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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:27:05 AM EDT
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Thats ounds like you are looking for 1/2 to 3/4 moa. Your gun should be capable of that with some excellent ammo, a nice trigger, good scope with quality mounts and a free floating barrel.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 9:07:30 AM EDT
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5/8" 5 shots 200yrds
Eagle Arms- Action Master, 4-16x40 Tasco Mag IV, 20" heavy barrel 1-9 twist . Hornaday 52 gr A-max, (Powder WW-748 I think?) 
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Posted: 10/3/2004 9:31:41 AM EDT
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3/4" is the best I can muster up
Colt CAR6724 with a Leupold 8.5-25x50mm Long Range Target from the bench with a sandbag Hornady 55gr V-Max |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 9:54:25 AM EDT
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26" flat top useing 40gr Vmax 3 shots = less then 1/2"
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Posted: 10/3/2004 10:13:48 AM EDT
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Personal semi-auto record is 5 shots INSIDE 1.25 inches @ 200 yards using Win 45 jhps and a 15X Weaver. The Med. Wt. barrel marked "C MP 5.56 NATO 1/12" is NOT EVEN FREE FLOATED!
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Posted: 10/3/2004 10:43:50 AM EDT
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NEW GUY
I've got a 2-stage jewell, free floated barrel and a nikon monarch 5.5-16.5 scope a competition-type benchrest as well as a forend adapter that only allows rearward movement. I've adjusted just about every bullet, powder, primer and brass available. Thats what lead me to believe that perhaps my barrel/upper is not up to the job. Should I invest in a better upper than my Model 1? I can't really afford a $1000+ custom upper. Kind of thinking of a Fulton Armory predator/varmit upper? any experience or other recomendations? Thanks again for all the help! |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 10:49:30 AM EDT
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ADDENDUM,
Who makes an upper that guarantees 1 MOA for reasonable ($500-700) |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:03:59 AM EDT
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My best personal shooting at 200 yards was during a reduced course CMP match. During the rapid prone stage, 7 rounds made a 1" group at 12 o'clock in 10 ring. The other three made a 1" group above that in the nine ring.
I've never been able to duplicate that for a 10 shot string.  RIFLE: Colt Sporter with CMP modifications done by Olympic's Custom Shop RRA float tube. Bob Jones Rear Sight Armalite Front Post Trigger Job on Stock Parts LOAD: Sierra 69gr SMK 25gr W748 New LC Brass (from CMP) |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:25:18 AM EDT
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It sounds like everything is there. $500 for a rebarrel and you should be there.
mark |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:37:48 AM EDT
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My personal best is 7/8 inch 5 shot group out of a stock 20 inch colt. It took me several days of playing with reloads to find the one it liked, but it was worth it!
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:40:22 AM EDT
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200 meters
5.5" 10 shots Black Hills 77gr SMK (remanned) Bushy 20" Gov't chrome-lined barrel Stock trigger TA31 ACOG DoD Prone position No artificial support |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 12:09:11 PM EDT
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Your 'match' rifle should do about 1MOA at 200yds from a sitting position with irons & proper sling use, if you're that good... Ammo makes a big difference, HEAVIER IS BETTER.... My personal best is a 91, 200 sitting, with an Oly Arms 20" HBAR (no mods)... 1st 5 were 2Xs and 3 10s (which makes for around a 5-6" group), lost the 9 points on the last 5... |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 12:33:47 PM EDT
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RRA Varmint, 3 shots at a 3" dot:
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Posted: 10/3/2004 4:07:20 PM EDT
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Personal best 200-yard? 100-5X from sitting at a Highpower match. It was the X-ring and south. Figure roughly 5-6" from position.
Rifle: Box-Stock Armalite National Match model AR-15 Load: LC cases, mixed; CCI-400 primer; 77gr Nosler J4; 24.5gr H-Varget; seated to 2.25" and go. Quite frankly, with 1-1.5" groups at 200, I'd be quite happy and more worried about practicing, but that is just me. (And the attitude that has taken me to Master-class Highpower shooter in my first year. Next year the goal is to produce scores in the 96-97% range and start chasing distinguished points.) |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:41:35 AM EDT
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are you talking off hand or bench ??
my offhand shooting group is about 14" @ 200 Y..., bench, about 4"-6", which i consider good enough to kill my enemies !! 
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:09:15 AM EDT
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As noted by others.........., your getting sub-MOA groups (as MOA at 200 Yards is 2") and if ya get 1" groups your getting 1/2 MOA. I'm wondering like others why your claiming this ain't no good, seems pretty decent to me. FWIW my 24" CR6724 w/ Leupy 4.5x14x40 Tactical mil-dot scope bench'd, fed custom 77grn. SMKs shoots 3/4" to 1" 5 and 10 shot groups on average at 200 yards IF I do my part. Mike |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:25:36 AM EDT
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No offense - but buying from one of the lower end vendors and expecting super performance is a bit much. Spend a few bucks and get a Oly SUM barrel - probably the best bang for the buck if you don't want to get a high end barrel. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:27:29 AM EDT
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.22" one shot group
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Posted: 10/4/2004 7:36:50 AM EDT
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Yep, mine will do that ALL week long, and with ANY type of ammo!!! Its also just a carbine with IRON SIGHTS, not a NM!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 7:52:27 AM EDT
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.785" 5 shots from 200m off the elbows and bipod.
Olympic SUM, 20" 1-10 40gr Vmax moly 26.5gr H335 CCI mag primer LC 84 brass 2.260" COL she shoots better than I can 
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Posted: 10/4/2004 7:54:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/4/2004 8:51:08 AM EDT
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I don't know about how well it would shoot from a bench with a scope, because I never shoot that way.
But I can shoot the shit out of a 200 yard NRA highpower target's 1.5 MOA X ring all day long, from a sling supported sitting position, wearing a shooting coat and glove, using my NM RRA. Now that's slow fire, mind you. No scope, just NM iron sights. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:11:03 AM EDT
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JP CTR-02, 20" 1:8
Black Hills 75gr Five shots 0.57" C2C at 220 yards, or about quarter MOA. -z |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:12:20 AM EDT
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Have you tried any factory match ammo? If so and you still arent grouping as well as you like, Forest gave a great suggestion. Oly SUM barrels are known to be excellent barrels for the price. As big as they are, Mod 1 is kind of entry level quality.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 10:00:28 AM EDT
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And at any range no less!! 
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