Posted: 7/2/2009 2:53:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Here is a "Cut & Paste" from an earlier post of mine:
"Sunday a group of us got together to shoot, a "friend of a friend" brought his new Olympic Arms AR. He complained that the safety wouldn't rotate to safe. He informed me that originally the safety DID work but after firing several magazines the safety would no longer go to safe. I offered to check it out, upon beginning to disassemble the carbine I found several LARGE steel shavings in the trigger group area. It appeared that they had came off of the hammer and trigger. The sear engagement on the hammer was POORLY cast and after machining had less than a 40% engagement with the trigger. The front of the trigger where it is machined to engage the hammer was also less than stellar! I changed the parts out to new Rock River trigger components and the problem was solved, it sure appears that Olympic has a very lax QA/QC." Now , that being said I will state I had two Olympic Arms Receivers converted to full auto back in 1985 (ONLY because they were in stock). Other than the infamous Olympic Arms mis-drilled safety detent hole (where the safety/selector doesn't point straight up) they worked fine. But Olympic Arms produces way too much junk! When I can get a CMMG for around the same price it's no contest! PursuitSS |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:50:05 PM EDT
[#44]
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OK, I'll give it my best shot..... STRIPPED LOWERS: I has one @1995, got it new and built it on a Bushy kit, worked good. I droped it about a year later, shattered the lower. I got 2 for Y2K, was telling the clerk about the above incident, and 'clacked' the two together- one broke WHOLE GUNS: only shoot brass, cant shoot WOLF––and dont say wolf sucks, I shoot fantastic at my 100yrd range with it;I DONT WANT TO BE LIMITED BY AMMO seem to rust faster on springs and LPK IMHO Were you in the Anartica? IT SAYS FLA |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:51:37 PM EDT
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OK,OK,OK.. THE OP WAS WHY "I" HATED OLY. I STATED MY REASONS. AND YES, THE WOLF, S&B, AND WHATEVER LACQUER ROUNDS THAT I USE HAVE JAMMED UP IN THE 3rd TO 5th ROUND FIRED IN OLY GUNS THAT I HAVE OWNED. I DONT KNOW OR CARE WHY; I JUST KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS. EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME, BUT THESE ARE MY EXPERIENCES AND I RESENT BEING CALLED A LIAR OR BS ARTIST. I FOUND A COMBINATION OF PARTS THAT WORKS WITH NO FAILURES AND NONE OF THOSE PARTS ARE OLY. SO TO THE OP - GET WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT I STATED MY PIECE AND WILL STAND BY IT TO ANY ONE, INCLUDING THE OWNER OF OLY- THE STUFF THAT I GOT FROM HIM WAS CRAP- AND I AM GONNA BE STAYING AWAY FROM IT. GFY Whoa nellie, I think he was talking to the guy that was saying stuff about the lacquer myth, not your assertions that your OLY's have been crap. Exactly. The idea that Lacquer causes problems IS A MYTH. ALL I KNOW IS NO WOLF IN OLY; I DON'T LIKE THAT Steel, maybe, could cause a problem for some rifles.NOT COLT /NOT BUSHY But it is not because of the lacquer. The lacquer does not melt in the chamber. THEN WHAT IN THE HECK IS THAT FLAKEY SHIT ON THE BRUSH?It simply doesn't happen. The problem is likely the Oly THIS I KNOW. A good rifle with run steel just as well as brass. A GOOD RIFLE DOES NOT EQUAL OLY; UNLESS YOU LIKE BUYING $500.00 CASES OF AMMO AND MAKING REPAIRS ON A BRAND NEW GUN... MY BUILDS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING: NOTHING FROM ANYONE WHO HAS PISSED ME OFF AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS NEVER FAILED ME. SOME OLY RECIEVERS THAT I BOUGHT BROKE, THAT PISSED ME OFF- THERE DONE. SOME NON COLT/BUSHY BARRELS HAVE FAILED ME- THERE DONE. NO COLT/BUSHY BARREL HAS FAILED ME- THERE IN!! |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:56:58 PM EDT
[#46]
SEE ABOVE...EDIT
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Posted: 7/2/2009 5:55:48 PM EDT
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I haven't owned an Olly, but I've fondled plenty of them at gun shows that were sloppy loose and rattly HAHAHAHAH I have to call bullshit there. Oly has always built their guns tight. Too tight for duty work. Ask anyone who has ever owned one. They are TIGHT. Upper to lower, tight. Magwell, tight. Oly made both cast and forged lowers. The forged ones are fine. The cast ones may be fine but I prefer forged. Why? Not sure. At least I admit that I have an Irrational preference. Regarding the poster who said he couldn't tell the cast from the forged. Here's a link for your future reference: http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=42 psst. I've got a secret for you. You know all those machined from billet lowers. Well, nobody says whether the billet was forged or cast. Hmm. Olys were always cheap. They were also always accurate, very accurate for the money. My preban A1 had their "standard" barrel. It was a stainless, button rifled barrel that was to this day, the most accurate AR I've ever owned. Olys were NOT consistent. You could get a good one, or a bad one. The bad ones were still accurate, but they were not reliable. (I think their bbls were consistently good) Olys also were not mil spec. Thats how they got them tight, and its also how they got them to be so accurate for a reasonable amount of $. I'm not saying its smart, I'm saying its just how they did it. Again, good for accuracy per $, bad for reliability. The the Olympic Arms "armory" (actually more like a garage) burned down. I'm told that after the fire, a lot of records were lost. I'm also told (this is specualation) that they invested in CNC equipment so post fire stuff is more consistent. Would I buy an Oly upper to use in CMP rifle matches. Absolutely. Would I buy an Oly upper as a SHTF gun. Not on your life. Re lowers. I'd use a forged Oly lower for anything. The lower on an AR doesn't really expeerience a whole heck of a lot of stress, so as long as its dimensionallty accurate, its fine. Dimensional accuracy reveals itself right in the beginning. So you know you're good or not right up front. Don |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 6:02:00 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OK,OK,OK.. THE OP WAS WHY "I" HATED OLY. I STATED MY REASONS. AND YES, THE WOLF, S&B, AND WHATEVER LACQUER ROUNDS THAT I USE HAVE JAMMED UP IN THE 3rd TO 5th ROUND FIRED IN OLY GUNS THAT I HAVE OWNED. I DONT KNOW OR CARE WHY; I JUST KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS. EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME, BUT THESE ARE MY EXPERIENCES AND I RESENT BEING CALLED A LIAR OR BS ARTIST. I FOUND A COMBINATION OF PARTS THAT WORKS WITH NO FAILURES AND NONE OF THOSE PARTS ARE OLY. SO TO THE OP - GET WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT I STATED MY PIECE AND WILL STAND BY IT TO ANY ONE, INCLUDING THE OWNER OF OLY- THE STUFF THAT I GOT FROM HIM WAS CRAP- AND I AM GONNA BE STAYING AWAY FROM IT. GFY Whoa nellie, I think he was talking to the guy that was saying stuff about the lacquer myth, not your assertions that your OLY's have been crap. Exactly. The idea that Lacquer causes problems IS A MYTH. ALL I KNOW IS NO WOLF IN OLY; I DON'T LIKE THAT Steel, maybe, could cause a problem for some rifles.NOT COLT /NOT BUSHY But it is not because of the lacquer. The lacquer does not melt in the chamber. THEN WHAT IN THE HECK IS THAT FLAKEY SHIT ON THE BRUSH?It simply doesn't happen. The problem is likely the Oly THIS I KNOW. A good rifle with run steel just as well as brass. A GOOD RIFLE DOES NOT EQUAL OLY; UNLESS YOU LIKE BUYING $500.00 CASES OF AMMO AND MAKING REPAIRS ON A BRAND NEW GUN... MY BUILDS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING: NOTHING FROM ANYONE WHO HAS PISSED ME OFF AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS NEVER FAILED ME. SOME OLY RECIEVERS THAT I BOUGHT BROKE, THAT PISSED ME OFF- THERE DONE. SOME NON COLT/BUSHY BARRELS HAVE FAILED ME- THERE DONE. NO COLT/BUSHY BARREL HAS FAILED ME- THERE IN!! STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS YOU IDIOT!!!!... I'M NOT EVEN DISAGREEING WITH YOU!!!! I HATE OLY JUST AS MUCH AS YOU DO!!!!! THEY'RE PIECES OF SHIT!!!! I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FLAKEY SHIT ON THE BRUSH IS, BUT IT ISN'T LACQUER!!!! I DON'T LIKE A RIFLE THAT WON'T SHOOT STEEL EITHER!!!! YOU NEED TO WORK ON YOUR READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS!!!! AND TURN OFF CAPS LOCK!!!!! |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 6:15:29 PM EDT
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If anybody is still reading this thread after the above posts, I have had considerable experience with an Oly lower. It is a registered reciever M16 I won in a raffle about seven years ago and is an older Oly product with the old "stop sign" trademark on it. I never had any trouble whatsoever with this lower, and now use it with a 9mm upper and have put literally thousands of rounds through it. I have no idea how many rounds it fired before I got it, but my guess is quite a few.
This is my only experience with their products - no complaints, no breakage, no problems. Thousands of rounds, full auto. |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 6:38:26 PM EDT
[#50]
Wow! Unfortunately Olympic is about all I see at the gunshows in WA state, (go figure) Their stuff reminds me of some cheap chinese knockoff airsoft crap.
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