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Posted: 2/22/2006 4:53:39 PM EDT
I will be buying one of these this week or next. Which one would you get and why?
Colt MT6700C Match Target Competition H-Bar http://www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/MTCompHBAR.asp Bushmaster DCM Competition Rifle PCWA2S 20DCM8 http://bushmasterfirearms.com/shopping/dcm/pcwa2s20dcm8.asp I'm leaning toward the Colt. I have shot one and loved it, very accurate, which is what I'm after. This is my first post, so sorry for anything that might be wrong or out of place. |
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If you've got money to blow, get the Colt. If you're like the rest of us, who dont' have money to blow, get the Bushmaster.
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You could generate less heat by posting a religious cartoon than asking that question here.
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Get the Bushmaster so the hoards of Colt-haters don't maul you to death with their Pony hate.
[serously, if you have $150-$200 more, get the Colt - it's better) |
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Why are you buying neutered rifles? Does NC have some kind of AWB I don't know about?
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A Colt HBAR then a Bushmaster M-4gery. Then a Bushmaster Match then a Colt M-4. Then an RRA.
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+1 |
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I had a Bushy DCM and it was a great rifle. EXREMELY accurate. The only mediocre thing about it is the trigger. With that being said look at the RRA National Match. Better than the Bushy and Colt and cheaper. They win matches right out of the box. Or for a little more but still less than the other two you can get White Oak Armament to tune the RRA National Match trigger and it's even better yet. Plus the RRA isn't neutered
www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR1285X&storeid=1&image=06nma24.gif&CFID=9831386&CFTOKEN=72593549 |
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Functionally, the two rifles are identical. However, the Colt manufactured rifles do go through slightly more quality control on a few components - such as MP testing every barrel and bolt, whereas Bushmaster tests on a more random basis. I've never heard of any problems with Bushmaster's barrels or bolts, but some people really like the peice of mind. There are other small subtle differences too, but for all practical puposes, most people would consider the rifles functionally identical Personally, I don't see the point in paying more for a sexy brand name, but I do understand that people do (or for the piece of mind). At the SAME PRICE, I would pick the Colt every time. But if the price difference is more than $50 I'd take the Bushmaster |
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They probably mean that it doesn’t have a flash hider or a bayonet lug. And that might all be stuff you don’t want on a rifle. It just depends on what you are using it for. These are match rifles he’s looking at, not zombie killing rifles. I have no idea which is best for your purposes. It looks like the Bushmaster comes with a lot of extras that you might, or might not, want and I don’t know if the Colt has any of that stuff or not. I don’t see anything about the Colt barrel being free floating for example. |
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Take off your pants and spread your legs while I go get the clippers.... Okay do you get the point now? Nathan |
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Good one LeeF... If I had the cash to spend, without a doubt I would buy the COLT... If I was on a budget, the Bushmaster... If I was deaf, dumb and blind, a RRA... |
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The 6700c has a compensator, but I don't know if it has a bayonet lug or not. How many of you would actually use that? I want a gun, not a knife. I mainly want it for target shooting and killing varmints, plus I want good resale value.
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What he said.... But seriously... First, welcome to the site. Good choices on both, if you are wanting a competitive rifle. That being said, the RRA is a better out of the box than either, AND cheaper. Just make sure that the rifle suits it's task. That is, that you're really looking for a competition rifle. You should check out the Equipment Exchange here on this board. Just click on the far right tab that you see at the top of the page. You'll get a MUCH better deal than retail. Example: Legal-Transfers This happens to be a different model than the one you've spec'd out here, but check out his web-site. Pretty good prices. There are many other RRA dealers that advertise in the EE. Do yourself a favor and save money while building a relationship with a vendor that supports this site. Good luck. |
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Yes, I do agree about the trigger. I don't want a staged trigger. That's one of the things about the Bushmaster I don't like. The RRA seems to cost about the same from what I've seen on Google. I'm seeing right at around $1000.00? Info is not nearly as easy to find for these as the Colt or Bushmaster.
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Colt now Colt later, it costs more now and sells for more later. I can't tell you how many cheap bushmasters I've come accross in the last few weeks. If they had been Colt they would have been snapped up so much quicker.
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I'd shoot a gun with a compensator before even considering buying one. Damn things are LOUD, even when doubled-up with plugs and muffs. IMHO they're also completely unnecessary on a .223 unless you are a top-level 3 gun competitor. |
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jblmk3.... I just sent you an email about a rifle I've got just like the one that sylwesterski bought. |
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HERE WE GO AGAIN , GET ME AN UMBRELLA!!!
<-------THOSE GUYS ARE COMMING <------------------SO IM GOING TO START DOING THIS |
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i'd get the snake to save some $$$s and get a cooler logo
but colt is good too... |
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As you can tell by his subsequent replies, he doesn't really know what he wants. jblmk, I would suggest hanging around the forum and reading some more before you make your decision. I think if you buy either of the rifles you posted links to you're going to wind up wanting something different later. |
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Welcome jblmk!
You came to the right place for everything AR15, alright. I'd recommend the Colt product - but not the one you listed. You can get a much more valuable model and in the long run likely be more satisfaction Look at the LE series (This dealer has them - and the Bushmaster for that matter) best bet is to read around this site for a few hours and look at what long time AR15 enthusiasts are doing and why. You can learn more here about the rifle and its endless configurations and makes, than 1,000 days of gunstore and Google searches and since this is the most abused topic of all time on the boards...I will accommodate chakarji with this.....
or this.... enjoy your new AR15, whatever model/make you choose!! |
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To get an idea on what the difference in cost is I looked at guns america web site. They have a 6700C Colt for 1075 and a Bushmaster like you are looking at for 1244, or 1099(two different dealers). Why does everyone think that Colts are that much more money?? I bought a Colt a couple of years ago and paid way less than what I have seen the same guns listed for on numerous web sites. Find a dealer who won't put it to you. Then buy what you want. I wanted a Colt and found a couple of dealer who were fair priced and bought one. Now looking for a Bushmaster Varminter and there is 150 bucks difference between three local dealers. Do some checking around. Sometimes a small dealer who orders all his stuff in is better than a dealer with large overhead but a pile of guns
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Welcome aboard jblmk, your best bet is to just read all the posts you can about the different brand and then weed through the bullshit and make your own mind up because if you let the folks here lead you to what to buy you will probably end up with what you were NOT looking for. I understand you want a target rifle, if you want to shoot CMP then the bigger brands all make CMP compliant rifles that are nice. As for triggers I have a RRA NM two stage and love it, but you will still get 10 answers from every 10 people that reply here. Good luck.
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SCREAM IT FROM THE MOUNTAIN TOPS, BROTHER! |
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+1 on the Bushmaster DCM rifle. DCM no longer has any. Mine drove tacks. The trigger was lackluster. The RRA NM rifle is an exceptional value. With that being said, you can build your own, and save about $300-$400. Buy a top notch barrel: Kreiger, Pacnor, Douglas. |
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I can't find any information about the compensator on this gun. Do you guys know if it's removable/changeable or not?
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