Why don't others use direct gas?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Why don't others use direct gas?

Posted: 3/16/2005 6:42:35 PM EDT

Not to start a flame war by any means, but have any rifles since the M-16 that weren't copying the M-16 used a direct gas system? I don't recall any other militaries using direct gas powered rifles.

Posted: 3/16/2005 6:49:30 PM EDT

[#1]

The French first started playing with it in 1900 and it was a staple of MAS autoloading rifle designs from 1926 onwards. But no........it is not something other designers copy from the M16 series..........

Posted: 3/16/2005 6:51:54 PM EDT

[#2]

Maybe because they don't want a rifle that functionally "Sh*ts where it eats"

I don't really know. Maybe the M16/AR15 design is too expensive to produce in third world countries.

NOTICE ALL THE MAYBE'S.......I don't know.

WIZZO

Posted: 3/16/2005 6:56:48 PM EDT

[#3]

IMO the advantages do not outweigh the disadvantages.

Posted: 3/16/2005 7:21:23 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I don't recall any other militaries using direct gas powered rifles.

Lot of militaries do - they bought M16s

Posted: 3/16/2005 9:01:18 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Not to start a flame war by any means, but have any rifles since the M-16 that weren't copying the M-16 used a direct gas system? I don't recall any other militaries using direct gas powered rifles.

Direct gas sucks. Fouling makes the weapon harder to clean and less reliable. This is why you dont see the direct gas system copied much, if at all.

The AR15 just happens to get enough right to outweigh the negatives of direct gas...mostly

Posted: 3/17/2005 12:53:26 AM EDT

[#6]

They dont use dellayed roller locker systems in non HK weapons either but that does not make it a bad system.

Direct gas mean precision engineering is required and CLEAN burning ammo is required. This is not available in many parts of the world.

Posted: 3/17/2005 1:19:23 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
They dont use dellayed roller locker systems in non HK weapons either but that does not make it a bad system.

Direct gas mean precision engineering is required and CLEAN burning ammo is required. This is not available in many parts of the world.

well said.

IBTL

3 pages.

Posted: 3/17/2005 1:24:44 AM EDT

[#8]

they are not as smart as Eugene Stoner

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Why don't others use direct gas?

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