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Posted: 9/22/2004 1:26:35 PM EDT
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I'm stayin out of this one!
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Posted: 9/22/2004 1:27:30 PM EDT
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Friends don't let friends by Hesse. (aka Vulcan)
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Posted: 9/22/2004 1:27:56 PM EDT
[#3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:01:35 PM EDT
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I've heard that sooper dooper special forces the world over use VULCAN firearms.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:34:36 PM EDT
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That's what the ex SF/SEAL/Force Recon guy selling jerky at the gun show said, right? |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:46:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:56:17 PM EDT
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How ironic that you asked if they where Hesse by another name .
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:56:26 PM EDT
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Vulcan=Hesse, and Jokin' is known for charging your CC and never delivering what you purchased (or if they do deliver, it is weeks, maybe months later).
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Posted: 9/22/2004 3:08:00 PM EDT
[#9]
Run away.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 3:19:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Vulcan/Hesse/Joeken...are all bad words in this forum..Do not speak it again...
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Posted: 9/22/2004 9:08:43 PM EDT
[#11]
Iguess the jury ihas made its verdict. All the feedback is greatly appreciated.
thanks again, Matt |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 9:52:54 PM EDT
[#12]
I just ordered 3 lowers from Joeken... Wish I would have done my homework!
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Posted: 9/22/2004 11:30:57 PM EDT
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Oh yeah forgot might I ask the nature of the problems other than the maker and not to be renamed supplier?
For refernce, Matt |
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Posted: 9/23/2004 3:09:23 AM EDT
[#15]
Vulcan=Hesse=POS
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Posted: 9/23/2004 3:45:56 AM EDT
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 just kidding...if you do a search on Hesse or Vulcan...POS will be the phrase of the day. Stay far, far away. |
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Posted: 9/23/2004 4:05:06 AM EDT
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hesse, unsafe at any speed.
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Posted: 9/23/2004 7:41:11 AM EDT
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Vulcan Arms, surely you must be Joeken.... (sorry for the pun  )OK, I guess I'll have to bring it out again.... 
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Posted: 9/23/2004 8:10:36 AM EDT
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Hahahahaha!  I am using a Vulcan carbon fiber upper for a build, it is fine. I wouldnt buy anything else from them though. Actually I got the upper reciever from a member.
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Posted: 9/23/2004 8:22:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2004 8:24:39 AM EDT
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Run! He mentioned the V word!
He's jinxed us all! - BG |
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Posted: 9/23/2004 8:56:41 AM EDT
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Maybe with a crude implement like an AK the manufaturers efforts to make a pretty, well made weapon are largley useless, but an M-16 or one of its variants is made to much closer tolerances and is farther from soldier proof. (idiot proof) Put simply I do not have the same standards for an AK as I would for an AR but appearence matters little to me what I am interested soley in do the AR's or M-16's function reliably and perform at the least comparably to other makes?
Thanks, Matt |
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Posted: 9/23/2004 9:06:14 AM EDT
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I didn't order 3 "Hesse" or "Vulcan" lowers. I ordered 3 Grizzly lowers from Joeken. Sorry for any confusion. I was more referring to Joeken's customer service reputation which sounds less than stellar to put it mildly. I do know Grizzly lower's are decent lowers. I just wish I had done my homework on Joeken.
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Posted: 9/23/2004 9:05:28 PM EDT
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let us know how it turns out |
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Posted: 9/24/2004 9:34:34 AM EDT
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Well here's the latest news. My FFL contacted them yesterday and they told him they are completely outm of stock. They told him that they would contact him as soon as they got them back in. This has been two weeks now.
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Posted: 9/24/2004 11:46:03 AM EDT
[#28]
 Guess which one is Joken' and which one is you. In the future, there are a few rules you should live by for all things "AR15" 1) Do a "search" on your topic of interest. 2) ONLY buy from a member dealer on this forum (or from a local dealer.) 3) Repeat steps 1 and 2 any time you want to buy something for an AR15. 
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Posted: 9/24/2004 12:42:18 PM EDT
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That's what they claimed themselves... they ran some ads about "VULCAN... The guns of the special forces!" or something
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Posted: 9/24/2004 10:23:09 PM EDT
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Special Forces gets their pick of the best of best no expense spared often getting their own individual choice of weapons. HK's Sig's handmade 1911's I doubt very seriously you would not find an operator carrying a P.O.S. like a Hesse vulcan whatever the hell they're calling it now. Any real operator knows his weapons at a level most of us never will. His skills and weapons are what keep him alive, you do not trust your life to A P.O.S. the weapons they carry are known for reliability and durability. I think that explains it sufficiently.
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Posted: 9/25/2004 4:56:02 AM EDT
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Spartan24,
I've built many AR15's using the LAR Grizzly lowers. I've never had a problem with them. I think they look and work great! I happen to live a few miles from LAR's machine shop and always pick them up directly from them. My first trip there, I happened to notice the Bushmaster logo on letter head. I inquired about this and the manager of the facility mentioned that they made the lowers for Bushmaster for 10+ years. They send them out fully machined and Bushmaster has the finish applied in another shop. I confirmed this(that they are the supplier for Bushmaster) by reading that document with the Bushmaster logo/name. Apparently they make the lowers for many other well named builders. Needless to say, build with confidence. I've had great success with these. I think the finish is very nice and durable. |
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Posted: 9/25/2004 6:00:26 AM EDT
[#32]
LAR makes good products, not doubt about that.
But I have not heard anything good about Joeken, only bad. I hope they did not charge you for those out of stock receivers. |
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Posted: 9/25/2004 7:06:08 AM EDT
[#33]
VULCAN=HESSE=SHIT! Any questions?
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