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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:20:48 PM EDT
[#1]
My vote is for the superlite.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:20:56 PM EDT
[#2]
middy!
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:22:52 PM EDT
[#3]
1:1...
That's about where I'm at too... Still undecided. |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:23:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Middy.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:25:20 PM EDT
[#5]
Lightweight A3 CAR
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:32:04 PM EDT
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The best answer here in ARFCOM is always get both.
 If you would like to have a middy then get it first, it will be slightly heavier than the CAR. I used to have a LW but if I have to get one now, I'll get a middy. Then the superlight next. |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:35:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Lightweight. With either a flat-top or an A1 upper.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:46:53 PM EDT
[#8]
My recommendation:
An A1 upper (better iron sights) and a turned down midlength. |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:53:36 PM EDT
[#9]
LW A1
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Posted: 9/4/2005 5:53:37 PM EDT
[#10]
+ eleventy million |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 6:04:14 PM EDT
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Super Light all the way.
Don't underestimate the weight savings. Lighter IS better - period. 16" is fine for any imaginable use (civilian). People buy HBARs, then load them up with all sorts of crap. Then they hold a superlight and say "WTF"...and begin to rethink their setups..... Skip all the regrets, wrong purchases, trial and error, and time wasted and go straight to superlight. BTW, the term "superlight" is only used cause HBARs dominate the market. HBARs are a commercial invention created by companies that want to save money by not having to machine barrel blanks all the way down to the correct profile. Superlight is the original AR profile and worked just fine for the military. Unless you need to bayonet someone (get govt profile), or shoot 300+ rounds non stop full auto (as is with the M4A1 profile) then "pencil" barrel will be perfect. |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 6:16:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/4/2005 7:31:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Superlight A1 or A2.
You did say KISS, right? 
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Posted: 9/4/2005 7:37:49 PM EDT
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I completely agree, this would be an awesome no frills lightweight rifle. Shal1 |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 7:41:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Middy Gov't profile.
Works great and you have more real estate to grab onto. Also a little smoother operating; especially so with a 9mm buffer in a collapsible stock. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 7:43:45 PM EDT
[#16]
I'd throw a Comp ACOG on there, too, but that's me.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 7:47:34 PM EDT
[#17]
midlength
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Posted: 9/4/2005 7:56:25 PM EDT
[#18]
CAR pencil barrel with A1 or A2 sights.
Doesn't get any more KISS than that. Plus you could always put an ACOG on it. |
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Posted: 9/4/2005 8:21:53 PM EDT
[#20]
middy. its my next one.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 8:34:27 PM EDT
[#21]
Superlight.
Nah, just get both. 
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Posted: 9/4/2005 8:46:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Superlight!
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Posted: 9/4/2005 9:02:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Gov't profile middy. Longer sight radius and more handguard to grap onto and cover that hot barrel.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 9:32:18 PM EDT
[#24]
Superlight with an A1 stock. At least that's my idea...
If I'm spending your money, I would have to go with both though. Cheers, Chris 
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Posted: 9/4/2005 9:38:23 PM EDT
[#25]
Middy! You can bayonet the looters that come in close. Seriously...midlengths are awesome. They use regular bayonets...have the rifle "look" but are still carbine length. I need one.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 10:56:34 PM EDT
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This is what I am doing this also. Midlength to facillitate bayonetting looters. Turned down to "Superlight" profile. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 3:17:13 AM EDT
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What is 'turned down'? On my build Im going kiss light, 14.5'' with phantom...which means I can bayonet the zombies baby! 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 3:19:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:40:00 AM EDT
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Two weeks ago I would have said superlight carbine. But since I got my RRA Middy upper, I have to say go with the mid gun. I noticed it seemed to shoot smoother per say than my carbine, If you have it turned down by adco it should weigh near the same as the superlight barrel since they are both 16" the middy's gas block is just something like 2" further up, and I like being able to grab out a little further on the handguards, the carbine handguards make me feel all crunched up.
This is my newest one, got to shoot it saturday and it runs great..  Not a superlite but is a carbine,  Did I mention I cut on the middy a little bit.... 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 6:20:32 AM EDT
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Maybe this will help as a point of comparisson. Here is my lightweight with an A2 upper, and then with an A1 upper. (It now wears the A1)
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Posted: 9/5/2005 7:02:35 AM EDT
[#31]
SuperLight
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:11:48 AM EDT
[#32]
what aboout ...dissy love...standard sight path... you can get the barrel turned (which i plan to do)and still keep it somewhat light...picture this gun(mine, just finished ) with an A2 upper with the rest of my gun with a turned SS barrel...JMO but that is heaven...
 BTW ...how light is light vs. superlight?...i'll weigh this today and post back...later ..chris |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 10:52:31 AM EDT
[#33]
By turned down I mean a superlight mid length. Normally middies are HBAR. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 11:39:16 AM EDT
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My KISS A1(C7 actually) Middy
 ...with Cav MK II receiver 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 11:46:54 AM EDT
[#35]
At least we all agree.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 12:09:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Get a middy from CavArms. They are LW (gov profile )under the H/G .
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:48:30 PM EDT
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Well since this has turned into a picture thread
 I don't know which way to tell you? As you can see, I already have a KISS middy but I plan to build a LW KISS carbine some day too so for me, the answer is both! What do you plan on using it for? If it's going to be a shooter, go for a Middy as they really do shoot nicer then carbines and considering this will be an iron sight only gun, having the FSB 2" forward is a nice bonus too. If on the other hand, this is something you are going to spend more time carrying around, a LW would be nice to have. I guess somebody is just going to have to come out with a skinny mid-length barrel!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:52:03 PM EDT
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But seem to be more expensive than a RRA Mid upper (even after paying to have ADCO contour it down). I looked tho... |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 4:20:48 PM EDT
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The CAV is chromelined. I don't know about the RRA though. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 6:13:12 PM EDT
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ok, update...
I ordered a Superlight A2 Upper from eaglefirearms.net w/ green furniture. I was about to order a chrome lined middy from ADCO but the dropped the chrome lined option and kept the price at $425 so I'll get a middy for my next build. Thanks for the replies and the pics guys! |
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