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Posted: 8/16/2005 5:26:02 AM EDT
Want to put a 6 position stock on my RRA M4gery. Which one would you go with & why? Is one more solid, less rattle, better finish on tube, etc..


Thanks,
HS
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 5:40:03 AM EDT
[#1]
I have a RRA stock. I’m happy with it, can’t comment on the CMT. You should be able to get a new RRA stock for a lot less than $100, more like around $60.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 5:44:39 AM EDT
[#2]
think that cmt comes on a "mil-spec" tube





what that means is it will work with the vltor, lmt etc...
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 5:45:02 AM EDT
[#3]
The CMT uses a mil spec buffer tube. If you might add a VLTOR or similar stock later this might be an issue.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 5:55:38 AM EDT
[#4]
CMT - milspec tube for when you want to upgrade to a Vltor or something else
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 5:56:56 AM EDT
[#5]
They are both okay, but as stated the RRA is not a mil-spec tube. You can get the CMT in either the new M4 style or the older CAR style. A complete kit will run you $65 - $75 dollars.

Eventually you may want to upgrade or change stocks, so the mil-spec tube is good to have.

I have three now, all CMT, and love them. ( I also have a Vltor)

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 6:47:55 AM EDT
[#6]
Another CMT vote.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 6:54:57 AM EDT
[#7]
What about CavArms?  Don't know whether they use a mil-spec tube but it's another thought.  MJD
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:01:26 AM EDT
[#8]
I have both the RRA and the CMT.  Get the CMT - as others have pointed out the CMT has the proper RECEIVER EXTENSION, so if you want to buy a VLTOR or Crane stock down the line you're good to go.

The Cav-Arms uses the commercial reciever extension, not the military one.  Cav Arms stocks (the plastic portion) will fit on a Military Spec Receiver Extension, but it will rattle.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:11:37 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
What about CavArms?  Don't know whether they use a mil-spec tube but it's another thought.  MJD



Cavarms makes stocks for most of the non-milspec OEM manufacturers.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:57:39 AM EDT
[#10]
Go with the CMT, once you see the difference between that and the RRA you'll never want an RRA type again
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:21:04 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Another CMT vote.



+1 this is an absolute no brainier IMO.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:31:34 AM EDT
[#12]
Another CMT vote. It's a mil spec tube plus I'm pretty sure they don't dowse them in Loctite.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:32:35 AM EDT
[#13]
CMT...want to upgrade to LMT? they slide right on...& fight tight as a drum
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:34:30 AM EDT
[#14]
+1 for Stag, the ext. receiver is milspec
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:39:22 AM EDT
[#15]
CMT, I would also get the Hbuffer, very nice and can be had for under $100.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:41:06 AM EDT
[#16]
Thanks for input fellows, CMT it is. Who has good deal on them right now? I need the entire kit & a wrench.


HS
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:45:03 AM EDT
[#17]
I have 3 of the RRA 6 postion stocks. I have had no trouble with any of them
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:59:49 AM EDT
[#18]
CMT

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:24:58 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I have 3 of the RRA 6 postion stocks. I have had no trouble with any of them



But have you tried, or compared them the the CMT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:42:36 AM EDT
[#20]
I love my RRA, purchased new on the EE for about $55.00 shipped.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:48:35 AM EDT
[#21]
I love my RRA, purchased new on the EE for about $55.00 shipped.

RRA 6 position M4 stock
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:53:47 AM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:56:52 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Thanks for input fellows, CMT it is. Who has good deal on them right now? I need the entire kit & a wrench.


HS



www.eaglefirearms.net


I ordered one last week. I hope to recieve it today.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:58:29 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Thanks for input fellows, CMT it is. Who has good deal on them right now? I need the entire kit & a wrench.


HS



Grant at GandRTactical (he also has a section in the Industry area and is a contibuting member).
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:05:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Thanks for the help, one more question.  Is there any benefit to the heavy buffer in a semi-auto? I noticed Eaglefirearms.net has stocks listed under Stag & Eagle parts. One is out of stock & other shows available. Descriptions are identical. I assume they are one & the same stock kit. But I've assumed before & we all know the rest of that story.

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:36:23 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Thanks for the help, one more question.  Is there any benefit to the heavy buffer in a semi-auto? I noticed Eaglefirearms.net has stocks listed under Stag & Eagle parts. One is out of stock & other shows available. Descriptions are identical. I assume they are one & the same stock kit. But I've assumed before & we all know the rest of that story.




As for which stock is which on eagle's site, I can't say.

Mine came in, but I haven't opened the package yet. I'll open it tonight.

As for the buffer.....maybe.


If your barrel is 16" or less, get the heavy buffer.

Heavy buffers basically slow things down, which is sometimes necessary in the shorter guns to get them to function properly.

You probably don't, in all honesty, NEED a heavy buffer, but it certainly won't HURT anything.



edit:


I checked the stock numbers for the 2 M4 stocks with heavy buffers, and they are the same. I can't say if the stock numbers for the standard-buffer stocks are the same or not, as the one that is out of stock doesn't have a link pointing to the item number anymore.

Also, as the stock numbers for the 2 different stocks with the heavy buffer are the same, I am unsure as to why the prices are different for them.

If I were you, I'd go ahead and spend the extra $5 for the heavy buffer.

YMMV.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:00:23 AM EDT
[#27]
Thanks arowneragain, yeah I found what you did by checking the stock #'s closer. I went ahead & ordered the H buffer. Like you said,  I figured it couldn't hurt. Also couldn't help myself & picked up a few more 30 round non teflon coated mags.  

Let me know how yours fits & feels when you get a chance.

Take care & thaks for help.
HS
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:55:52 AM EDT
[#28]
The Hbuffer is the stuff, if you like rapid firing and staying on traget it helps alot.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 12:20:50 PM EDT
[#29]
The stocks that Eagle sells are the CMT. They have an ad in the equipment exchange for them, and I got two of mine from them. They are not marked in any way.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:42:15 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
They are not marked in any way.



Agreed, below is a link that shows comparison pics of the two, slight differences are pointed out and very slight they are
Disregard the top several pics, the bottom five are the ones of interest

Colt vs. CMT stocks
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:48:54 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They are not marked in any way.



Agreed, below is a link that shows comparison pics of the two, slight differences are pointed out and very slight they are
Disregard the top several pics, the bottom five are the ones of interest

Colt vs. CMT stocks



Great pics! Appreciate them. I like the serrated lever better.

HS
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 6:05:20 AM EDT
[#32]
I installed mine wednesday night - so far, so good. It fits fine, very little rattle.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 12:13:12 PM EDT
[#33]
I just got my CMT CAR stock in today's mail.

It's a very solid, well built stock. Very tight and no rattle. I'm impressed. I love it!
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 1:23:38 PM EDT
[#34]
My next stock will be a Stag.

I want to interchange it with my LMT M4 and two Vltor stocks.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 4:41:50 AM EDT
[#35]
Got mine yesterday & put it on last night. Looks good, & very little rattle. I noticed mine does not have the serrated lever? Guess they changed that. Stock is not marked anywhere.

Take care,
HS
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