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Posted: 12/26/2004 11:42:08 AM EDT
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I do not own one yet, but my best friend bought one when the DPMS .308 first came out. He has the 24" LR target model and put on a Leupold 6.5-20X40mm scope. The gun shoots very well, as good as my other friends Armalite AR-10.
The 24" LR is really heavy, it is more of a bench rifle/ target rifle then a hunting rifle. The new DPMS 16" and 18" carbine are really nice and can be used for hunting. The mags for the DPMS are the same for a SR25. And for a long time they were very expensive but now a 20 round mag is $59 instead of $125. I think DPMS .308 is a well made rifle. The Armalite is nice too but for the price of a Armalite a guy can get a DPMS and a good scope. I think I would get the 18" over the 24" because I would want to use the DPMS .308 for deer hunting. |
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Posted: 12/26/2004 12:10:45 PM EDT
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HUH? This is from their website.
Upper Receiver: • Thick walled, extruded from 6066-T6 aluminum • Hard coat anodized per Mil Spec and Teflon coated black • Snag free design, smooth side look • No dust cover • No shell deflector • No forward assist • Right hand ejection • Raised Picatinny rail for easy scope mounting Lower Receiver: • Milled from a solid billet of 6061-T6 aluminum • Hard coat anodized per Mil Spec and Teflon coated black • Standard A-15 trigger group • Integral trigger guard • Magazine release button I own 1 in 18" and it is awesome. |
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Posted: 12/26/2004 12:13:42 PM EDT
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I just wrapped up a fairly extensive piece on the DPMS LR-308 for the February Issue of Small Arms Review Magazine. It is being mailed to readers as you read this.
In summary, I found it to be an excellent rifle, especially when topped with a nice piece of glass. If you can get hold of that issue of SAR it may be quite helpful. Merry Christmas All. Jeff W. Zimba Production Manager Small Arms Review Magazine 
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Posted: 12/26/2004 12:17:09 PM EDT
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What? Do you have any idea what cast vs. forged means? Armalite uses forged upper and lower receivers. Period. |
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Posted: 12/26/2004 12:27:39 PM EDT
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yep. I've got some experiene with the DPMS. Had a 24", too heavy to do anything with. Love my 16", and it's almost as accurate as the 24" was. (shown with my wife's M4gery)
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Posted: 12/26/2004 1:25:42 PM EDT
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Uh, do you know anything about the DPMS line. There isnt a cast model among them. DPMS is less expensive because they make much of their own parts and dont contract out. Same deal with Olympic. When you dont help someone make a profit it translates to savings for your customers. |
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Posted: 12/26/2004 2:44:46 PM EDT
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+1
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Posted: 12/27/2004 12:14:48 AM EDT
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I can absolutely confirm that Armalite's AR10 receivers, both upper and lower, are machined from forgings. Armalite owns these forging dies. They are the only company that makes a .308 AR using forged receivers. Armalite's ad copy was specifically referring to the KAC SR-25, which uses an extrusion for their upper.
-Troy |
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Posted: 12/27/2004 6:10:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/27/2004 6:16:41 AM EDT
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Let's see FUZ......that makes you 0 for 2 doesn't it ??
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Posted: 12/27/2004 7:19:14 AM EDT
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Of all the things that a Bushmaster troll could rail on ArmaLite about and you choose the one that nearly EVERYONE knows as fact? Whether or not ArmaLite uses forged receivers?  That's retarded. |
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Posted: 12/27/2004 7:59:48 AM EDT
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fuz1on, why don't you give Troy your lesson on the ills of chrome lined barrels are while he's on the board. Bet he'll be impressed !! (Maybe just link to your previous discussion that other topic ??) 5sub |
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Posted: 12/27/2004 3:53:24 PM EDT
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Because you are a  ? I have been to the factory. I have seen the forgings in the raw and in the finished states.
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Posted: 12/27/2004 4:02:39 PM EDT
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0 and 3:  http://www.armalite.com/library/advertisements/ifItsNotAnArmalite.pdf ArmaLite Quality Is In The Details! Backed by the best warranty in the market. ArmaLite M15 and AR-10 series rifles come complete with a limited lifetime warranty. Faithful rendering of the latest government designs. Our commercial versions of the M4 Carbine, M16A2, and M16A4 are now in production using components as close to the original as possible. No non-standard pins, useless blocks or cosmetic blemishes are added to our rifles. Our rifles look more like standard models and that means repairs and parts are easier to get. Fully forged receivers. No cheap castings (which you can recognize by their protruding letters) with their inclusions and casting flaws are used for either the upper or lower receivers. We use aircraft grade aluminum for toughness, and hard anodize it for long life. Constant improvement. At ArmaLite we're constantly improving our products. The rifle you buy today is even better than the excellent rifles we sold a year ago. Every component, down to individual pins and springs, has been reviewed and improved. Focus. ArmaLite focuses on rifles. That's why only the highest quality ArmaLite patent rifles and accessories are available from us. Our competitors will sell you some unusual items for just about anything that shoots, but they don't begin to provide the attention to the basics that ArmaLite does. Two Calibers. ArmaLites new AR-10B family returns .308 caliber to production at a price you can afford, and at unparalleled quality. No other manufacturer offers a choice of ArmaLite patent rifles in both .223 and .308 calibers! National Match Sights. Only ArmaLite offers true National Match sights on a factory built rifle, and only ArmaLite's sights offer easy to use 1/4 minute clicks in windage and 1/2 minute clicks in elevation. Nobody else offers an easy to use two piece elevation knob with an adjustable elevation scale marked in clicks. Our sights even include the small diameter apertures proven effective by the Army Marksmanship Unit. National Match Two Stage Trigger. Now you can have as fine a trigger as ever found on an M1! The ArmaLite National Match trigger is not a casting but a fully machined assembly, easily installed and tuned. National Match Barrel Sleeve. Our barrel sleeve allows a free floating barrel which meets all requirements governing the National Matches ... another ArmaLite Exclusive! The Best Barrel Selection On The Market. ArmaLite offers barrels made of stainless steel, 4140 chrome moly, or Mil spec chrome lined. Our chrome lined Mil Spec barrels are made of tough chrome-moly-vanadium barrel steel and are rifled at 1 turn in 9 inches ... far superior to the 1 turn in 7 inch twist government barrel. Recoil Control. ArmaLite's proprietary recoil check offers better recoil control than any competing manufacturer ... and eliminates their goofy bare muzzle look! More Models Than Any Other Producer. Together, ArmaLite and our Eagle Arms division offer a complete selection of models for the entire range of sanctioned target shooting events as well as hunting and service rifles. |
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Posted: 12/27/2004 4:08:58 PM EDT
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I have a panther classic witha 20" heavy barrel that is forged upper and lower. It is also very accurate and trouble free. I would not buy their 308 over the bushmaster due to the fact that the bushmaster uses cheaper magazines and when you look at buying 10 magazines at $59 apiece compared to the $20 or so that the fn mags costs that adds up quick.
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Posted: 12/27/2004 5:17:52 PM EDT
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We're talking about .308 ARs here, not .223 ARs. We already know that DPMS uses forged receivers on their .223 rifles, just as we also know that their .308s are made with milled lowers and extruded uppers. -Troy |
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Posted: 12/27/2004 5:23:04 PM EDT
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Yes, my bad. When I talked to BM about their .308 (about 9 months before it was released), they were talking about using an extrusion for the upper, and I didn't bother to re-verify that before I posted. Mea Culpa.  Armalite and Bushmaster are the only two companies using forged receivers for their .308 ARs.  -Troy |
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Posted: 12/27/2004 5:37:56 PM EDT
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Nobody has to prove anything being different from what YOU claim. Please,do not make statements that you do not document .Like saying "they look bulky to me",since that is not proof that they are NOT machined from forgings. ArmaLite states they are,so unless you can provide evidence that they are NOT,please refrain from making such comments. |
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Posted: 12/27/2004 8:11:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2005 11:11:14 AM EDT
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Red highlight is total bullshit, Bushmaster BAR10 uses uppers and lowers forged from 7075 T6 aluminum. LRT |
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Posted: 1/9/2005 11:13:09 AM EDT
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Troy lied about Armalite being the only forged upper and lower, not true at all so do not go breaking your arm slapping yourself on the back. 
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Posted: 1/9/2005 11:24:00 AM EDT
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Hate to say Ed but Troy is pushing BS here and the others are following him down the drain, I am a certified armorer for Armalite and Bushmaster as well as Colt and FN. Troy stated that Armalite is the only one that has forged .308 uppers and lowers, that is Statement. Why not some of the so called experts document it before absolutely confirming this. Quoted: I can absolutely confirm that Armalite's AR10 receivers, both upper and lower, are machined from forgings. Armalite owns these forging dies. They are the only company that makes a .308 AR using forged receivers. Armalite's ad copy was specifically referring to the KAC SR-25, which uses an extrusion for their upper. I care not for one or another since 99% of all my weapons besides the Colts are hybrid weapons, for what you have no clue about hybrid weapons it is comprised of various parts that I know function in perfection. I dare not claim myself as an expert, but I know a few that are not.  |
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Posted: 1/9/2005 11:41:53 AM EDT
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He retracted and clarified....however I wouldn't align myself too closely with the other side of the two arguers as he stated that Bushmaster was the only one to use forged receivers, which is commonly and EASILY known to be an error. Anybody with even two brain cells knows that all Armalite and Eagle Arms receivers are FORGED, right? |
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Posted: 1/9/2005 12:24:53 PM EDT
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I know what you're saying Ed but you know me as in person and also know that I love all forms of weapons, I would never take sides with anyone but do detest when people swear they know it to be fact and it is not even close. I could also care less on who wins any pissing contest like this, but I am incorrect often but never would swear about being correct unless hard factual evidence was provided by a 3rd party. I do even have faith in what the manufacturer’s state half the time until it is proven beyond factual evidence. As far as I know of my 2 builds on Eagle lowers and uppers are forged and show no obvious castings as an essential arms casting would, never have seen a cast Armalite so it would be safe to say that I have never known that a cast Armalite exist. Anyone have a GM lower on an A1? |
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Posted: 1/9/2005 12:28:55 PM EDT
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You really don't know what your talking about do you Willis?
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