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Posted: 10/6/2007 5:48:39 PM EDT

Any thoughts or info on the LMT Defender? I'm looking at one but I can't find much info on it.

Posted: 10/6/2007 5:52:20 PM EDT

[#1]

LMT RULES!!!!!

www.lewismachine.net

Posted: 10/6/2007 6:52:06 PM EDT

[#2]

^ i'll agree to that.

some folks will tell you they're purple though.

Posted: 10/6/2007 6:53:48 PM EDT

[#3]

LMT does rock, 2nd only to Colt. Even the purple ones.

Posted: 10/6/2007 7:22:01 PM EDT

[#4]

My first and only AR is a Defender, love her to death. You'll be very satisfied with one should you get it. And yes, they are ever so slightly purple, a friend has dubbed mine the purple people eater. But that is the only negative I can come up with, assuming that thats a negative and you don't like purple.

This is best pic I have of "purple"

Posted: 10/6/2007 7:29:21 PM EDT

[#5]

Mine are both LMT. It's cool even if just to have the name on it. Read this.

Lower Receiver FAQ Link

Posted: 10/7/2007 6:00:41 AM EDT

[#6]

I HAVE A FEW LMT LOWERS THAT HAVE BEEN RUN VERY HARD FOR YEARS WITH NO PROBLEMS. WE'VE SOLD AT LEAST 50X OF THEM AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A SINGLE PURPLE ONE COME THROUGH. BUT, IF I DID, I'D SEND IT BACK, NOT SELL IT.

THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THE LMT LOWER:

BETTER PISTOL GRIP - THEY FORMERLY CAME WITH A TANGO DOWN. NOW, THEY COME WITH AN ERGO. WHILE I PREFER MAGPUL AND SIERRA PRECISION FOR MY OWN USE, THE PISTOL GRIPS LMT USES ARE FAR BETTER THAN THE STANDARD A2.

UNIQUE SIX POSITION MIL-SPEC DIAMETER STOCK TUBE, WITH MULTIPLE DRAIN HOLES - JUST IN CASE YOU PLAN ON SWIMMING WITH YOUR GUN.

THE OPTION OF THE SUPERB LMT SOPMOD STOCK.

MIL-SPEC DIAMETER FIRE CONTROL PINS.

EXCELLENT BLACK ANODIZING.

VERY NICE, EVEN DEPTH ROLL MARKS, WITH NO SNAKES, DEER, ETC., JUST "LMT" IN A TIDY OVAL.

BEFORE YOU INQUIRE, NO, WE DO NOT SELL THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ

Posted: 10/7/2007 7:48:29 AM EDT

[#7]

I have a complete LMT rifle. Upper and lower match exactly (gray-black), though I bought them seperately.

A while ago there was a thread on what someone should buy to most match the M4. At the time I was advocating a complete 6920/6921, despite the FCG pin size difference. I would now fully recommend an LMT lower, and I am very happy with the LMT upper, despite the questionability of a true 5.56x45mm NATO chamber.

I run guns hard with infrequent cleaning intervals (Slip 2000 is a god-send), and the LMT outruns most M4's I have used.

Edit to add color.

Posted: 10/7/2007 8:35:01 AM EDT

[#8]

I've got 3 of them. Great weapons!

Posted: 10/7/2007 9:28:45 AM EDT

[#9]

Waiting to be born. The purple may be a camera issue. Mine is as jet black as can be but the pic says otherwise. At some point I think I'm going to let you guy's tell me what I want on the upper. My other AR is an Armalite knockoff. This weapon will have no purpose other than killing paper out to 300 yards.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/2nd-Chance/LMTDefender2000.jpg

Posted: 10/7/2007 10:32:53 AM EDT

[#10]

I have both an LMT lower and upper (also bought separately) and both are black, not purple. I think they're top-notch and definitely satisfied with my purchase.

Posted: 10/7/2007 11:13:57 AM EDT

[#11]

I'm planning on another 14.5" and a 10.5", wouldn't care if they're purple or not, I heart LMT.

Posted: 10/7/2007 1:33:33 PM EDT

[#12]

LMT Defender lowers are GTG - the one's with 2 stage triggers are real nice !

Posted: 10/7/2007 2:34:07 PM EDT

[#13]

Good stuff all the way. Its more money, but consider the MRP. With 5.56, 6.8 and .204 barrels available, and a drop in piston barrel on the way, MRP's become more and more modular each year!

Posted: 10/7/2007 3:01:43 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
despite the questionability of a true 5.56x45mm NATO chamber.

HUH?

Posted: 10/7/2007 3:05:04 PM EDT

[#15]

I have 2 LMT defenders. Love them both. I've owned Colt and Bushie also. LMT is the bee's knees.

Posted: 10/7/2007 3:25:45 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
LMT RULES!!!!!

+1! Actually, +4, that's how many I have so far and they are all great.

Posted: 10/7/2007 3:40:17 PM EDT

[#17]

Doesen't look purple to me.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/sobegreen7/M4request.jpg

Not even my dad's feet. LMT is good to go.

Posted: 10/7/2007 4:01:52 PM EDT

[#18]

I will keep this rifle till the day I die

Posted: 10/7/2007 4:17:30 PM EDT

[#19]

Posted: 10/7/2007 6:46:49 PM EDT

[#20]

Thanks for the encouraging remarks. I guess I'll pick mine up and it doesn't sound like I'll be disappointed!

Posted: 10/8/2007 10:29:03 AM EDT

[#21]

My LMT Defender 2000, I bought the upper and lower separately, they sell them now as a complete rifle but you save more buying separately

I just upgraded mine with KAC M4 RAS rails, VFG and 300m BUIS, LMT M16 BCG, Magpul MIAD grip, MAGPUL CTR stock, LaRue QD mount and EOTech.

I've also got two Colts, I'm very satisfied with my LMT, you won't get disappointed.

Posted: 10/8/2007 11:43:52 AM EDT

[#22]

My M4gery is built from a Defender 2000. Runs like a top and looks good too. Also have a 16" RECON that is built on an LMT lower. Currently building a MK18 clone that will have both an LMT upper and lower. Can't go wrong with LMT!

Posted: 10/8/2007 12:29:27 PM EDT

[#23]

I have a factory LMT rifle from Pete at Legal Transfers.

My rifle is a flat black - matching finish .. and as someone else pointed out;

No Deer
No Venomous Snakes
No Ponys

I have owned a Colt 6290 and the LMT trumps it quality wise..

No oversized fire control pins or shaved bolt carriers on my LMT. The last Colt 6290 I held (NIB) had so much slop in the receiver fit you could slide in a a credit card.

Posted: 10/8/2007 12:34:59 PM EDT

[#24]

people who don't understand what it means to own a high quality item, default to the fit/finish argument to combat logic...

my LMT is purple

my colt had scratches

i have an LMT defender 2000 lower that i used on a 6.8 SPC SPRish build... it looks "dark navy blue" in pictures... but pitch black in normal lighting...

Posted: 10/8/2007 6:16:53 PM EDT

[#25]

I bought an LMT lower to go under my MRP. Just seemed like the right thing to do.

IPSC_GUY
SIERRA II ALPHA

Posted: 10/8/2007 9:35:21 PM EDT

[#26]

I have a Defender 2000, and I'll never part with it.

Hard to go wrong with LMT.

Posted: 10/8/2007 10:33:17 PM EDT

[#27]

You down with LMT? Yeah you know me.

ETA: Yup, the lower is purple.

Posted: 10/8/2007 11:29:01 PM EDT

[#28]

Couldn't be happier with mine. Both my upper and lower are BLACK, not even a hint of purple. 100% reliable so far and quite accurate.

Posted: 10/8/2007 11:46:14 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
despite the questionability of a true 5.56x45mm NATO chamber.

HUH?

Was informed by Dean Caputo that all chambers that he has seen, other than Colt barrels, have some slight deviance from the true 5.56mm NATO chamber. Ned Christiansen's 5.56mm chamber reamer cuts exact 5.56mm chambers. The chamber reamer was used to fix an LMT MRP barrel as reported by Mike Heuser.

I am, however, not bothered by that. My LMT merrily chews through M855 fed in large quantities, so issues with chamber fouling or constrictive throat are not an issue.

I assume that the uppers contracted to the military meet all MILSPEC requirements, but I cannot verify.

Thus- LMT 5.56x45mm NATO chamber is questionable but not actionable in civilian sales.

Posted: 10/9/2007 3:42:30 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
despite the questionability of a true 5.56x45mm NATO chamber.

HUH?

Was informed by Dean Caputo that all chambers that he has seen, other than Colt barrels, have some slight deviance from the true 5.56mm NATO chamber. Ned Christiansen's 5.56mm chamber reamer cuts exact 5.56mm chambers. The chamber reamer was used to fix an LMT MRP barrel as reported by Mike Heuser.

I am, however, not bothered by that. My LMT merrily chews through M855 fed in large quantities, so issues with chamber fouling or constrictive throat are not an issue.

I assume that the uppers contracted to the military meet all MILSPEC requirements, but I cannot verify.

Thus- LMT 5.56x45mm NATO chamber is questionable but not actionable in civilian sales.

interesting... so the I am going to assume that the chamber is tighter than the NATO spec? which would account for the increased accuracy of LMT barrels over colt...