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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:04:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Dude, go home. Obviously you don't know shit.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:06:01 PM EDT
[#2]
typical response of an AR user
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:06:36 PM EDT
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I thought it was just me as I was reading that crap...."typical AR owner".....(post number 11, I would have never figured). |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:12:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:12:10 PM EDT
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Typical post of those who can't pony up enough cash for anything nicer than a Hesse AR:
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:15:45 PM EDT
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dude, i may say that AR are a horrible combat weapon.; never said i didnt own one or even several. I would never even own a hesse weapon. Another thing, i own one Knight carb and a Colt m4 SBR.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:17:44 PM EDT
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Arsenal, I am an AK guy. I love AKs. And from this AK owner I just wanted to say Go F_ck Yourself you stupid Troll.
Why would you come over to the AR side just to start shit.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:17:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Post a pic with them in your lap flipping us off and then I'll believe you. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:18:43 PM EDT
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You own a KAC and a Colt and you call the reliability horrible?
Have you considered reading the manuals and perhaps cleaning them? Sounds like an operator problem. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:19:44 PM EDT
[#10]
And how many AR's have you worn down?
The AK, just like your evaluation, STINKS!!! The AK is the weapon of chice for arab terrorists that shoot from the hip, communist armies that got their asses kicked, and dorks that don't wanna pay for a real rifle.  |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:19:54 PM EDT
[#11]
+1 Exactly! Oh yeah, AIRSOFT DOESN"T COUNT!!!  PS: I have both so here is my pic to you 
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:21:24 PM EDT
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god you guys are so harsh , just wanted to start a little ar vs ak fun. Even i will pony up when someone makes a true statement about an AK flaw. lighten up for christ sakes
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:22:50 PM EDT
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Hmmm? So lets' see you own two of the most expensive ARs out there but will readily shit on their reputations of reliability, durability, and the cleaning process of an AR. Yep you guys called this one right.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:24:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Let me guess you just got an Arsenal and think it's the cats ass right? |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:26:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Yes they are good weapons given the ideal environment. However ,the desert is not one of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Urban environment north of the equator ;id say the AR is pretty decently reliable.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:28:14 PM EDT
[#16]
You stick your ass in a forum dedicated to people who LOVE their AR rifles and you take a dump... you call that a little fun? |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:28:16 PM EDT
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Arsenal,
I agree 100% with your opinion. Thing is. I don't own a AK.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:28:20 PM EDT
[#18]
no thats the name the board op gave me when i emailed him my password and id didnt work :*
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:29:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:29:40 PM EDT
[#20]
seem to be working fine for many soldiers in the desert. US, IDF, Aussies, just to name a few. Some members of this board are soldiers currently over there, and will readily tell you that the M16 and M4s are working just fine. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:31:11 PM EDT
[#21]
thanks man, you must have served time in the middle east or nam. Or did a burnout session at the range
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:33:18 PM EDT
[#22]
yeah they work fine because they are being cleaned 5 or more times a day . You ever been jumped while cleaning your weapon? not fun
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:34:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Tell us what happened when you were. 
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:35:46 PM EDT
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Dude your a loser. I am an ak owner and I think its a better gun. But I dont come to the ar side just to talk trash about thier guns. Your a loser and I wish you would lose your password. Someone ban his ass from the sight please
 
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:36:36 PM EDT
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Five times a day, that'd be a heck of a lot of rounds! |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:37:23 PM EDT
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I have shotguns that are more accurate at 70 yards. THAT is a true statement of an AK flaw, now pony up biotch. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:37:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Still waiting on your pics Arsenal...
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:37:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Future prediction is this thread will be locked or Arsenal will be sent to "timeout" |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:38:22 PM EDT
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i never had mine fail to fire, only because i spent time cleaning it constantly and with a condom over the muzzel most of the day. many did have problems . A buddy of mine had his shell get stuck in the chamber once in south america do to the humidity( that was a new one for me) .
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:39:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:40:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Ok, if so far anyone has made it past the fact that your full of shit, you just said "hey look at me I'm a fuckwit"  Can I use your statement as a sigline? |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:40:53 PM EDT
[#33]
i time myself , this was never meant to get this heated.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:41:14 PM EDT
[#34]
Its funny how thousands of U.S. soldiers trust their lives to their rifles. That should tell you something right their.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:41:38 PM EDT
[#35]
Ok clean_cut. Say hi to the other banned trolls on the way out the door. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:41:56 PM EDT
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Mods need tack the Subject line on this thread: WARNING! Reading this thread will cause a loss in IQ.
This is the most retarded, ill informed thread of the week. Arsenal, why don't you email the British SAS with your |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:42:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Translation: I never thought you guys would get mad when I shit in your Corn Flakes. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:43:19 PM EDT
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I've owned both.
Durability - A 20" issue weapon's (M16A2 or A4) lower will outlast the most durable AK lower (stamped), likely by a large margin. Rebarreling is much, much easier than the AR when you finally shoot the barrel out. The AR has much fewer parts to rust than the AK. Reliability -- The AK will most likely shoot more rounds without cleaning without a malfunction, given that it is of good quality and the mags are good. However, it doesn't matter in a firefight that the AK can shoot 20k rounds without cleaning and the AR only 10k. (use whatever numbers you want, because whatever the number is, it's a shitload more than you'd ever shoot without cleaning) Accuracy -- Don't even think of calling the accuracy of the AK "fair to good", when you're only calling the accuracy of the AR "great". AK sights suck ass, plain and simple, and you have very few options for decent optics (Kobra is likely the way to go, unless you want to put an Aimpoint over the gas tube) Recoil -- If your AK kicks too much, slap a 74 brake on it. Duh. Lastly, dont forget Ergonomics! Mag changes! Safties! Foregrips, oh my! All that being said, the 7.62x39 is my favorite caliber, period. I love that round. I like AK's, too, and I'd take one into combat if I had to. However, only hits count, and the AR makes more of them in less time and at longer ranges. I used to own an AK, now I own an AR(s). The end. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:43:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:43:46 PM EDT
[#40]
Care to post your deedeetwofourteen? |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:43:57 PM EDT
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+1 on the . I think my Arsenal Sam-7 is a damn good rifle and will never part with it. That being said I have no desire for more than one AK unless I was to get a krink. I decided long ago that AR's are just a superior platform overall. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:44:09 PM EDT
[#42]
Mommy must have left the computer on.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:45:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Woo Hoo. I've just happen to have a full beer and a bowl of pop corn! I'm set.
Let me add a log to the fire. AR = True Blue American made! As wholesome as grandma, apple pie and the girl next door. AK = Commie made crap. Made to kill grandma and the girl next door. It's the enemy's weapon. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:47:04 PM EDT
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I own 2 ARs. A Colt SBR upper on a MEGA lower and an Olympic Arms. After thousands of rounds I have never had one jam once. Of course, I properly maintain my weapons. My Olympic is used extensively around the hunting lease as a ranch rifle and sees lots of abuse, dirt, rain, etc. Never jams.
I don't know why people think that the AR is an unreliable weapon. As long as they are properly maintained they are great. Field maintaince is very easy. Probably takes about 2 minutes so its not really an issue. Also, they are deadly accurate. Both of my rifles shoot sub MOA given the proper ammo. Given relatively cheap ammo they shoot around MOA to about 1.5 MOA. AKs may be able to take more abuse and still function but most are fairly inaccurate. Actually, anytime someone mentions the pros of AK reliablity is the only thing you hear about. They never mention price but I'm sure that is a big factor on why many people (and countries) have them instead of the more refined ARs and other such rifles. I own an Arsenal AK and it is a fine weapon but in battle conditions I would take the AR any day. Properly maintained it is a reliable weapon and very versitile. You can use the same weapon for CQB and reliably taking out targets at 300+ yards. Just my 2 cents. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:47:20 PM EDT
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Yeah, that Boa Constrictor War was a real bitch. I still have flashbacks of the battle of Macho Grande. I doubt I will ever be over Macho Grande........ |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:48:39 PM EDT
[#46]
I've abused my AR, and I know that it will work anytime that I will. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:50:35 PM EDT
[#47]
1) Because someone else told them it was and it is easier to blindly believe someone else than think for yourself. 2) Because they bought a Hesse and think it is representative. 3) Because they bought a frankengun built from a nessard kit and think it is representative. 4) Because they are so dumb they lube it with asphalt sealant thinking it is a substitute for Break-Free. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:53:56 PM EDT
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Dude, I'm a wood and iron guy myself, don't have an AR yet, but even I know AR's aren't terrible in the reliability department - you might not be able to ABUSE them like an AK but that doesn't make them non durable. Hey let me guess = you also think you can make an AR full auto by filing down the firing pin and that the 5.56NATO was made for wounding, right? 
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Posted: 10/1/2005 4:59:10 PM EDT
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Near as I can figure this relates to a detailed cleaning where you take everything apart and try to remove 99.99999% of the carbon. I've only done a 99% cleaning once or twice. I'm a lazy slob I guess. Usually run a couple patches down the bore, spray the BCG with break free and wipe it down, wipe down the inside of the receiver and call myself done. Takes maybe 5 minutes. ETA: My beer is half gone! Where is the holy war? This is AR vs AK! You guys are acting like this is an old topic that has been beat to death. |
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Posted: 10/1/2005 5:02:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Ok ya'll SHUT UP, he's a troll and he's quit responding, stop giving him ammo and let the thread die.
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